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On threads like these I always like making people aware of this problem.
Human population growth chart.


If this trend continues we as humans are fked.
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GMOs bro, GMOs :)


At least we'll be putting off part of the problem
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I don't understand why people bring topics like this onto this site? Whos your target
for these post? More then 1/2 the people havn't lived long enough to understand
history even more so econ history and the other 1/2 old enough don't care. Its the
whole reason they are on an anime site, cause they don't want to worry about it...

I understand what your saying somewhat, but I've learned that people either want
to get it or don't. Give up before you drive yourself crazy trying to reach people
outside of your group of "like minded thinkers".

I do feel somewhat for you though seeing your in Ireland. That country with a hand
full of other countries are having the worst time right now in the EU. Spains not doing
great, Greece isn't doing any better.. I wonder what the EU will look like in the next
couple of decades, if it makes it that far.
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Please elaborate. What about GMOs?
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Fuddbender wrote:


Please elaborate. What about GMOs?


I'm referring in general the use of GMOs to boost crop growth to feed an ever growing population more efficiently.

It'll support the growing population a bit, but GMOs can't fix all.
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TaiskaFaith wrote:

The day that I can't access the internet... now that would truly be the end of days

All you can continue to do is do the best you can and enjoy the time you have on this earth.


but you have to try to help others, especially if you can. altruism is what makes us human



That's cute. We're born alone, we die alone. Why should we bother wasting what little time we have on this Earth helping others? I say let people fend for themselves.
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i'll just stand here and watch
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Yeah no School :3
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saksiss wrote:


A-Eky wrote:


TaiskaFaith wrote:

The day that I can't access the internet... now that would truly be the end of days

All you can continue to do is do the best you can and enjoy the time you have on this earth.


but you have to try to help others, especially if you can. altruism is what makes us human



That's cute. We're born alone, we die alone. Why should we bother wasting what little time we have on this Earth helping others? I say let people fend for themselves.


that's a very sad and ignorant outlook on life, are you seriously trying to tell me that, no one has ever helped you at all in your time need?
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A-Eky wrote:


saksiss wrote:


A-Eky wrote:


TaiskaFaith wrote:

The day that I can't access the internet... now that would truly be the end of days

All you can continue to do is do the best you can and enjoy the time you have on this earth.


but you have to try to help others, especially if you can. altruism is what makes us human



That's cute. We're born alone, we die alone. Why should we bother wasting what little time we have on this Earth helping others? I say let people fend for themselves.


that's a very sad and ignorant outlook on life, are you seriously trying to tell me that, no one has ever helped you at all in your time need?


It's far from ignorant. It's not that people haven't offered or tried to help, but I see no logical reason to accept help from others or to put myself out to do the same for them. Let the weak help themselves or be claimed by natural selection.
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I think altruism is rising above human instinct to keep everyone else down.


i don't understand what you mean by that, i think when you help people or are being altruistic, you should not seek fame or recognition, you should do it simply because you like doing it and want to help, not to take advantage of the situation.

An example of what you should not do is visit and volunteer in a under served community, then take pictures of yourself doing things and post it all over your facebook, to show that you are a good person and your entire existence has changed over one volunteer service. that is obviously bullshit lol.


I mean humans habitually improve their lives by leeching off of others, altruism is to do better than that.
Therefore altruism is not normal human behavior.


it might not be normal but i think it is something everyone should strive for even if its just a little, it could have spiritual benefits as well if you do it for the right reason. i also agree that altruism is not something that is exclusive to humans, other mammals have shown signs of it as well.
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saksiss wrote:


A-Eky wrote:


saksiss wrote:


A-Eky wrote:


TaiskaFaith wrote:

The day that I can't access the internet... now that would truly be the end of days

All you can continue to do is do the best you can and enjoy the time you have on this earth.


but you have to try to help others, especially if you can. altruism is what makes us human



That's cute. We're born alone, we die alone. Why should we bother wasting what little time we have on this Earth helping others? I say let people fend for themselves.


that's a very sad and ignorant outlook on life, are you seriously trying to tell me that, no one has ever helped you at all in your time need?


