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Post Reply if the cure for cancer was illegal, would you break the law to save a loved one?
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Let's say the cure was a magical fruit you could grow in your backyard for free
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Yep.
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Of course.
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No, I'd let them die a miserable painful death alone, or in the arms of a total stranger.
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I'll help them steal it themselves... from another grower of this fruit..umm, i'll ignore the first post lol.
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Why would it be illegal? I mean, after all, scientists test all kinds of currently illegal to possess things in attempts to treat cancer. Doctors put years of their lives and tons of money into being able to help people. You'd think they'd lobby to make sure those cures were available.

And please remember, there's no "cure" for cancer. They kill cancer, mostly by poisoning the patient. Cancer cells metabolize everything faster (thus why PT scans work, the radioactive sugars are absorbed by the cancer cells first. It's why they have you close your eyes and relax as much as possible while your body absorbs them), so they eat poison faster as well. My treatment was basically monitored heavy metal poisoning, when you get down to it, but one of my chemo buddies was getting a form of arsenic. Different sets of drugs are used to kill off different cancers, but they're pretty much all poisons.

I know I keep hearing about things like marijuana "cures", natural diet "cures", and so on.. but when you dig into them, they tend to be full of hot air, with no actual research to back the claims up.
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Of course, easily.
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It's not the matter of legality which makes me hesitate to say I'd eat that fruit or give it to someone with cancer, it's that I know absolutely nothing about why it's illegal. Maybe the fruit is endangered and researchers are working on isolating the active component so that it may be manufactured, maybe consumption of the fruit has serious deleterious side effects which are just as bad as terminal cancer, maybe the fruit's clinical effectiveness hasn't been established for cancer patients and the people telling me it's a magic fruit that cures cancer are questionable, there must be some reason that someone had the nerve to stand before a legislature and propose that consumption of this fruit be banned. No government on Earth is stupid enough to ban a clinically safe and effective, renewable, easily obtained cure for the various cancers which has absolutely no manufacturing cost. Maybe Dr. Doom would do that, but no real world leader would.
Posted 4/10/15 , edited 4/10/15

MakotoKamui wrote:

Why would it be illegal? I mean, after all, scientists test all kinds of currently illegal to possess things in attempts to treat cancer. Doctors put years of their lives and tons of money into being able to help people. You'd think they'd lobby to make sure those cures were available.

And please remember, there's no "cure" for cancer. They kill cancer, mostly by poisoning the patient. Cancer cells metabolize everything faster (thus why PT scans work, the radioactive sugars are absorbed by the cancer cells first. It's why they have you close your eyes and relax as much as possible while your body absorbs them), so they eat poison faster as well. My treatment was basically monitored heavy metal poisoning, when you get down to it, but one of my chemo buddies was getting a form of arsenic. Different sets of drugs are used to kill off different cancers, but they're pretty much all poisons.

I know I keep hearing about things like marijuana "cures", natural diet "cures", and so on.. but when you dig into them, they tend to be full of hot air, with no actual research to back the claims up.


I'm sorry you had to go through that. Cancer runs in my family on both sides, so its something I worry about; my mother has had lumps removed, and my grandmother on my father's side died from breast cancer. I don't particulary like thinking about it, but I try to stay healthy and get routine mammograms.

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digimonfan4eva wrote:

Let's say the cure was a magical fruit you could grow in your backyard for free


magic cure is exist.well since me from Indonesia.Soursop tree.local Indonesian name was sirsak.was anti cancer too.even on leaf part.can cure more than 14 type cancer at once.without kill living healthy cell.or indonesian herbal drink or local say jamu.alot ingredient.but all same magic cancer healing.

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Dark_Childe wrote:

I'm sorry you had to go through that. Cancer runs in my family on both sides, so its something I worry about; my mother has had lumps removed, and my grandmother on my father's side died from breast cancer. I don't particulary like thinking about it, but I try to stay healthy and get routine mammograms.



Honestly, I'm glad I got cancer when I did. I know, sounds crazy, but they were able to hit me with really harsh chemo, which they wouldn't be comfortable trying on me even now. No fun to think about, but do get regular checkups, especially with your family history (my grandpa and I were chemo buddies - twice, though he passed away after the second - so I know a little of what you mean there). They're always getting better at detecting cancer, and the one true thing about it is that the sooner it's detected, the easier it is to deal with.



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magic cure is exist.well since me from Indonesia.Soursop tree.local Indonesian name was sirsak.was anti cancer too.even on leaf part.can cure more than 14 type cancer at once.without kill living healthy cell.or indonesian herbal drink or local say jamu.alot ingredient.but all same magic cancer healing.



I don't know what you were trying to say, but I doubt it was related to peer reviewed research.
Posted 4/10/15 , edited 4/13/15
you should have said something like, what if the cure was a "5 month old faetus"... would you kill it to cure a loved one?

And my answer would have been no. Things are illegal for a reason.
what if the magic tree releases poisons into the atmosphere that could kill off other animals.

I think if there's no proper reason for why it's illegal, my answer would be changed to yes. But if the cure affects other organisms, then you have to weigh that into your decision making.
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After watching my mother die a slow very painful death,(pancreatic cancer). Not only would use it, but I would seriously consider using a hammer to find out what's in the heads of those who would deny others a cure.
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Posted 4/10/15 , edited 4/13/15

digimonfan4eva wrote:

Let's say the cure was a magical fruit you could grow in your backyard for free


Hmm

1) Illegal
2) Can grow it
3) Cancer

I wonder where you are really trying to go with this
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