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Post Reply Is It Me, Or Is It Today's Anime Industry?
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Well it's true that there are some genres that are filled with cliches and seem to be dismally unoriginal(how many anime's have their been of a special in some way boy going to a school where he gathers a harem which includes most if not all the cliches of tsunderes, derederes, child hood friend, the high class lady, etc. , bonus points if he is the only guy at the school and if the tsundere is flat with pink hair and a impulsive, childish attitude), every medium has certain genres that seem this way, maybe these cliches didn't stand out as much before when you first start out watching anime, but eventually you are going to see the 30th generic harem or shonen anime(though there are shows in these genres that manage to be unique, imo the majority usually follow the same formula set up by successful series) and you are going to get tired of it.

Also if you have been watching anime for a while, and I mean for about 5 years or longer which isn't that long if you think about it, nostalgia will probably make you remember older anime more fondly, and no this doesn't mean you will soon be yelling at those damn kids to get off your lawn.
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YES. New anime is filled with cliche and conformist ideas, most of the time very perverted, cheap plot and common personality traits of characters (ex: tsundere, yandere,etc.). THIS IS THE EXACT REASON WHY I DON'T WATCH NEW ANIME ANYMORE! New anime is so boring and cheap! The pace is very fast most of the time and I can never fully grasp the situation. I have gave up on watching new anime and popular animes a long time ago and now I am only watching old anime/ old OVAs (2006 - 80s mostly) and only a few popular/ "new" animes. Old anime is the BEST , the pace is nice and easy, the story is very interesting and original, THE MUSIC IS AMAZING BEYOND WORDS, and the art is different and unique in its own way. I wish there were more people my age ( im 14) who watches old anime, I feel so alone and sad that most teen anime watchers are missing out on great animes and watching animes like Attack on Titan, Free!, etc
Its really sad i tell ya ( TДT) but I cant change people's likings
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Posted 4/6/15
It's just you.

There are just plain more anime available for you to watch nowadays. When you just plain get more stuff, you'd see more bad along with the good.
Posted 4/7/15 , edited 4/7/15
Is gotten better. Now about cliches there not bad or good ones, the execution can make them good or bad. People are different, some people love cliches other hate it.


I also like to mention that when people find something they like, they tend to disregard anything new or different. I not saying everybody does this but you get my point.

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Posted 4/7/15
Blackoukmk2 may be on to something here.

http://anichart.net/archive

Pick any previous season from 2010 - back from the Anichart Archives and see just how many of the shows you remember. I'm betting not even half considering the quality of some of the shows offered. It's easy to forget the bad and remember the good. It's why you'll see people long out of high school only talk about the good times they had there on many occasions.
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The Spring season is already looking promising
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Posted 4/7/15

Rutsuki wrote:

[My apologies if this topic has been made already. I didn't bother to thoroughly check.]

I personally have felt like new anime is suffering in quality these days. Don't get me wrong; there are a few I find decent. Sometimes I just feel like an old bitty, yelling at the kids to get off her lawn. Still, I just don't feel like anime is the same as it used to be. I feel like it's become overly cliche and often times just plain half-assed. Perhaps because I've seen so much of it and am growing tired of it, or perhaps anime these days might just be pumped out to please and be forgotten soon after.

This I wonder about often, and don't really know one way or the other.

What do you think? Do you think anime has gotten worse in some ways over the years? Has it gotten better? Has it stayed the same?


Nope seems to be the same morality plays that I have always seen and the same clichés as well. Anime unlike American cartoons with the exception of a few has always been a morality play to reinforce social ideals. They take heavily from several character designs that have cropped up over the years. But at their heart anime teaches good will win out over evil and being a selfish bastard is bad. The other morality plays they tell are you should be helpful to others and such. But in the end these are designed to teach kids to be good people.

American cartoons have always tended towards fluff and fun some of them have done the morality play well but they fail to produce the sales in the toy market that the producers of the shows want. So they get yanked some succeed though like the original GI-Joe, Super-friends attempted this but it just was there.
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Modern anime seems decent in quality to me. I just wish the anime industry in the UK would pick it up. When are are going to start getting box sets that are genuinely complete rather than just having "complete collection" written on the box? The amount of times I've bought a box set, only to find there's OVA's or bonus shorts that are not included on the UK release....it's infuriating!
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Posted 5/18/15
The Year of 2012 was like paradise for me.

Now I can't even bother.
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Posted 5/18/15

rcsatcrunchyroll wrote:


Rutsuki wrote:
Still, I just don't feel like anime is the same as it used to be.


