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You're good at starting nonsensical forum topics.
It wont happen give it up.



The term "alien" isn't just used to classify multi-cellular organisms, you know. Even prokaryotes count as foreign life forms. Plus Europa, one of the solar bodies talked about in the article that OP posted is inside our solar systems "habitable zone", so there is definitely a chance for there to be SOMETHING there. I'd say that it's a bit of a logical fallacy to say that there is a 0% chance of us finding any sort of life on other planets.


Actually Europa is outside the Goldy Locks zone it does, however; appear to have active volcanism which means the water that it does have on it may harbor life, similar to the life found in the deepest parts of the oceans on earth near volcanic vents. The Goldy Lock Zone is between Venus and Mar roughly you could actually cool Venus and make it habitability but we are missing bits of the tech to do that right now. Mostly you need to figure out how to stop the run away green house effect on it and then reverse it. Mars you need to add atmosphere to which is a whole other problem. Both could be human habitable worlds but you need to tinker with them to get them there. You couldn't live on the moons of Jupiter without specially build habitats, which makes it easier to just live in the space above them.

Also when they refer to extraterrestrial life they are referring to life not found on earth this being any form of life. While a prokaryote isn't what a normal person would consider life it is neither alien or extraterrestrial since alien infers something unfamiliar. We do understand how the little buggers work really well actually this understanding means a scientist wouldn't consider it alien.

Alien defined.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alien



When I was talking about the habitable zone, I was more so talking about the zone in which liquid water can form on planets and moons, making it possible for life to form there, not areas that could potentially be inhabited by humans. As for the whole prokaryote matter, I guess I used the wrong word to describe what I was saying. I should have said "microscopic" or "unicellular", since it covers a broader category. But just because unicellular organisms are found here doesn't mean that those found on other planets aren't mysterious or unknown. Also, I was referring to the more extraterrestrial definition of "alien" that the word has adopted in recent decades, since, well, the hypothetical organisms that I have been talking about ARE extraterrestrial.

I guess I could've cleared a few things up. Sorry about that.
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Wolfdude120 wrote:


gvblackmoon wrote:


Wolfdude120 wrote:


SweetPerplexity wrote:

You're good at starting nonsensical forum topics.
It wont happen give it up.



The term "alien" isn't just used to classify multi-cellular organisms, you know. Even prokaryotes count as foreign life forms. Plus Europa, one of the solar bodies talked about in the article that OP posted is inside our solar systems "habitable zone", so there is definitely a chance for there to be SOMETHING there. I'd say that it's a bit of a logical fallacy to say that there is a 0% chance of us finding any sort of life on other planets.


Actually Europa is outside the Goldy Locks zone it does, however; appear to have active volcanism which means the water that it does have on it may harbor life, similar to the life found in the deepest parts of the oceans on earth near volcanic vents. The Goldy Lock Zone is between Venus and Mar roughly you could actually cool Venus and make it habitability but we are missing bits of the tech to do that right now. Mostly you need to figure out how to stop the run away green house effect on it and then reverse it. Mars you need to add atmosphere to which is a whole other problem. Both could be human habitable worlds but you need to tinker with them to get them there. You couldn't live on the moons of Jupiter without specially build habitats, which makes it easier to just live in the space above them.

Also when they refer to extraterrestrial life they are referring to life not found on earth this being any form of life. While a prokaryote isn't what a normal person would consider life it is neither alien or extraterrestrial since alien infers something unfamiliar. We do understand how the little buggers work really well actually this understanding means a scientist wouldn't consider it alien.

Alien defined.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alien



When I was talking about the habitable zone, I was more so talking about the zone in which liquid water can form on planets and moons, making it possible for life to form there, not areas that could potentially be inhabited by humans. As for the whole prokaryote matter, I guess I used the wrong word to describe what I was saying. I should have said "microscopic" or "unicellular", since it covers a broader category. But just because unicellular organisms are found here doesn't mean that those found on other planets aren't mysterious or unknown. Also, I was referring to the more extraterrestrial definition of "alien" that the word has adopted in recent decades, since, well, the hypothetical organisms that I have been talking about ARE extraterrestrial.

I guess I could've cleared a few things up. Sorry about that.