It's far from ignorant. It's not that people haven't offered or tried to help, but I see no logical reason to accept help from others or to put myself out to do the same for them. Let the weak help themselves or be claimed by natural selection.


so your basically saying, you have never accepted help from others or do so willfully (which i do not buy), and the argument about natural selection will be stronger if we actually live and try to survive in nature, we don't, we live in a civilization. that is why we have doctors, aid workers, and others that try to help others as much as they can.

also going back to the idea that people die alone, i don't think this is necessarily always the case. if you live your life in such a way that it has a tremendous impact to people, no matter how small. people will mourn your loss when you die, and keep you alive in someways (in their thoughts or dreams for example). so i don't think that we all die alone.

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Well, you can buy my claim or not but considering you don't know me personally, it means nothing.

Dying alone. When I say this, I am speaking literally. When we die, that's it, only the individual dies and nobody else. "Living your life in such a way that has a tremendous impact to people" is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. It's another waste of time. Making people remember you won't bring you back or do anything else. It also holds the person who remembers you back and prevents them from moving forward.

Anyway, we're probably getting off track from the original post, so we'll just wrap this up as I believe helping people or relying on their help is what makes a person weak and worthless. You seem to think otherwise.
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saksiss wrote:

It's far from ignorant. It's not that people haven't offered or tried to help, but I see no logical reason to accept help from others or to put myself out to do the same for them. Let the weak help themselves or be claimed by natural selection.


I like how you call the things he says stupid while making a statement like that.

Imagine you're in a position where you're about to die but with the help of someone else you can easily stay alive? This someone who can save your life offers his help. Do you accept?

"I see no logical reason to accept help from others..."

Considering this scenario, logically defend your statement.

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I´m more worried about fish and bees going extinct.
About the human population: I´m not so worried about it, it just means bigger difference in rich and poor(and middle class etc.). More young deaths. Right now we can see that people usually don´t give birth to more than 2-3 kids if there is a good chance they will survive to adulthood. So the rich will probably do that but the poor will be as poor as humans in third world countries are today despite living in developed countries. There will probably be high death counts even among young people and birth-rites will be higher. The more people there are the less work there will be available and also the more expensive things will be. A big part of the poor people will die off in each generation.
Things like welfare and similar things won´t be sustainable, the human population will just keep getting bigger untill resources run out and people start to starve to death again. For there to be any welfare at all people would need to keep from any kind of luxury at all(voluntarily and EVERYONE), including surfing the net for entertainment, owning anything besides the bare minimum for existance, forget owning your own car, even riding collectively in busses would be a luxury. You could only eat enough to keep from starving to death, you wouldn´t even have your own home, health care would only be for the most important things and barely that too. And there would still be death from lack of money/resources. Not many would be willing to live like that voluntarily, much less everyone.
Even without welfare rich people might still do charity but not as much as before, could even be that not even the people that will be considered rich will have that much money themselves.
There would probably be a lot of criminality, pollution and other bad things. More women would have to go back to working in the home.

Well, thats what I think will happen anyway. There´s probably a lot more too.
We have been living in a time of abundance and expansion but it will come to an end, the more people there are the closer we get to the wall and the closer we get the more misery there will be. Earth won´t be able to feed us all for eternity, we might even do irreparable damage before we stop.

Or we can hope that people will be smart enough to avoid that.
LOL Looollll! Like that would happen!
No, just accept that we are stupid and will be stupid and in the end hit the wall of human population growth and there will be a lot of death and misery and unfairness and we will bring destruction and death to all around us before animals and natur can adapt to us. Maybe things like fish and bees will be the first to die, and maybe when humans have eaten everything left to eat we, too, will die.

Unless humans can do something about it first. But humans just don´t want to deal with it before it is absolutely neccesary. So ignorance is bliss, for now at least. Humans will just deal with it when it hits them in the face, I guess. There is always cockroaches, algae and cannibalism.
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