People have been saying this for as long as anime / manga fans have been on the Internet (i.e. as long as the Internet has been public). Your mileage is going to vary, no matter who you are. These days, I am feeling good about where it all is, though I do miss the stylings of days gone by (the '80s, in particular, the days of big hair, high budgets, and all-hand-drawn goodness).


The artwork of the 80's can still hold its own today (except for maybe the hair styles. I like the hair styles, but they don't quite hold up except for nostalgia purposes)

Also, the real PLOT (i.e. story, when plot didn't mean ecchi) many times was much better back then. The 80's introduced us to idols in anime. So back then it was NOT a cliche but now, it has a whole genre.

I feel that the ACTUAL PLOT has suffered in today's anime overall (Yes, there are a few quite well done ones, but not near as much as it is easier to draw some big "chests" and pantsu shots and sell it without an original thought of real writing involved. Yes I do enjoy watchng mindless ecchi at times, but it is fluff, not filling)
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Posted 5/18/15

Rutsuki wrote:

[My apologies if this topic has been made already. I didn't bother to thoroughly check.]

I personally have felt like new anime is suffering in quality these days. Don't get me wrong; there are a few I find decent. Sometimes I just feel like an old bitty, yelling at the kids to get off her lawn. Still, I just don't feel like anime is the same as it used to be. I feel like it's become overly cliche and often times just plain half-assed. Perhaps because I've seen so much of it and am growing tired of it, or perhaps anime these days might just be pumped out to please and be forgotten soon after.

This I wonder about often, and don't really know one way or the other.

What do you think? Do you think anime has gotten worse in some ways over the years? Has it gotten better? Has it stayed the same?


Honestly, I think we reached a Golden Age, if anything. Anime is being produced and translated to the U.S. at a rate never before seen because of technology, and this is the reason why it seems like anime is getting worse.

Think of it this way: in statistics, they say that the more of something you have, the less varies the ultimate result is. You can flip a coin ten times and have a possibility of getting tales nine times and heads once. But if you flip a coin a thousand times, you're more likely to get to the theoretical prediction: a 50/50 chance.

The same goes for anime as well as other entertainment mediums. In older days, we had significantly less anime coming over to the U.S. Anime was hard to find and not many people distributed anime widely like they do today. We also got the most popular and well-renowned pieces of content because the Japanese needed to make an investment if they wanted to sell anime overseas, so naturally, they send their best work. In other words, what we received as a whole a while ago was mostly great work because that's the only work the Japanese were willing to send. Keep in mind, great work is also rare and difficult to produce, so we also received a biased sample of what was really going on in the Japanese anime industry at the time.

Now that we have significantly more anime, however, the more mediocre stuff is more likely to come over now since virtually every simulcast is now available in the U.S. The truth is, humans are more likely to write mediocre content because writing something unique, original, and gripping is a difficult task that can take years of legitimate effort. FMA Brotherhood, Code Geass, Gintama, Golden Time, and other such works didn't just appear all at once in Japan, after all. And this isn't the writers fault at all; they have to produce to make a living and if everything was brilliant, what would we compare it to?

Therefore, the more anime you have, the more likely you are to pick out a more mediocre piece and the less likely you are to find the rare, brilliant piece. It's really just statistics in the end. For now, let's just be happy that we have so many options for anime, unlike the days of old where you could watch everything at once and have to wait two years for something new to be localized.
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Posted 5/18/15
Not enough racial diversity, personally I would have tolerated harems more if at least one of the females were black or European with hair that is not blonde
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If anything it is getting better, did you see the type of garbage coming out in droves back in 2013, everything was ecchi ecchi ecchi, moe, moe, moe, harem, harem, harem. At least the last few seasons have had a bit more diversity.
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Posted 5/18/15

staphen wrote:

At one time, I felt pretty confident that I'd seen my fair share of old anime, but when I actually looked at my list, I haven't even seen anything older than 1984, less than 1/10th of the anime I've seen came before the year 2000, and there's a good chunk of those old shows that I didn't even like. Going year by year since I started watching simulcasts, the really good shows seem to trickle in and the really bad shows are aplenty. As far as I can tell, nothing's really changed for me at all, except maybe that I've become hypercritical of the shounen genre.


Shonen in a nutshell these days: let's take a story that would have been a good 20-30 episode run and milk it a solid 150-300 until it continuously repeats arc themes like it is stuck in an endless time loop.
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Survivorship bias? I dunno...
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