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Are Pedophilia and Lolicon the same thing?
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I've seen people online say stuff like "it's fine they're just 2D characters" but, logically they're still children(lolis) so wouldn't they basically be the samething? But what do you guys think? Is it the same? Or are they totally different?
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Yes.
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it depends, neither of those terms exist outside the collective thoughts of humanity So, your location decides how people will perceive and label you.

Both words mean the same thing ruffly; a sexual attraction to a petite individual, but those words trigger very different reactions when spoken.

marriage to children is still done in some places and is not considered to be an evil thing, but if you are using the internet you most likely aren't in one of those places.


In conclusion; if you enjoy living where you currently do, its best to conform to the collective thought.
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Whooo starting up the same topic that kept me up last night. Im not falling for it this time.
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jacky dont worry, i already have 911 on speed dial
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I think they technically mean the same thing but I don't think slinging around the the terms casually does people any good. Sort of like slinging around "pedo" for laughs and having serious people think you're being serious.

There are, indeed, people who like young anime girls but who do not like real life young kid girls. I don't think there's a term for this but I could be wrong.
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tridragon1 wrote:

I've seen people online say stuff like "it's fine they're just 2D characters" but, logically they're still children(lolis) so wouldn't they basically be the samething? But what do you guys think? Is it the same? Or are they totally different?


Are you saying there's something wrong with liking children?
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one is a term reserved for real life, and is a crime on most civilized countries
the second one is reserved for drawings of fictional characters and is generally looked down upon.
note that the group consisting of pedos and the group consisting of lolicons are not the same, though they may overlap.
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Some lolicons are pedophiles, and some pedophiles are lolicons, but it doesn't always overlap. So far as I know, lolicon is the primary term for pedophile in Japan, but I could be wrong.

I've met plenty of lolicons who hate real children, and I've met plenty of pedophiles who dislike the anime style enough to not like loli. The characters often have features that aren't very childlike, like wide hips.

I'm pretty passionate about issues surrounding this, as many here undoubtedly saw last night. I tried to keep my ranting here to a minimum, but I'd like to throw this out there: pedophilia doesn't make someone bad per se.

Edit, for the post directly before mine: pedophilia is not a crime. Do not conflate child sexual abuse with pedophilia.

Another edit, since people may not understand: the act of abusing a child is horrible, immoral, and a crime. Pedophilia is not the same as child sexual abuse, and it is an attraction that cannot be changed. That is why pedophilia does not make someone bad per se.
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i meant that possession of pedophile material is considered a crime
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Schmooples wrote:

Some lolicons are pedophiles, and some pedophiles are lolicons, but it doesn't always overlap. So far as I know, lolicon is the primary term for pedophile in Japan, but I could be wrong.

I've met plenty of lolicons who hate real children, and I've met plenty of pedophiles who dislike the anime style enough to not like loli. The characters often have features that aren't very childlike, like wide hips.

I'm pretty passionate about issues surrounding this, as many here undoubtedly saw last night. I tried to keep my ranting here to a minimum, but I'd like to throw this out there: pedophilia doesn't make someone bad per se.

Edit, for the post directly before mine: pedophilia is not a crime. Do not conflate child sexual abuse with pedophilia.


Want to run around in circles again.
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namealreadytaken wrote:

i meant that possession of pedophile material is considered a crime


Child pornography is a crime. In some places, simulated child pornography (like loli or erotic fiction) is a crime. There is no pedophile material.
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Siiiiiiiiiigh......7th time this has come up in three days. Is this the only topic some people are focusing on?
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Schmooples wrote:
Child pornography is a crime. In some places, simulated child pornography (like loli or erotic fiction) is a crime. There is no pedophile material.

photographs, videos, etc of underage kids with little to no clothes. that's what i meant by material.
there is material on the web, but it's of course very illegal.

edit: by illegal, i mean it: you will get caught, and you will be thrown in jail for possession no questions asked.
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