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GayAsianBoy wrote:

Anime is adapted from manga, manga is made for teens and younger...

Believe it or not... In japan, they will look at you funny if ure an adult and still reading manga.

It's why the characters are mainly teens and the setting in high school..



There are some manga for adults but you're right.
Posted 3/30/15
Because school is life and high school girls arreeeeeee hhhhaaawwwttttty tamales.
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valleyboy3 wrote:

Maybe, im actually pretty sure, people already asked and answered this question but I'll ask it again.

Why is there so many "school" anime out there, and why, more like how, did it became a trend in the

industry. Im just curious, because sometimes it feels like theres only

teenage/kids/little boys/little girls/young men students/youg women students/WTF

in anime. It not NECESSARILY a bad thing, it just feel REALLY wierd.

So guys, any thoughs or answers lmao, I don't even know anymore :()


Two words: Target Audience.

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qualeshia3 wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

Anime is adapted from manga, manga is made for teens and younger...

Believe it or not... In japan, they will look at you funny if ure an adult and still reading manga.

It's why the characters are mainly teens and the setting in high school..



There are some manga for adults but you're right.



So what do you count as an adult? 30+? And is it the same with anime?
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dacan13 wrote:
So what do you count as an adult? 30+? And is it the same with anime?

seinen and josei are the "adult" demographics. the age range is 18 - 35
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aidenraine wrote:


dacan13 wrote:
So what do you count as an adult? 30+? And is it the same with anime?

seinen and josei are the "adult" demographics. the age range is 18 - 35


Yeah, I was thinking of those two when I read their posts. And since there are manga for adults, I thought it really wasn't a big deal to pick up the latest volume of the manga you're reading.
Posted 3/30/15
I understand that the target audience is the main reason why most animes have children as super heroes (Naruto, hunterxhunter, EVA ) because in that way, the audience can feel more related to the characters, that's why shoujo is targeted to young girls and shounen to young boys.

But as an adult, I'm tired of that kind of anime. An adult for me is 18+ and I would like to see anime with COLLEGE settings, not high school. NANA is a great example of an anime with young adults, that's why I liked it a lot and wish to see more anime like it (the main characters were 16 to 30).

Another good mature anime is Berserk or Monster, I wish to see more like them. CR is full of high school/magical girl animes, sadly.
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Zoltor


You missed a major point, "the more episodes you can reuse the same backgrounds, the faster, and cheaper it is to make"

Actually you missed two points "such a basic setting, limits story complexabilty a great deal, which makes it a hell of a lot easier to tell what story there is, without needing to put all that much effort into it"

Otherwise yea I agree..



Need to work on your delivery here.
Instead of typing: 'you missed major points' (as if I'm slow for not including them) simply type: "In addition to your points, I would consider <insert considerations here>'.

That way you can add on the basic information I provided and also add your own without the unintended insinuation of superiority.

I think its unintended because some of my friends are Nerds (capital N) and they sure deliver information in the same manner. Someone else might simply walk away at the implied slight without reading your thorough analysis. And let me say, good analysis. I'm sure we can find more points to add if we continue to brainstorm.

Also, you said "Otherwise, yeah I agree..."
Actually you DO agree with me in all my points. You simply added some of your own. See? We're on the same side of this discussion, BUT your wording creates contention and superiority where it doesn't exist. Again, delivery..

Now, I prostrate myself in the most submissive manner if I offend you in any way by my observation.

You didn't solicit it and I'm a stranger. Thus, it can be seen as presumptuous and condescending of me to address you in this manner. My humble apologies and I hope you don't hate me for it.

Let's be friends?


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its often the easiest and safest setting to use.

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(Nearly) everyone's been to high school, so that provides the (most recent) lowest common denominator for audience recognition and empathy, for as broad an audience as possible.
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Ssomething wrote:

I understand that the target audience is the main reason why most animes have children as super heroes (Naruto, hunterxhunter, EVA ) because in that way, the audience can feel more related to the characters, that's why shoujo is targeted to young girls and shounen to young boys.

But as an adult, I'm tired of that kind of anime. An adult for me is 18+ and I would like to see anime with COLLEGE settings, not high school. NANA is a great example of an anime with young adults, that's why I liked it a lot and wish to see more anime like it (the main characters were 16 to 30).

Another good mature anime is Berserk or Monster, I wish to see more like them. CR is full of high school/magical girl animes, sadly.


The problem is that anime that has characters in that age range does not sell (both disks and other merchandise) does not sell as well as those set in middle and high school. Some examples of college age range anime that I recommend:
Ah My Goddess
Love Hina
Ai Yori Yoshi
Genshiken
Golden Time
Servant x Service
Macross Plus
Black Lagoon
(There are more out there)

The thing is, when the target audience shifts to those that appreciate an older cast, I think they are more likely to do a live action version of the show in Japan.
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Santera wrote:


Zoltor


You missed a major point, "the more episodes you can reuse the same backgrounds, the faster, and cheaper it is to make"

Actually you missed two points "such a basic setting, limits story complexabilty a great deal, which makes it a hell of a lot easier to tell what story there is, without needing to put all that much effort into it"

Otherwise yea I agree..



