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Okay, this kinda bothers me to be honest. Because I'm one of those kids that befriends their professors and holds conversations with them on a regular basis. But I wouldn't call myself a "good student" and I'm not by any means..."brown nosing". I just really like having intellectual conversations and if a topic interests me, I want to know more about it. I show up to class early and leave late (it's very rare that I ditch), but that's just how I was raised as a person and as an athlete. If someone is giving me their time, I make sure to make use of it. I do draw during class, but that's more of a nervous habit thing, and I still pay attention. But more importantly, I ask questions and I answer the questions (or try to) when a professor asks.

Now to my point. Last week, I had a Marketing Plan due, but I forgot to include a market analysis. Instead of giving me a bad grade, my professor e-mailed me and let me turn in that part of the paper that night. (Granted, I did a market analysis in less than an hour so it was really horrid). With out the market analysis, my grade would've been a 54%, but after I included the market analysis, my professor gave me a 85%.

It's not just that class. For one of my classes, we have a take home exam that's paired with an in-class exam. I straight up BOMBED the in-class exam and got a 48%, but my professor gave me a 130% grade for my take home exam. (I earned all 30 points of extra credit.) So combined, I got an exam score of 89%. The class average for the in-class exam was a 60% and the average for the take home exam was 80%. I really don't know if I deserved that 130% on the take home exam, but I also know my professor was upset because a few students had plagiarized on the take home exam.

Anyways, these are just a couple of recent examples. Even though I'm thankful that my mess-ups won't have a big impact on my overall grades in my classes...I want to EARN those grades....not get special treatment.

Has anyone else experienced this? What are your thoughts?
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If my students turn up for my tutorial session I'm happy, if one of them was engaged and honestly trying they would get more slack with regards to the day to day side of things (deadlines and daft unintentional mistakes like forgetting a section). That being said however I find it unlikely anyone would give you a mark they didn't think you deserved and accurately reflected your ability in your subject.
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No one can be a good students, not even good students.
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There is this class: Labor Law which is normal, yet you have to study to earn a B or C then we have this Exam practice and theory supposed to be hold at different weeks... that was never the case the day of the theory only exam we get notified that we will held both part the Practical and the theory parts... at the same day with held as separated grades.... just why it seems that someone convinced the professor to held the exam early to they be on vacation trip on Holy Week...
Today I got an F (30 points) because I was unprepared to the exam. (65% of the class got an F too)
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In my last semester before getting my B.S., I was really burned out and had to drop a class that wasn't essential to graduating. But it was after the drop deadline. So I respectfully informed the prof that I was unable to continue and let him know I understood what it would mean for my grade if I missed the final.

He was pretty cool about it, gave me the option of accepting either a letter grade or an incomplete, which wouldn't do anything to my gpa. It probably helped that my grade (so far) was good and I participated in class discussions. I took the incomplete since I would still have enough credits to graduate.

So as a student I agree with dsjb, most professors are willing to be lenient when they see their students are actually working. On the flip side, now that I'm a grad student I hear the profs complain about students who only show up for exams and fail to turn in work even when their hands are held. Those students don't get leniency lol. Or if they do, it's real grade inflation.
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I taught at a high school and--being perfectly honest--was willing to make an extra effort to help those students who themselves made an extra effort at my class. The interest and participation that you've indicated you give would certainly have encouraged me as a teacher to make occasional allowances for you. And that's not unfair. Remember the story of "The Little Red Hen," in which each is rewarded according to the level of his/her participation.
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As both a student and teacher I can sorta lean on either side of this scale. Personally, I believe in curving, as tests/quizzes/etc are meant to gauge a student's knowledge on how well they know the subject. From what I can tell, your professor believed that your work is good enough for the grades and thus assigned them.

For your marketing analysis, it seems that a B letter grade would be appropriate, given the circumstances you have mentioned. You have displayed that you knew the material, but forgot a portion of it. Luckily your professor contacted you about the missing part and you turned it in (as bad as it may be) and received some points back.

As for your paired exams, plagiarism is a big issue more so in a higher education setting. Personally, I would give students who followed the rules and did the material properly more credit than those who did not, otherwise it would defeat the purpose of academic honesty.

When the day is over though, if you do not feel like you haven't been treated fairly (either in favor for or against) then you should probably ask your professor about it. I would do a few things before asking your professor though. Talk to your peers about their grades and compare results. If you have similar grades with similar results, then all should be fine. If not, then I would thing something is amiss. I would also ask for a class average if one is available. This will show where you are relative to everyone, not just your peers. If your peers are not as adept, or more adept, this method will be able to show where you should be.
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Well that sounds like special treatment from how involved in class you are. I'm still in HS but there are teachers who've given some extra credit points to say bump a student from an 89 average to a 90 because of how hard they were working. It's more likely the professor knows how much effort you're putting into class and thinks you deserve a bonus for that effort. How many other people are putting in that same effort?

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You are earning those marks, by showing a vested interest in the material. While tests and assignments are the standard way to test a student's grasp of a subject, they in themselves are not perfect. Actual discussion is often a far better indicator of how well you know your way around your studies, it's just that discussion is undocumented: it can't really be reduced to a grade to be thrown into the bureaucratic machinery of the educational system, because it's not standardized. Professors acknowledge this: what seems to be preferential treatment is usually their attempt to reward students who display their interest in and grasp of a subject in ways that traditional testing doesn't always acknowledge.
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Wow, thank you everyone for your replies. I was not expecting so many people to give such good, reassuring answers. Everyone's comments helped ease some of my anxiety about this subject. I would especially like to thank the teachers who commented in regards to this topic. I wish I could reply to everyone's comments individually, but I wouldn't want to 'spam' this thread with replies. I remember the story of "The Little Red Hen," and really enjoyed it. Bavalt's comment about how exams don't always test competency within a subject really sits well with me because I freeze up when it comes to exams. I much rather have short answer questions than a multiple choice exam. I will take TheDimmLight's advice about talking to my peers about their scores so I can get an idea of where I am compared to the class. Feynmanszombie, I have also seen those students who don't care about class and then ask for help at the last minute when they realize that they're going to fail...but usually it's because they finally realized that they'll be ineligible to play their sport if they fail the class...not to stereotype or anything. I was a college athlete too, so I know how hard it is to balance the two.

