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Posted 4/6/15
well, the ending dictates how the whole thing feels.
like suzuka, ever since fuuka, it just depressing, and not the epic love story i fell in love with.

or is this girl for real?! that ending was $h!t, and now i never want to read it again.

so yes, the ending is paramount.
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I'm more of the mind that the first few scenes of a film, the first few episodes of an anime, or the first couple of chapters of a novel are some of the most crucial. These are what hook the audience/reader, set the tone for the remainder of the work, provide the foundational framework and rules, and introduce the main protagonists. The ending ties things up, but it's the opening which determines whether people ever make it there.
Posted 4/6/15

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I'm more of the mind that the first few scenes of a film, the first few episodes of an anime, or the first couple of chapters of a novel are some of the most crucial. These are what hook the audience/reader, set the tone for the remainder of the work, provide the foundational framework and rules, and introduce the main protagonists. The ending ties things up, but it's the opening which determines whether people ever make it there.


Yes, but even so don't dismiss it, its an increasingly common problem when the bottom drops out of a work that carries much potential. I mentioned the movie Eragon, not anime but it makes my point, if you've read the books you'd notice the film made countless divergences from the books. And while I honestly liked the film and thought it had enormous potential I can see why critics and fans of the books were harsh with it. What I hate is that they made a sequel impossible, unless of course without rebooting.
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So let's say you have a series with 100 episodes, then if the last episode is bad then that euqals to 1% of the anime being bad and that shouldn't taint your overall opinion of the series. A anime's introduction episodes and main plot lines are far more important then a ending since chances are, if you didn't like something then you won't keep watching it no matter if the ending is good or bad.


1%, all things being equal.

All things are not equal. Just like on a well-written exam, where some questions are worth more than others, so it is with an anime. The first few episodes and the last few episodes bear distinctly more weight than those in the middle.

It's arguable which is more, because while the first few set the bar, it's the ending that seals the deal. I didn't care to watch Gunslinger Girl again (much less buy it) until Il Teatrino came out. I got to the end of the first season and went wtf? That's all? The ending is what makes it rewatchable.


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I'm more of the mind that the first few scenes of a film, the first few episodes of an anime, or the first couple of chapters of a novel are some of the most crucial. These are what hook the audience/reader, set the tone for the remainder of the work, provide the foundational framework and rules, and introduce the main protagonists. The ending ties things up, but it's the opening which determines whether people ever make it there.


And that's why SAO is terribad. :p

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I think Bleach is a prime example of the whole "ending is paramount".

I honestly believe that Bleach was supposed to end after Aizen was defeated and if it did end, I honestly think that would have changed a lot of people's opinions on the series as a whole.

But I think the success of the last fight made the author & the publisher & the fans want more. Thus born was the Fullbringer arc and in my opinion the worst arc in Big 3 history. The ending left a bad taste in most of the fan's mouths.

So yes, I think endings are very important in some situations. 12-13 episode series are affected the most since usually the last 3-4 episodes is the ending. Anime with more than 100 episodes vary because usually if it has over 100 episodes, it's popular and usually it's popular for a reason(arcs were good, characters are cool, story is amazing so far etc etc). But when it pushes and pushes episodes on to us, obviously the quality of the story is gonna decline. You can even use One Piece as an example because the newest arcs aren't that great to be honest. Fishman Island & Punk Hazard were not very good in my opinion.

I think the endings for longer series has a lot more leeway but for shorter series I think it can truly ruin a series.
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It seems these days a lot of anime are doing something important; giving closure to fans after the fact. In the past, after a series ended if you saw an ova it'd either be ecchi, an onsen episode or a beach episode. These days they're being used to add closure to a series they've finally resigned themselves to the fact there won't be any new seasons. For some anime, by the end of their run you can tell if there's enough demand for a new season in the future; For others, the other factors that help determine a new season's worth keep going on after the fact (manga sales, merchandise sales, light novel sales, videogame sales). If the anime bombed but still managed to bring in the product sales it's pretty much a sure bet it'll still get a new season.

Shows like Future Diary, managed to tick off many viewers with their ending. So to make everyone happy they tacked on an alternate ending OVA for unhappy viewers onto the series. That way both camps would come out with a satisfying experience.