Need to work on your delivery here.
Instead of typing: 'you missed major points' (as if I'm slow for not including them) simply type: "In addition to your points, I would consider <insert considerations here>'.

That way you can add on the basic information I provided and also add your own without the unintended insinuation of superiority.

I think its unintended because some of my friends are Nerds (capital N) and they sure deliver information in the same manner. Someone else might simply walk away at the implied slight without reading your thorough analysis. And let me say, good analysis. I'm sure we can find more points to add if we continue to brainstorm.

Also, you said "Otherwise, yeah I agree..."
Actually you DO agree with me in all my points. You simply added some of your own. See? We're on the same side of this discussion, BUT your wording creates contention and superiority where it doesn't exist. Again, delivery..

Now, I prostrate myself in the most submissive manner if I offend you in any way by my observation.

You didn't solicit it and I'm a stranger. Thus, it can be seen as presumptuous and condescending of me to address you in this manner. My humble apologies and I hope you don't hate me for it.

Let's be friends?


Santera



Yea I know, I don't know why I started off like that, I generally do start such a reply, with "in addition to". I guess it was a weird miss-step that happened, because I was posting on multiple forums, as well as writing a review on a awesome anime,

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

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Zoltor

Yea I know, I don't know why I started off like that, I generally do start such a reply, with "in addition to". I guess it was a weird miss-step that happened, because I was posting on multiple forums, as well as writing a review on a awesome anime,

Sorry for the misunderstanding.





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mnmike wrote:

This is just speculation on my part, but I also don't wonder if the first two years in high school don't hold a similar place in Japanese culture that the first two years in College held for a long time in the United States: The last time you were able to cut loose, be immature, not worry about the future, and just have fun with your friends.

The university exam system puts so much pressure on kids, and after that the focus is on preparing yourself for your future job--even from the start of college. Really since the early 1990s, finding a good job after college is by no means guaranteed in Japan, and I can't help but wonder if that pressure doesn't trickle all the way down to college freshmen (whereas American college freshmen are pretty insulated from the demands of the job market, and we let college kids stay undecided about their futures for really quite a long time, even in college).

In Japan, however, 2nd year in high school is the time when they are most involved in club activities, it's the time when they have to start making decisions about what they want to be with their lives, and it's the last time many of them will have any significant time to hang out with their friends in a relatively guilt free sort of way. (Again, note similarities with American college freshmen...) Those things will give it quite a bit of nostalgia in the minds of even older Japanese anime audiences--and also allow for a broader array of interesting stories than when most of their time and thoughts are focused on cram school, exams, and job concerns.


Best answer in this thread so far.

If you think the 'West' is guilty of inducing Conveyor-Belt Syndrome (high-school -> college -> boring-ass job), you should check out Japan.

I wouldn't be surprised if many mangaka/anime creators are simply trying to reminisce about their younger years, or even brainstorm what could have been...
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MeanwhileBackInCommunistRussia wrote:


mnmike wrote:

This is just speculation on my part, but I also don't wonder if the first two years in high school don't hold a similar place in Japanese culture that the first two years in College held for a long time in the United States: The last time you were able to cut loose, be immature, not worry about the future, and just have fun with your friends.

The university exam system puts so much pressure on kids, and after that the focus is on preparing yourself for your future job--even from the start of college. Really since the early 1990s, finding a good job after college is by no means guaranteed in Japan, and I can't help but wonder if that pressure doesn't trickle all the way down to college freshmen (whereas American college freshmen are pretty insulated from the demands of the job market, and we let college kids stay undecided about their futures for really quite a long time, even in college).

In Japan, however, 2nd year in high school is the time when they are most involved in club activities, it's the time when they have to start making decisions about what they want to be with their lives, and it's the last time many of them will have any significant time to hang out with their friends in a relatively guilt free sort of way. (Again, note similarities with American college freshmen...) Those things will give it quite a bit of nostalgia in the minds of even older Japanese anime audiences--and also allow for a broader array of interesting stories than when most of their time and thoughts are focused on cram school, exams, and job concerns.


Best answer in this thread so far.

If you think the 'West' is guilty of inducing Conveyor-Belt Syndrome (high-school -> college -> boring-ass job), you should check out Japan.

I wouldn't be surprised if many mangaka/anime creators are simply trying to reminisce about their younger years, or even brainstorm what could have been...


True, but atleast Japan(and infact the rest of the world outside the US), doesn't allow colleges to be treated like a damn business sigh. Talk about a no win situation for anyone who lives in the US. It's bad enough there's a ton of pressure to go to college, for a job you're never gonna get anyway, but you're expected to be indebt to the collage/bank for the rest of your life as well.
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