But really, everyone, thank you for your inputs. I feel much better about the grades that I have received in those classes.
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IngramIV wrote:

There is this class: Labor Law which is normal, yet you have to study to earn a B or C then we have this Exam practice and theory supposed to be hold at different weeks... that was never the case the day of the theory only exam we get notified that we will held both part the Practical and the theory parts... at the same day with held as separated grades.... just why it seems that someone convinced the professor to held the exam early to they be on vacation trip on Holy Week...
Today I got an F (30 points) because I was unprepared to the exam. (65% of the class got an F too)


I'm really sorry that happened to you. Hopefully there will be a curve or more chances to make up some more points so that exam doesn't kill you. I do not have fond memories of the law class I had to take.
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well at least you're participating in class and talking about the subjects with your prof instead of just being like "yo what'd you have for dinner last night lol man that cafeteria food is nasty" or something. i think by showing them that you are taking a vested interest in their field of study, they know that even if you bomb a test/project you are still learning and you still want to do better

however if this was testing for a medical degree i'd take an issue lol
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No. I did everything on my own. If anything I got reprimanded for not doing homework and slacking off, despite showing I could cover the semester's material in a month... at least in HS anyway. In college i did well in what I cared about and ditched the rest. I dropped out with a crappy grade but I earned it.

Outside of school, I found this is just a way of life. Regardless of what people say or do, you will always, always, always be judged more on how favorable an impression you leave on people, (how you make them feel about you) than you ever will based on merit. And first impressions and "fit" within a culture/company are more important than most other things when it comes to getting a job....

Finally, if your pic is honestly you, you're a pretty young woman. People will always give favor to attractive and young people of the opposite sex. Enjoy it while you can, and prepare for the day it no longer lasts.
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PruBenAzul wrote:
But I wouldn't call myself a "good student" and I'm not by any means..."brown nosing". I just really like having intellectual conversations and if a topic interests me, I want to know more about it. I show up to class early and leave late (it's very rare that I ditch), but that's just how I was raised as a person and as an athlete.

But more importantly, I ask questions and I answer the questions (or try to) when a professor asks.

Now to my point. Last week, I had a Marketing Plan due, but I forgot to include a market analysis. Instead of giving me a bad grade, my professor e-mailed me and let me turn in that part of the paper that night. (Granted, I did a market analysis in less than an hour so it was really horrid). With out the market analysis, my grade would've been a 54%, but after I included the market analysis, my professor gave me a 85%.

It's not just that class. For one of my classes, we have a take home exam that's paired with an in-class exam. I straight up BOMBED the in-class exam and got a 48%, but my professor gave me a 130% grade for my take home exam. (I earned all 30 points of extra credit.) So combined, I got an exam score of 89%. The class average for the in-class exam was a 60% and the average for the take home exam was 80%. I really don't know if I deserved that 130% on the take home exam, but I also know my professor was upset because a few students had plagiarized on the take home exam.

Anyways, these are just a couple of recent examples. Even though I'm thankful that my mess-ups won't have a big impact on my overall grades in my classes...I want to EARN those grades....not get special treatment.

Has anyone else experienced this? What are your thoughts?


So I dropped out of college, first caveat.

Had professors at my first college, private college, who literally called me because they knew I wouldn't wake up, but the campus was small.

I gave my all in class every day when I was there, I transferred colleges at the end of my freshman year because budgeting cancelled my major (journalism) and I moved back to my hometown to pursue my degree. The advisement at the public college couldn't figure out how to transfer my private credits and didn't have the time or resources to figure it out, lots and lots of students, wouldn't hear me out and honestly didn't care.

So now I'm at city college, and I'm taking public speaking, introductory biology, and Native American Studies as a sophomore, because they figured out that even though I have 37 credit hours, those credit hours count towards nothing besides some extra freshman seniority.

Public Speaking, I show my teacher medals from my forensics team (not studying dead bodies, presenting written pieces, like solo drama) and student congress days, miss 8 classes when the cutoff for failure was supposed to be 5. Somebody else in class missed 5, got flunked, I missed 8, passed.

Biology, I would have passed if lecture was enough, showed up for all my biology tests, got above 90% on each test because it was a boring rehash of everything I'd learned throughout my school years, failed because I wouldn't show up to lab to prove I understood how a microscope worked, had other work to attend to.

Native American Studies, I did my group's final project for them, slept through the presentation, they bombed, showed up at the last 5 minutes for another group's presentation. Teacher grilled me on my group's topic and I told him everything, he explained how they messed everything I said up, gave us all full credit.


I hated college, but if you're getting good grades, don't drop out. You won't get the same breaks if you drop out and try to go back.

Posted 4/6/15 , edited 4/6/15
Only when you sleep with them.

Hey Teacher ♥

But hey - regardless, you're actually learning, you're interested in what you're doing and even if you don't do well or "bomb" the test sometimes - you want to get better and you want to improve. No matter what the teacher does, you're getting the most gain.

Anyway, in my experience just chatting to various folks, some do very well yet their professors treat them badly for whatever reason. Others don't do well/as well, but their teachers favor them for whatever reason.

Real world problems, folks. Happens everywhere.
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