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Posted 4/5/15 , edited 4/5/15
First of all, keep this thread civilized!


I've noticed that the anime community have in the last couple of years been splitted in two sort of camps. The first camp is filled with old time anime fans from the 70's, 80's and 90's that thinks all new anime is crap and they tend to have the mindset that newer anime is just high budgets with no story or intelligence. The other camp is filled with people who only watch newer anime that get's all defensive when old time anime fans attacks newer anime's and their fans.

And then you have people like me, people like me like some of the old stuff and some of the newer stuff.

So where do you stand on this, what do you think about the anime community slitting in two?


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Some random facts, anime started in 1900 but there wasn't anything worth watching before the 2nd worldwar... However I wouldn't recommend watching the worldwar 2 stuff since it was mostly propaganda for the military. And Anime as we know it didn't start until the 1960's
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I appreciate old anime but I don't think old anime could do justice to some of the newer series and how the newer series paints such a vivid picture.

Granted I think ecchi anime series benefits more with new anime style but anime has been around for 40 years, most things are not gonna be original in my opinion. Everything has been done really, but I do think their will be some masterpieces that we will look back on in the next 10 years and think wow, these were the good times of anime.
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The anime today is not the anime that turned me into a drooling otaku. But I'm still addicted.
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It's all anime to me.
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I always see people arguing about this. But the fact is it's all a bunch of cherry picking. The fact is it's anime is the same as it was. Some stuff is good. Some is bad.

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I find it a bit more difficult to get into an older anime, aesthetic is part of the reason why I like anime so much and some older anime isn't that aesthetically pleasing. I know there are really good older anime but I just can't get into them if they look like crap.
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The only old anime I like is Dragon Ball and DBZ. Those were just way ahead of its time, and I can still sit down and enjoy it like a new anime airing (db kai lol)

But I fell in love with the new art and now I can legitimately say that I'm an otaku. Before then, I was just literally only watching bleach and naruto
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I feel something here..

Not really resonating w/ me, sorry
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The problem is some fans of old anime don't always actually know what the hell they are even talking about. What I mean is not all old anime was good like some of them claim. There were plenty of shit anime back then as well. But between the fact less was made back then and we've pretty much forgotten shitty anime from the 90s and prior even exist all we have left is the good stuff. Like we remember DBZ because it was good but there are other shonen released around the same time no one remembers because they weren't very good.

These days we see far more anime each season than we used to and that means more that can be good or bad. Some will be low quality and some will exist only to pander to Otaku and make money. But even today we see a few every year that are quite good and some that are amazing. Think about it nostalgia lovers talk about "the good days" but they can only list a few dozen shows released over the course of a couple decades. Then they point at a couple years in recent time and say "See nothing good comes out these days".

For example take Kill La Kill. Now obviously not everyone likes it but it was a show that clearly had a lot of passion, had a varried and creative cast, and actually had some pretty good plot twists and that is an anime of recent years. Amagi Brilliant Park was another anime from just a couple seasons ago that was quite funny but also knew when to be serious and was very creative in how it did things. Again whether you personally like these or not is up to you but speaking objectively both of these shows have good pacing, structure, and have many of the same qualities that people praise classics for while still being their own thing.

Now both of these examples are just two out of dozens of anime each season and I'm not going to pretend the rest was good to. But again old anime had it's fair share of shit as well we just don't remember most of it anymore. What matters is that every once in a while we get truly inspired and good shows and that is still happening.

So I'm not pretending all new anime is good but people need to remember not all old anime was all that great either.

However there are two things that make new and old anime different. Old anime had less rules and pressure. Since not much had come before there were less expectations and small buisnesses had to take more risks to try to make stuff that would sell in order to grow. This resulted in a lot of hit or misses and a very rough style that didn't always work but everything that did work was original because at that point there was nothing to copy yet. Now these days the buisness is big and buisness knows what sells. Because of this these are a lot of unwritten rules in how anime can be made and while some break those rules from time to time they are rare. However new anime benefits from newer technology allowing for better visuals and those rules I just mentioned aren't always a bad thing. You see while it means things tend to follow more of a set formula they are following a formula that works. They aren't fumbling around trying to find how to tell a story and that means a lot of shows today aren't actually that bad. Sure a lot of them are cliche but cliche only exists because it's been done alot already. A lot of those cliche exist in classics but people give those shows a pass because they did it first. Sure a lot of it feels generic but once in a while a show will take those lessons on what people want to see and do something new and creative with it.

So new anime isn't always limited by the formula and rules developed over the years sometimes they learn from them to create something people back then never would have thought of. Old anime just had to guess and hope they did something right.


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I find it a bit more difficult to get into an older anime, aesthetic is part of the reason why I like anime so much and some older anime isn't that aesthetically pleasing. I know there are really good older anime but I just can't get into them if they look like crap.


Exactly. Old anime lacked a proper sense of aesthetics because they were still trying to figure all that out. That isn't to say all old anime are ugly as anime of today learned it's sense of aethetics from the anime of the past. Anime that succeeded told them how to make anime and anime that flopped told them how not to make anime. But even after anime developed it's art style overtime that artistic sense changed and evolved with the tastes of the times.
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Posted 4/5/15 , edited 4/5/15
I love it all... old, middle, and new. I could not care less when it was made. Content is all that is important to me. Strong writing, good voice acting, well produced animation. or a mixture of two or more. That's all I care about.

Anyone that argues that "things were better in the good old days", has a head full of cats.

Time is a flat circle.
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Posted 4/5/15 , edited 4/5/15
I grew up watching anime I luv the classics and I enjoy new anime as well a good anime is a good anime regardless of "new" or "old" imo
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