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Posted 4/11/15 , edited 4/11/15
Hmm.. i'm generally not all that curious of a person so it's all a bit of a " meh". In fact, i'd read anything just for the heck of it but i wouldnt care so much about believing or picking a side.
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People that actually believe 9/11 was legit are the worst . As if the reinforced steel carbon and bixolyte components could be melted by anything under 4000*Degrees Fahrenheit . There were traces of termite found in the rubble and there are many bystanders that reported hearing detonations and explosions level by level as there is also video fact where you can clearly spot the detonations level by level as the building crumbles . The american association of architects and engineers reports that it was a government conspiracy and termite component bombs were used to proceed JUST LIKE in a controlled demolition . Also 2 planes 3 buildings . How idiotic must you be to just swallow senseless lies just because of public majority approval ? Everyone thought the earth was flat ( even the all mighty knowledgeable religious elites ) before does that mean it is necessarily true ?
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i don't know, I will listen to the conspiracies and keep them into my mind but i dont know whether i believe them or not. Theres this one conspiracy story keeps me thinking: a famous time traveler named John Titor has said that there might be a nuclear war in 2015 and half of the population will die. I don't know whether this is true or not but I am keeping track with the news and everything but, the ways things are going on the news...It might happen and I am really scared of that.


Maybe the accuracy of his other predictions will reassure you?
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orange-chan wrote:

i don't know, I will listen to the conspiracies and keep them into my mind but i dont know whether i believe them or not. Theres this one conspiracy story keeps me thinking: a famous time traveler named John Titor has said that there might be a nuclear war in 2015 and half of the population will die. I don't know whether this is true or not but I am keeping track with the news and everything but, the ways things are going on the news...It might happen and I am really scared of that.


Steins;Gate totally disproved this. We're all safe now.

Best theory that I've heard?

AIDS was part of an eoffort to suppress anti-vietnam sentiments.

First outbreaks appeared in the 70's, approximately the same number of years after the "summer of love (1969) as its incubation period.


I like conspiracy theories and occultist theories as plot lines in stories (also check out Occult Academy for some of that if you like it), but as for real life theorists... They're generally paranoid and stupid people spouting them.

also watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hug0rfFC_L8
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Posted 4/11/15
Conspiracy theorists are annoying, especially if they're very vocal about it. Especially those that deny facts. Talking with them is like playing chess against a chicken. I could make as much complex strategies and pull as many facts as possible, they would jump on the table, knock over the pieces, and strut around like they own the place. Seriously, it's ridiculous. It makes me think that these conspiracy theorists are part of the government cover-up to prevent us from knowing the truth about anything.
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i like them they amuse me


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This thread is a conspiracy.


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I don't believe in most conspiracy theories, but I do believe in one. I honestly believe that the U.S. Government assassinated John F. Kennedy.

I'm not being wacko. During the height of the cold war, JFK received this ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods ) on his desk, which he vetoed. By vetoing this he prevented an actual war but prolonged the cold war. The next year he was assassinated. That's already fishy, but when you consider what the government was willing to do with the actual operation it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for them to pull a stunt like that.

Plus, that was only somewhat recently declassified, who knows what else is classified? And since they already considered faking terrorist attacks against US civilians to go to war, the people who say the Government did 9/11 don't sound as crazy now, do they?
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oodain wrote:


jordancharacter wrote:

I find them annoying. Even if there is a conspiracy going on behind the scenes, it doesn't really matter. So what if the moon landing was faked? So what if the government is spying on us? So what if there are aliens at area 51? Makes no difference to me.

I think the only conspiracies I would believe are the really far-fetched ones, such as people claiming to be time travelers ( looking at you Steins;Gate). Still wouldn't care though, as it doesn't concern me.



what does concern you?


@OP hmm conspiracy theories have been "proven" before, there certainly does exist real conspiracies in the classical sense, none of that is related to moon landing hoaxes, flat earthers, hollow earth theorists or any other pseudo-scientific BS for that matter.
critical point here is that these things arent BS because they are conspiracies but because of the inherent lack of meaning many of them have, just like any other pseudoscience.


Hm, things that would directly affect the lives or lifestyle of others. For example, I wouldn't care if our government became a dictatorship, as long as people could live simply and happily. But if our government was going out of their way to make our lives miserable, then I would certainly care.

Things like spying, moon landing faking, and hiding aliens, if true, are done for our own good. So, whether or not it is happening should not make me worried, right?


At the very least, you would have to accept that domestic surveillance is a dangerous, dangerous route for a government to take, and thus should be opposed. Even if they don't do it initially, any data collected could be used to suppress people who aren't really "bad guys." Things aren't really quite so black and white that they would only oppress and persecute villains.

Take for example the Red Scare. At that time, communists were greatly feared for what was an innocent political ideology. If at that time the government had available the means to spy on the public as efficiently as they do now, many innocent people would have been ruined. Imprisonment, persecution, or even just personal attacks and slander at the hands of their neighbors: that is what we have to fear from government spying.

This applies to any time period. Currently, pedophiles are the boogeymen. Before them were communists, gays, witches, pagans, et cetera.
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jordancharacter wrote:


oodain wrote:


jordancharacter wrote:

I find them annoying. Even if there is a conspiracy going on behind the scenes, it doesn't really matter. So what if the moon landing was faked? So what if the government is spying on us? So what if there are aliens at area 51? Makes no difference to me.

