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megahobbit wrote:

Its important to note that these people really don't represent all African Americans and all people angry about Micheal Browns death who are peacefully protesting.

This should be obvious to everyone but Ive seen alot of stupidity and racism thrown around on the internet recently.



You get older and you realize saying stuff like "it aint all of us" doesn't matter.
If someone wants to be closeminded or ignorant not a damn thing you say is
going to make a difference to them. No one needs to be apologizing for other
people, even more so for whole groups of others. Own your own actions and
let them speak for themselves. People that think logically will understand and
need no words to come to that understanding.

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This is why I like retributivist punishment.
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This is why I've been taking martial arts all my life (plus time in the Infantry). I would have crushed red shirts skull like a grape, and had no regret. I'm too old to get hurt by a bunch of punks, I have to come home to my family. After the fact, no one would be able to say shit, because it would have been black on black violence. My black ass taking down 3 untrained dirt bags.
what really gets me is that no one defended the guy, all sat down there watching the whole thing unfold like they were mere spectators.not even a 911 call for assistance



It's a hard one, one of my friends was at work when he saw a big guy jumping up and down next to a gas station pump next to where he worked. The station was closed and he wondered what the hell this huge guy was doing. He saw a hand come up over the curb of the gas pump from the ground when he realized someone was getting stomped on. He ran out and chased the guy down, jumped on his back and hammered the guy in the head. Someone else saw the chase and called the police. The guy with the crushed skull next to the gas pump survived but can barely talk. If it wasn't for Jeff, he would have died. Gotta love Jeff.


Glad your friend took the risk and did what he could to help. Alot of
people out there don't want to get involved in other peoples problems.
If you go all SS on someone go easy you might be a dealy weapon xD
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This man got beat up for no good reason.

The attackers were using a flimsy premise to justify their attack, that's a logical assessment.

This is news because the Michael Brown situation is still relevant and divisive, not because random acts of violence are uncommon.

The suspects deserve to go to trial, clearly the victim had nothing to do with the Michael Brown incident that he received the beating for, other than his being white and on the wrong train at the wrong time. St. Louis is in a truly sad state, and has been for a long time.

At the same time, he didn't wind up dead or robbed or raped, he got off pretty light compared to a majority of the cases of racial discrimination in Missouri history.

Seemed like a light peppering of punches more than an intent to injure. The attacker had two friends ready to go, the victim made the right decision to keep his hands up and wait for it to end. Still, I wouldn't blame him if he had fought back and got it worse.
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i watched the video half way, I agree that it sucks no one helped him. On the other hand, you have to be responsible enough to be able to defend yourself. I guess I had it slightly rough growing up, so I was always prepared.

I won't even talk about the race thing
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i watched the video half way, I agree that it sucks no one helped him. On the other hand, you have to be responsible enough to be able to defend yourself. I guess I had it slightly rough growing up, so I was always prepared.

I won't even talk about the race thing


I think he did a fine job defending himself. It's not always about doing damage back, especially when the fight is over nothing.
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Yea i agree you don't have to retaliate but you can probably dodge or restrain people. Even though they had numbers, in my experience if you look/act competent enough people will be less likely to attack even in numbers. Though nowadays the safest option is to just run entirely, you might get shot or stabbed. I guess I should have clarified.
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Yet, if it had been a white person who had attacked the black man, the media would be screaming about this and all the blacks would be busy protesting.

Gotta love the one-sided aspect of today's media folks!

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Yea i agree you don't have to retaliate but you can probably dodge or restrain people. Even though they had numbers, in my experience if you look/act competent enough people will be less likely to attack even in numbers. Though nowadays the safest option is to just run entirely, you might get shot or stabbed. I guess I should have clarified.


In a lot of situations, yes. But he was pinned in that seat and it was on a train. Three on one, plus, look at the guy, it wasn't a good match-up. But he covered up like a pro, and in the end, he didn't have any real bruises, his glasses cut his nose, the attacker threw a dozen fast punches and took off.