No problem I sort of understood what you meant but the life zone or Goldy Lock zone refer to the specific area that is where it is just right to have liquid water with the right conditions. The Earth without CO2 would be an ice ball once you add that into the mix at the right level we warm up nicely and you get liquid water. Europa will forever be a ball of ice nothing we can do about it unless we figure out how to move it, the reason we suspect there is volcanism on it is there are signs that only occur when you have that present on a moon or planet.

No doubt about them being ET we will find them sooner I suspect than late but that has yet to be seen. Didn't honestly expect it within my lifetime.
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There are no aliens, but there can be strange beings created by nasa who put them in the space and then explain people these were found in space and everybody go woooooooo aliens exist and people never realize they're being fooled, deceived and lied to. Read the Bible, Eternal life is real, there is life after death. God existed before any human since He is the Creator. Jesus is the Son of God. If you call this madness then please do research and prove me wrong :)


Your fairytales have no business in this thread. The bible is book written by many in a time where people practically knew nothing of science. The bible itself spreads anti homosexuality, anti science, sexism, murder, etc, etc. your "holy" book is outdated, there is no need for it anymore.
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The flying spaghetti monster Will be the one and ONLY thing anyone will find out in Space and Once he is Found it will rain meatballs for 100 years
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Meanwhile...in a galaxy far far away...

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gvblackmoon wrote:


Wolfdude120 wrote:


gvblackmoon wrote:


Wolfdude120 wrote:


SweetPerplexity wrote:

You're good at starting nonsensical forum topics.
It wont happen give it up.



The term "alien" isn't just used to classify multi-cellular organisms, you know. Even prokaryotes count as foreign life forms. Plus Europa, one of the solar bodies talked about in the article that OP posted is inside our solar systems "habitable zone", so there is definitely a chance for there to be SOMETHING there. I'd say that it's a bit of a logical fallacy to say that there is a 0% chance of us finding any sort of life on other planets.


Actually Europa is outside the Goldy Locks zone it does, however; appear to have active volcanism which means the water that it does have on it may harbor life, similar to the life found in the deepest parts of the oceans on earth near volcanic vents. The Goldy Lock Zone is between Venus and Mar roughly you could actually cool Venus and make it habitability but we are missing bits of the tech to do that right now. Mostly you need to figure out how to stop the run away green house effect on it and then reverse it. Mars you need to add atmosphere to which is a whole other problem. Both could be human habitable worlds but you need to tinker with them to get them there. You couldn't live on the moons of Jupiter without specially build habitats, which makes it easier to just live in the space above them.

Also when they refer to extraterrestrial life they are referring to life not found on earth this being any form of life. While a prokaryote isn't what a normal person would consider life it is neither alien or extraterrestrial since alien infers something unfamiliar. We do understand how the little buggers work really well actually this understanding means a scientist wouldn't consider it alien.

Alien defined.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/alien



When I was talking about the habitable zone, I was more so talking about the zone in which liquid water can form on planets and moons, making it possible for life to form there, not areas that could potentially be inhabited by humans. As for the whole prokaryote matter, I guess I used the wrong word to describe what I was saying. I should have said "microscopic" or "unicellular", since it covers a broader category. But just because unicellular organisms are found here doesn't mean that those found on other planets aren't mysterious or unknown. Also, I was referring to the more extraterrestrial definition of "alien" that the word has adopted in recent decades, since, well, the hypothetical organisms that I have been talking about ARE extraterrestrial.

I guess I could've cleared a few things up. Sorry about that.


No problem I sort of understood what you meant but the life zone or Goldy Lock zone refer to the specific area that is where it is just right to have liquid water with the right conditions. The Earth without CO2 would be an ice ball once you add that into the mix at the right level we warm up nicely and you get liquid water. Europa will forever be a ball of ice nothing we can do about it unless we figure out how to move it, the reason we suspect there is volcanism on it is there are signs that only occur when you have that present on a moon or planet.

No doubt about them being ET we will find them sooner I suspect than late but that has yet to be seen. Didn't honestly expect it within my lifetime.


Oh, oops! I read somewhere that Europa was inside the habitable zone. I guess I just misunderstood!
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Posted 4/14/15
Wishful thinking imo.

