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Post Reply Dzhokhar Tsarnaev found guilty on all counts.
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Exactly as it sounds, the jury returned a guilty verdict on all charges after about 12 hours of deliberation. Now they are just going to have to decide whether to give him the death penalty or life in prison. I hope the guy rots in a cell somewhere personally, the problem with this guy is he successfully carried out his plan so executing him is highly likely to make him appear as a martyr for the cause. When using the fear of death to prevent terrorism, you need to apprehend the leadership and the individuals carrying out the act as they attempt executing the plan. There needs to be a belief that the actions will be prevented and all parties involved will be killed for that to work.

Another point I find odd is the WMD charges, I will spoil my thoughts on that though(DO NOT read unless you are very thick skinned) and leave the generalized definition provided by the FBI from their website which is as follows:

"Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) are defined in US law (18 USC §2332a) as:

(A) any destructive device as defined in section 921 of this title (i.e. explosive device);
(B) any weapon that is designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals, or their precursors;
(C) any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or vector (as those terms are defined in section 178 of this title)
(D) any weapon that is designed to release radiation or radioactivity at a level dangerous to human life.

WMD is often referred to by the collection of modalities that make up the set of weapons: chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear, and explosive (CBRNE). These are weapons that have a relatively large-scale impact on people, property, and/or infrastructure."



I'm also wondering how many people have used this as a reason to think that their lives are in constant danger of terrorism, and if they truly understand how many safeties had to be bypassed for something like this to actually be carried out.

What are your thoughts on what the punishment should be?

Should the WMD charges have stood?

Do you think the United States is more threatened by terrorism from foreign or internal sources?

CNN story on the trial: http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/08/us/boston-marathon-bombing-trial/
List of charges against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/apr/08/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-boston-marathon-bombing-guilty-charges-list
FBI WMD page: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/terrorism/wmd
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Life imprisonment for his sentence in my opinion.

The WMD charges were daft and really not necessary, it sets a dumb precedent.

The actual threat from external terrorism is minimal, your far more likely to be killed by one of your own country men (in terrorism or just regular violence) than a external terrorist.

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dsjb wrote:

Life imprisonment for his sentence in my opinion.

The WMD charges were daft and really not necessary, it sets a dumb precedent.

The actual threat from external terrorism is minimal, your far more likely to be killed by one of your own country man (in terrorism or just regular violence) than a external terrorist.



Pretty much this, and I don't think they should have given him the death penalty.

Honestly though, did anyone think we were ever going to get a non-guilty verdict, with the kind of media coverage the case got?

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Posted 4/9/15 , edited 4/11/15
Honestly.. Things would be a lot cleaner if we just gassed all of the prisons, drop the corpses into a pit, move new prisoners into the prisons, rinse and repeat.
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No surprise there..
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dsjb wrote:

The actual threat from external terrorism is minimal, your far more likely to be killed by one of your own country men (in terrorism or just regular violence) than a external terrorist.



Especially if you are living in the U.S.A. as the number of agencies that exist monitoring foreign terror threats is twice that of any other first world nation, and the quantity of resources and money available for surveillance and intelligence gathering is astronomical.


jordancharacter wrote:

Pretty much this, and I don't think they should have given him the death penalty.

Honestly though, did anyone think we were ever going to get a non-guilty verdict, with the kind of media coverage the case got?



He hasn't been sentenced, that comes next. The guilty for everything is not surprising at all, I just think the WMD charges are stupid.
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Once again very vague wording has been implemented to allow them to slap the charge on as they see fit. We see this thing all the time not just with criminal definitions but with things such as the Patriot Act. While well meaning such definitions are definitely open to abuse.

WMD charge aside I can agree with pretty much any strong punishment aside from execution.
Posted 4/9/15
Better the chair, then he can go quick and avoid prison gays.
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I don't think anyone is surprised at the verdict, though the WMD charges are a bit mystifying due to the fact the bomb they used never released any of the qualifiers for a WMD. Sets a pretty dangerous precedent. There's been plenty of those being set recently that have made the justice system break down in ways previously unfathomable.

Wouldn't surprise me if the jury OK's the death penalty either. It's usually multiple murders or horribly aggravated violence that land the death penalty on someone. He sure has a lot of blood on his hands.
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The verdict is exactly as expected (save the WMD charge, which kind of came out of nowhere), and I am glad the matter is nearly settled. The death penalty, however, should be avoided. The last thing to do is give a militant radical his execution. It would practically be rewarding and vindicating him in the eyes of other radicals to have an execution, you'd be creating a stage for him. No, he dies an eventually forgotten old man who rotted away in a cell his entire life. That's the far harsher penalty, and it leaves room for his release on the infinitesimal chance that his conviction is overturned in light of new evidence.
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Good I hope its a painful execution.
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I'd say give him LWOP leave him to rot in his cell old and forgotten. The way people like him should be. The Death Penalty would just put him back in the limelight.
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The punishment should be death. I'm not concerned about making him a martyr, I don't think that would happen. Nobody gives a shit about these two losers. Yes, the WMD charges are appropriate. The two bombs fit the definition and the attack resulted in over 200 people injured/killed.
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