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Silly Otakus, Anime's For Kids!(?)
Posted 4/11/15 , edited 4/11/15
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Anime is short for animation. But, that doesn't necessarily mean the dreaded C word.....



Or does it?

Personally, I see no real issue with calling anime that, as in our "Western terminology", it's what it would fall under.

The only issue that arises with using that word is, in the West, it's usually limited to shows watched by kids (usually), or any sort of animated content (more like the word should be), which to someone who is inept with the theory of anime, it may seem anime is usually for kids.

But is it?

I'm not sure you're all aware, but Disney Channel isn't only a US thing. Disney Channel exists in multiple countries, like India, France, and Japan.

The programming on Disney Channel Japan is mostly imported from here in the US, with the shows being dubbed over. However, there is some anime as well. What anime is there?

K-On and Love Live!

Here in the West, both these series are not solely seen as for kids, if for kids in any respect. In my own experience, well over 70% of the fans of both are men, in their teens, twenties, thirties, etc. It may come as a shock to them to know that an anime like Love Live! is not only seen as but programmed for children. This is also the same in Japan, where fans of Love Live! and other "children shows" are comprised of adult men.

There's plenty of genres of anime/manga that reach out to certain demographics and ages. Seinen is for adults, more so for men who are old enough to read Kanji, shonen is for teenaged boys, shojo for girls, josei is for teenaged/adult women, yaoi/yuri is for the perv in us all

This all raises the question, when people say anime is a child oriented thing, are they right? Here in the US, anime is seen as the dreaded C word, and we tend to lump it together, which I really think does make sense.

My personal opinion is that we have the same sort of structure here in the West. For example, my three favorite animated TV shows of all time.

• Family Guy
• King of the Hill
• The Simpsons



While these shows are watched by adults, they're also watched by kids and teens.

Also, this may be more abstract, but you look at the classic cartoons here in the West, from the 70's and 80's, and we call them cartoons while the themes are more or less the same in a lot of ways.



TL;DR - Anime is suited for children sometimes, and can be seen as cartoons in the West, but it's not an ultimate.
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Ladies and gentlemen... That's what you call a stereotype
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Ladies and gentlemen... That's what you call a stereotype


I didn't even talk about stereotypes
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Posted 4/11/15 , edited 4/12/15

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TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen... That's what you call a stereotype


I didn't even talk about stereotypes


"anime is for kids" is a stereotype, so technically you were. But in a indirect way
Posted 4/11/15

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AiYumega wrote:


TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:

Ladies and gentlemen... That's what you call a stereotype


I didn't even talk about stereotypes


"anime is for kids" is a stereotype, so technically you were


That's not even close to a stereotype. Read what I wrote and you'll see you're missing my point.
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Posted 4/11/15 , edited 4/11/15
Pretty sure the word 'anime' is in the English dictionary, so there's no need to use the word cartoons.
Even Japanese children can read Kanji (at lower level) so I don't know what your Seinen comment is about.
The western parallels to anime which you listed are nothing like anime. They're just cartoons for adults. Anime is very different from western cartoons, so why do you need comparison. Obviously, everyone on this website will say "anime's not just for kids" even the kids will say it.
I don't understand the reasoning behind starting this thread.



EDIT to clarify this post with quotations.


when people say anime is a child oriented thing, are they right?


This is where you asked about anime being for kids.


My personal opinion is that we have the same sort of structure here in the West. For example, my three favorite animated TV shows of all time.


This is where you talked about Western parallels to anime.


Seinen is for adults, more so for men who are old enough to read Kanji


This is where you said men old enough to read kanji.
Japanese children begin learning their kanji from ages 3-4, but slow learners may learn it from ages 6-7.
These children aren't considered to be men or women.
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It's pretty obvious anime like Love Live! are for kids. It's just over here in the west not many children (6-10) watch anime so any anime with a fanbase will probably have one of teens and young adults.
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That's like me pointing to some parts of music, movies and saying 'those are for kids'. Really who cares what other people think, they probably watch shit and listen to shit so let them live their boring life.
Posted 4/11/15 , edited 4/11/15

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seinen_manga



And also, did I say all anime was made for kids? No. I didn't say that at all. And did I say the shows I listed were like anime? Other than the 70's cartoons, no I didnt.


I dont understand the reasoning for you even commenting honestly, as you seem to be angry over nothing, and over things you misread or took differently. And I'm free to make any thread I'd like, so honestly, you can speak your opinion, but keep the crassness out please.
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Anyone who generalizes any form of entertainment as something aimed at one age group is ****ing retarded.

There are many genres under the branch of "animation"

Western animation (cartoons) are aimed at all age groups, there are shows aimed at adults and shows aimed at children

Japanese Animation (anime) are aimed at all age groups, there are some shows aimed at adults and some aimed at children.

Just like there are many different movies aimed at different age groups.

There seems to be a belief among the old fogies of the west that predetermine anything with no real actors as "for children". I believe this to be attributed to their sense of superiority and lack of imagination.

Also, yes cartoons and anime are both animations. However, their names differ based on country of origin. Anime is the legit Japanese term used to describe anything animated and or originating (as some studio's outsource their animation to south korean studios) in japan (no its not anime because it has 'mature' story aspects and has 'deep' plot-lines, its literally called anime because its from japan; yes their are aspects that are extremely common among japanese animation, however it is not anime simply because it has those traits.).

Cartoon is the term used to define any animation originating from europe and the western world.
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why is cartoons the Dreaded C word? i loved star wars , transformers and voltron as a kid. some of my Favorite Dreaded Cartoons :p

I really don't care what people think, especially when it comes to what i enjoy doing/watching etc. So just enjoy your cartoons/anime and be glad its still being made.
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Ok I am making a change in the order of things here as well. My grandma that Im taking care of keeps saying cartoons and anime are for kids so at the time Attack on Titan was airing first on Toonami and I would turn it on with her in the room and during the first episode I looked at her and ask "Do you really see this as a kids show?" Now she doesnt say that Im watching Kiddy shows unless its family guy or american dad. I have yet to prove her wrong on those ones.
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K-ON! and K-ON!! are my favorite shows. I don't care if it was seen as a kid show or not. I'll love it regardless of my age.
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Posted 4/11/15 , edited 4/11/15
Lastly an extension on my original post (would rather make a separate post since its two different trains of thought and my original post is long enough as it is)

The only reason why Japanese animation features the traits of a complex story that spans an entire season is because thats what the market demands.

Original Japanese animation from the early 50's and 60's followed a similar format as now, however there were alot of shows that were also inspired by the original Walt Disney cartoons.

If the west had less of a stigma to animation and had a larger market for it, there would be quite a bit of cartoons that were nearly the same in quality as japanese animation.

This is another reason why more anime is aimed at teens to adults. Thus making it on average, more mature. The market for cartoons in the west is dominated by children, while the market for anime in japan is dominated by teens and adults.

which is why alot of un-knowledgeable people who are not familiar with anime consider it to be the same as most western animation in the sense of its targeted age group.
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