They are saying anything with water = possibly life. Any planet with same distance from its sun as Earth = possibly life.

Neglecting atmospheric composition, gravitation and several other factors that can't be obtained. There's no concrete evidence to suggest there is anything out there.
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When NASA says that they'll find evidence of life on other worlds. They're talking about microbes on the other planets and moons of our solar system. And they're talking about looking at a planet with instruments that will show them organic materials that could be plants and animals.

They aren't talking about seeing spaceships and little green men....

You folks saying "life, elsewhere, will never be found," are like the guys that kept saying, the world is flat, and then later, that the Earth was at the center of the Solar System, etc, etc.

Even, here on Earth, they keep finding new life in places they never expected. There's a pocket of water at the bottom of the ice covering Antarctica (the actual island land mass), and they've discovered a whole new world of living microbes that don't even come close to comparing to the other microbes that exists on the rest of this planet.

It's because of that discovery in Antarctica that NASA can say boldly that they have confidence in finding life in Europa, and even beyond the solar system.
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Parasyte -maxim- or Terraformars =o?
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When NASA says that they'll find evidence of life on other worlds. They're talking about microbes on the other planets and moons of our solar system. And they're talking about looking at a planet with instruments that will show them organic materials that could be plants and animals.

They aren't talking about seeing spaceships and little green men....

You folks saying "life, elsewhere, will never be found," are like the guys that kept saying, the world is flat, and then later, that the Earth was at the center of the Solar System, etc, etc.

Even, here on Earth, they keep finding new life in places they never expected. There's a pocket of water at the bottom of the ice covering Antarctica (the actual island land mass), and they've discovered a whole new world of living microbes that don't even come close to comparing to the other microbes that exists on the rest of this planet.

It's because of that discovery in Antarctica that NASA can say boldly that they have confidence in finding life in Europa, and even beyond the solar system.


I wouldn't compare a flat earth to the existence of aliens. A round earth is necessary under scientific doctrine. Aliens by comparison do not necessarily exist but I do agree that you shouldn't say life doesn't exist outside of earth as it is unknown.

I saw a comment about someone saying that they were certain alien life existed, would like to know how you know this.
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When NASA says that they'll find evidence of life on other worlds. They're talking about microbes on the other planets and moons of our solar system. And they're talking about looking at a planet with instruments that will show them organic materials that could be plants and animals.

They aren't talking about seeing spaceships and little green men....

You folks saying "life, elsewhere, will never be found," are like the guys that kept saying, the world is flat, and then later, that the Earth was at the center of the Solar System, etc, etc.

Even, here on Earth, they keep finding new life in places they never expected. There's a pocket of water at the bottom of the ice covering Antarctica (the actual island land mass), and they've discovered a whole new world of living microbes that don't even come close to comparing to the other microbes that exists on the rest of this planet.

It's because of that discovery in Antarctica that NASA can say boldly that they have confidence in finding life in Europa, and even beyond the solar system.


I wouldn't compare a flat earth to the existence of aliens. A round earth is necessary under scientific doctrine. Aliens by comparison do not necessarily exist but I do agree that you shouldn't say life doesn't exist outside of earth as it is unknown.

I saw a comment about someone saying that they were certain alien life existed, would like to know how you know this.



I read the article. And I read other scientific articles on the subject. The two, independent articles, were written by NASA scientists, and Russian scientists. They concluded that based on the propensity for life to assert itself where it can, that they were confident that life can exist outside of Earth's biosphere. That means that life can exist anywhere that it can get away with doing it. If it's in a pocket of water at the bottom of an ice field two miles thick, or at the bottom of a sun-less ocean near volcanic vents, or on other planets that are not planet Earth, life has a good chance of being there.

The odds are good that evidence of life - microbial life - will be found within our lifetimes in our solar system. Our grand kids will read the news of evidence of life outside of our solar system.

I'll bet that Las Vegas gamblers - if they were so inclined - who read the scientific papers would place their bets on NASA being right - and they'd win that bet.
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Hmm that sounds interesting
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It's safe to say that alien life is already out there. If you look throughout history, Earth has been visited by other life forms for centuries, but people refuse to accept it.
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