I think the only conspiracies I would believe are the really far-fetched ones, such as people claiming to be time travelers ( looking at you Steins;Gate). Still wouldn't care though, as it doesn't concern me.



what does concern you?


@OP hmm conspiracy theories have been "proven" before, there certainly does exist real conspiracies in the classical sense, none of that is related to moon landing hoaxes, flat earthers, hollow earth theorists or any other pseudo-scientific BS for that matter.
critical point here is that these things arent BS because they are conspiracies but because of the inherent lack of meaning many of them have, just like any other pseudoscience.


Hm, things that would directly affect the lives or lifestyle of others. For example, I wouldn't care if our government became a dictatorship, as long as people could live simply and happily. But if our government was going out of their way to make our lives miserable, then I would certainly care.

Things like spying, moon landing faking, and hiding aliens, if true, are done for our own good. So, whether or not it is happening should not make me worried, right?


At the very least, you would have to accept that domestic surveillance is a dangerous, dangerous route for a government to take, and thus should be opposed. Even if they don't do it initially, any data collected could be used to suppress people who aren't really "bad guys." Things aren't really quite so black and white that they would only oppress and persecute villains.

Take for example the Red Scare. At that time, communists were greatly feared for what was an innocent political ideology. If at that time the government had available the means to spy on the public as efficiently as they do now, many innocent people would have been ruined. Imprisonment, persecution, or even just personal attacks and slander at the hands of their neighbors: that is what we have to fear from government spying.

This applies to any time period. Currently, pedophiles are the boogeymen. Before them were communists, gays, witches, pagans, et cetera.



It is a bit difficult for me to understand why people are so sensitive to things like privacy from the government, but I am also the kind of person who wouldn't mind giving up a majority of my rights for safety and security. Your example does hold true though, and if I did know of anyone who was a victim of such a thing, I would support them in a heartbeat. But, the difference between pedophiles and all the other groups you listed is that a very large amount of them actually do hurt people, directly or indirectly, and surveillance seems like it is key to preventing such crimes from ever taking place. Of course, people could be framed for it, but I think being able to stop children from getting hurt in the first place much out-weighs a possibility.
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jordancharacter wrote:


Schmooples wrote:

At the very least, you would have to accept that domestic surveillance is a dangerous, dangerous route for a government to take, and thus should be opposed. Even if they don't do it initially, any data collected could be used to suppress people who aren't really "bad guys." Things aren't really quite so black and white that they would only oppress and persecute villains.

Take for example the Red Scare. At that time, communists were greatly feared for what was an innocent political ideology. If at that time the government had available the means to spy on the public as efficiently as they do now, many innocent people would have been ruined. Imprisonment, persecution, or even just personal attacks and slander at the hands of their neighbors: that is what we have to fear from government spying.

This applies to any time period. Currently, pedophiles are the boogeymen. Before them were communists, gays, witches, pagans, et cetera.



It is a bit difficult for me to understand why people are so sensitive to things like privacy from the government, but I am also the kind of person who wouldn't mind giving up a majority of my rights for safety and security. Your example does hold true though, and if I did know of anyone who was a victim of such a thing, I would support them in a heartbeat. But, the difference between pedophiles and all the other groups you listed is that a very large amount of them actually do hurt people, directly or indirectly, and surveillance seems like it is key to preventing such crimes from ever taking place. Of course, people could be framed for it, but I think being able to stop children from getting hurt in the first place much out-weighs a possibility.


It is necessary for all to stand together to prevent a position in which some could be harassed or persecuted. Say the government one day decided to throw Christians (or whatever religion you identify with) in jail and beat them. Them monitoring you internet and phone connections today would allow them to know later on that you were one, even if you began to hide it after such a policy was announced.

Also, a majority of pedophiles do not abuse children, and most sex offenders with crimes against children are not pedophiles. In fact, only about 35% of them are, and their crimes are usually related to child pornography, which in many jurisdictions includes cartoons and literature. Domestic monitoring does little to nothing to prevent actual rape, and the LEA already has the means to investigate child pornography rings; they don't need to monitor the general public.
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Posted 4/11/15

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Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.


I hate to point this out to you but you don't need to melt steel to have it fail. All you need to do is reach a temperature of 800 degrees C or above for structural steel to fail. Jet fuel combined with the other burnable materials are more than enough to get you there. Than you just let gravity and weight take it's course and you get the pancaking that happened.
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I don't believe in most conspiracy theories, but I do believe in one. I honestly believe that the U.S. Government assassinated John F. Kennedy.

I'm not being wacko. During the height of the cold war, JFK received this ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods ) on his desk, which he vetoed. By vetoing this he prevented an actual war but prolonged the cold war. The next year he was assassinated. That's already fishy, but when you consider what the government was willing to do with the actual operation it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility for them to pull a stunt like that.

Plus, that was only somewhat recently declassified, who knows what else is classified? And since they already considered faking terrorist attacks against US civilians to go to war, the people who say the Government did 9/11 don't sound as crazy now, do they?


Put this right here enjoy the read.

http://legacyofsecrecy.com/
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I do believe that most people do overlook everything and don't question a thing but that doesn't mean that jews are evil, jews are great.
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I believe that skepticism (conspiracy leanings included) is good for discouraging exploitation, but, as with anything else, extremes are problematic.

Of course, conspiracy theories can be absolute hogwash, and they can be fed to people as manipulation tactics.
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This thread is propaganda to make us underestimate the Illuminati. Down with the NWO! Our goddess Madoka will save us from these reptiles!
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