The best and most surprising is Listen to Me Girls, I'm Your Father which just recently delivered an OVA 4 years after the series end to let you know what happened to your favorite characters 4 years after the fact. Seeing how they grew up through the eyes of the ghosts of their dead parents. It actually made for a happy and satisfying ending. If you were happy with the show's ending you don't need to see the OVA, but if you find yourself pining for closure it's a fun extra to watch to make for a satisfying experience.

There's a difference between holding out for hope and having blind faith when it comes to future seasons of a show, nowadays an OVA or a movie can both do that and bring up set sales.
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Yes, but even so don't dismiss it, its an increasingly common problem when the bottom drops out of a work that carries much potential. I mentioned the movie Eragon, not anime but it makes my point, if you've read the books you'd notice the film made countless divergences from the books. And while I honestly liked the film and thought it had enormous potential I can see why critics and fans of the books were harsh with it. What I hate is that they made a sequel impossible, unless of course without rebooting.


Well, I don't want to discount an ending's importance entirely. I'm just saying that if I had a gun to my head and had to choose either the beginning or the end as the most important of all, and couldn't say both, I'd choose the beginning. The truth is that I consider the characters to be the most important thing of all, because if they're not well-written, engaging, and interesting then it's impossible to have either a good ending or beginning anyway.


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And that's why SAO is terribad. :p


What we need is a spinoff starring Silica, Suguha, and Sinon. We could call it Sword Art Online X-2.
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endings are very important, it can make or break a show. its okay to have a decent ending, just don't have a completely shit ending.

like clannad, i thought the ending was very good in this show. they showed the sad aspect of the show that had an emotional toll on people who watched and understood it, then a very nice and intelligent ending that kinda changed all that, and was slightly confusing at first, but if you watch it several times, then you begin to understand it. fate zero and beyond the boundary also had complex good endings. so you don't always have to play it safe for the ending to be good.
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The ending is extremely important in the fact that the audience needs closure. A story can have a great beginning and middle but if you slack off at the end you can lose your entire audience. Mass Effect is a prime example of this. I loved the story in that game. i loved that all of my decisions were tracked throughout the series and I got to see the consequences of those choices. The ending of the game took all of my choices and threw them out the window for some contrived ending that didn't even acknowledge my accomplishments. Before the release of Mass Effect 3 I played Mass Effect 1&2 countless times creating new saves with different choices. I loved playing Mass Effect 3 until the ending hit now I can't even look at the game the same. The same can be said for anime. The ending is the final act. You have to make it count.
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I like it when there is a good show and it ends good also I like it when it just ends with one season because it was a good show. Over a period of time the show starts to become dull like "Naruto" so I like it when it ends with a good ending and with one season (Kind of repeating myself...)
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Yes. The ending is PARAMOUNT!!!

Don't get me wrong many shows are very good and well put together up until their last episode, but how a show ends will affect your feelings for the show and its characters every time you think about it.

A bad ending can easily ruin the greatest of shows. And a good ending can turn a bad show into a passable show. The reason that the ending is so critical is because it should tie up everything that you as the viewer invested time in this show to find out.

Even if the anime is made to advertise the original source material that is no excuse for a bad ending. "go read the manga" endings are quite common in anime and to a certain degree unavoidable. Not every show has the budget or the source material to go on for long amounts of time but they could still use the exposure. Nonetheless This should not make the Anime experience suffer. To end on cliffhangers or just completely OMIT key story points means that you have not effectively ended the show in a way that the audience is content and that is why bad endings leave a sower taste in my mouth.

My point is, the ending is paramount because i decided to invest my time in the anime. To ruin the experience that i watched and the animators painstakingly made frame by frame is a disservice to everyone involved.

The show should stand on its own and be good enough for me to find interest in the source material because i want to not because Ive been cheated out of answers i should have got in episode 12 or 24.
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They are important but they don't define an anime for me. I hate anime that treat the ending as the climax. I like good, old-fashioned story structure. Introduction -> Rising Action -> Climax -> Falling Action -> Resolution.
Posted 4/6/15
Sounds like someones being watching Arkada's videos, he's the only one I've ever heard use the word paramount.

I say yes. The ending can either make or break an anime.

Oreimo was a good anime, absolutely terrible ending.

Parasyte great anime, horrible ending imo.

Angel Beats meh anime overall but ending was very good.
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what does that meeen??
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what does that meeen??


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paramount

Basically what this post is asking is if the ending of anime is the most important part.
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