This wasn't a person being brutalized, it was a short surprise assault. Frustrated youth acting out against marginalization. The only way the victim could have fought back would be with a weapon, but it was so short that he would have had to have chased the attackers down to use that weapon. Even pepper spray would have been tough to use in that situation.

I don't know if you followed the case very closely, but if Darren Wilson had just put his hands up, those rosy cheeks he showed everybody after being brutalized by a monstrous thug would have been enough to put Michael Brown behind bars. Instead, he thought defending himself involved pulling a gun at the first sign of trouble, and then following that trouble as it escaped.
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Yet, if it had been a white person who had attacked the black man, the media would be screaming about this and all the blacks would be busy protesting.

Gotta love the one-sided aspect of today's media folks!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URWzlADbdGM

Here's a media-free version of the video. Guy in red is clearly drunk, the first punch was a sucker-punch, as the victim claimed, the rest is half-hearted and the victim's only complaint was nobody was helping him.

There's still only one side to this story, you can't blame the media for everything.
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I would have said Mike Brown deserved what he got for being a criminal and then shot up these thugs for trying to attack me. Send these "Innocent angels" to hell where they belong.


To be honest I totally agree with you.
There mouths and megaphones scream, "Body Murder!" about cops who kill black men, yet they yell "more cops, government aid, and social programs." in there communities. The media only makes it worse by not telling the whole truth.
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To be honest I totally agree with you.
There mouths and megaphones scream, "Body Murder!" about cops who kill black men, yet they yell "more cops, government aid, and social programs." in there communities. The media only makes it worse by not telling the whole truth.


So you claim the media isn't telling the whole truth, but you somehow also know what's going on in these communities and what they're shouting for?

My brain is breaking, please, can I get a source?

The Department of Justice report seems like a pretty reliable place to start if you ask me. Whatever they're shouting for might just have something to do with police practices and institutional abuse ruining the economy and making it more necessary for things like government aid and social programs, but I suppose if the media picks up on that it's only a half truth and not worth any consideration.
Posted 3/29/15

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URWzlADbdGM

Here's a media-free version of the video. Guy in red is clearly drunk, the first punch was a sucker-punch, as the victim claimed, the rest is half-hearted and the victim's only complaint was nobody was helping him.

There's still only one side to this story, you can't blame the media for everything.


Like I said, reverse the races and no matter what, there would have been a sheeeetstorm from both the media and blacks. Seen that too often as of late.
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Audien wrote:

To be honest I totally agree with you.
There mouths and megaphones scream, "Body Murder!" about cops who kill black men, yet they yell "more cops, government aid, and social programs." in there communities. The media only makes it worse by not telling the whole truth.


So you claim the media isn't telling the whole truth, but you somehow also know what's going on in these communities and what they're shouting for?

My brain is breaking, please, can I get a source?

The Department of Justice report seems like a pretty reliable place to start if you ask me. Whatever they're shouting for might just have something to do with police practices and institutional abuse ruining the economy and making it more necessary for things like government aid and social programs, but I suppose if the media picks up on that it's only a half truth and not worth any consideration.


To be honest no, not really. Sometimes you must go off the beaten path to find the real story or the one that is most creditable. Talk to police officers or community leaders, i.e. pastors, youth group organizations, or local businesses owners.
I know what they shout for because I talk to the people in those situations trying to figures what really happen.
Look at FOX news or RT (just to name a few) they don't put the whole news. RT news didn't say much about Ukraine during the whole chrimea thing. FOX news, well don't get me started, they contradicted themselves for a while now. Sure not ALL media is like this but still.

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teallerina wrote:


morechunch wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URWzlADbdGM

Here's a media-free version of the video. Guy in red is clearly drunk, the first punch was a sucker-punch, as the victim claimed, the rest is half-hearted and the victim's only complaint was nobody was helping him.

There's still only one side to this story, you can't blame the media for everything.


Like I said, reverse the races and no matter what, there would have been a sheeeetstorm from both the media and blacks. Seen that too often as of late.


Or it would have been another day in Missouri.

The problem is when it's the boys in blue, not when it's a random act of violence.

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