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Who are the worst/dumbest protesters/activists ever
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Westboro Baptist Church. It's people like them that make everyone think that all Christians are total bigots and completely hateful.


I don't know... I mean... biblically they kind of have a point

What sounds more logical
"God hates gays so he sends them to hell"
or
"God loves gays, but hates gay sex, so as a result he sets gay on fire... forever.. but you know.. he doesn't really hate them, he just hates their sin"

See what I mean, I kind of find the idea of the Christian God being all loving to be way less likely than anything the WBC says.
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Geeze, I'm probably already "that guy," on here, and I really hate to keep harping on this (particularly when people will only dislike me for the views), but I can't stand by and let people dump on a group for no good reason. So far as I'm aware, the primary goal on NAMBLA and organizations like it was to inform people of what it truly is to be a pedophile (rather than scary, faceless predators) to hopefully end the unjust hatred. .


NAMBLA STARTED with that as it's goal. Since then the higher ups, including the founder, have come out and rallied against ANY age of consent laws as well as trying to define what's consentual and non consentual as well as saying that non consentual is ok...as long as it doesn't leave long lasting damage. Sooooo yeah.

Truth, pedophilia is the mental attraction but NAMBLA and its supporters are trying to make it appear in a way that threatens to blur the lines between attraction and action. THAT is where the problem lies.

And with that I'm bowing out of the NAMBLA/Pedo thing. Disgusting all around and even talking about it in a logical debate makes me feel like I need a shower.


They do oppose AoC, but that isn't the same thing as supporting rape. So far as I could find, they haven't said anything approving of sexual advances or actions that were not consented to.

Most pedophile communities actively denounce rape and sexual harassment. Some of those communities, however, believe that children have the ability to consent and feel that AoC laws should be reformed. Whether or not they are correct in that matter is another thing, but it is entirely difference from supporting rape or blurring the lines between the consensual and non-consensual. Any time that someone within such a community says something supportive of rape, so far as I've ever seen, they are thrown out and denounced.
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Child molesters think they can use the same argument as gays...

Here's why I'm afraid for this country...
Say a child molester, but I'm not physically hurtful, so the child likes it...

Too a Child Molester, a kid saying, "Yes", is consent... which is fucked up to any logical thinking person.
However, now they have an oppurtunity to play the victim, and no matter how fucked up you are... stupid extreme leftist americans will sympathize with you. They can point to the gay movement and say they're accomplishing the same thing as they did.

I'm not comparing gays and pedophiles... but 50 years ago, the idea of gay marriage was as ridiculous as the idea of legalized pedophilia is now
(AGAIN. NOT COMPARING THEM. I'M SAYING THAT THIS IS HOW CHILD MOLESTERS SEE IT)

Basically, while I'm not against gay marriage, I will say that it shows that even the most taboo things can happen in America. So do not completely discount the idea of legalized child molestation.
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When factoring in ideology, actions and numbers, there isn't anyone else (at least from an American perspective) who can measure up to these guys.
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It wasn't a protest of any significant size. Mostly extremely religious folk who thought that football shouldn't be played on Sunday. Stuff like this happens all the time over here, Northern Ireland is a very backward country. Recently there was a bakery who refused to bake a cake promoting gay marriage and all hell broke loose lol.
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It wasn't a protest of any significant size. Mostly extremely religious folk who thought that football shouldn't be played on Sunday. Stuff like this happens all the time over here, Northern Ireland is a very backward country. Recently there was a bakery who refused to bake a cake promoting gay marriage and all hell broke loose lol.


I see... what happened to that bakery?

Honestly, I don't see them as the bad guy. I think they were just standing up for their own business. Now the activists who go agaisnt them, are slime...
I mean... these "tolerant" people like to put these business's all over the news and arrange massive boycotts... I mean.. To what end? What do you gain by pushing some non-name mom and pop store out of business? I thought liberals were about the little guy? Guess not.

I mean... someone who revels in seeing a person lose their livelihood over the owners beliefs is well... those peopel need to truely ask who the real bigot is.

According to some list, Ireland was supposed to be one of the most libertarian countries out there. I'd hope they'd live up to that claim and support that business owner.

To be honest, I'd like to donate to some of these business's as I see them as just being the true victims, while the ver
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Child molesters think they can use the same argument as gays...

Here's why I'm afraid for this country...
Say a child molester, but I'm not physically hurtful, so the child likes it...

Too a Child Molester, a kid saying, "Yes", is consent... which is fucked up to any logical thinking person.
However, now they have an oppurtunity to play the victim, and no matter how fucked up you are... stupid extreme leftist americans will sympathize with you. They can point to the gay movement and say they're accomplishing the same thing as they did.

I'm not comparing gays and pedophiles... but 50 years ago, the idea of gay marriage was as ridiculous as the idea of legalized pedophilia is now
(AGAIN. NOT COMPARING THEM. I'M SAYING THAT THIS IS HOW CHILD MOLESTERS SEE IT)

Basically, while I'm not against gay marriage, I will say that it shows that even the most taboo things can happen in America. So do not completely discount the idea of legalized child molestation.


Pedophilia is legal. Pedophile =/= child molester. Seriously, stop confusing the two, because there is a massive difference.

And just so you know, a majority of those on the left do not support a reduction of the AoC. In fact, a larger number of people on the right do - libertarians, for example.
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Akumanomi wrote:

Westboro Baptist Church. It's people like them that make everyone think that all Christians are total bigots and completely hateful.


I don't know... I mean... biblically they kind of have a point

What sounds more logical
"God hates gays so he sends them to hell"
or
"God loves gays, but hates gay sex, so as a result he sets gay on fire... forever.. but you know.. he doesn't really hate them, he just hates their sin"

See what I mean, I kind of find the idea of the Christian God being all loving to be way less likely than anything the WBC says.


If that's what you want to believe, ok, fine. But what I've been taught and believe is that the Christian god loves everyone, unconditionally. If that wasn't true, believe me, we would've all been killed thousands of times over. There are soooo many more worse things than being gay.
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silversongwriter wrote:

Child molesters think they can use the same argument as gays...

Here's why I'm afraid for this country...
Say a child molester, but I'm not physically hurtful, so the child likes it...

Too a Child Molester, a kid saying, "Yes", is consent... which is fucked up to any logical thinking person.
However, now they have an oppurtunity to play the victim, and no matter how fucked up you are... stupid extreme leftist americans will sympathize with you. They can point to the gay movement and say they're accomplishing the same thing as they did.

I'm not comparing gays and pedophiles... but 50 years ago, the idea of gay marriage was as ridiculous as the idea of legalized pedophilia is now
(AGAIN. NOT COMPARING THEM. I'M SAYING THAT THIS IS HOW CHILD MOLESTERS SEE IT)

Basically, while I'm not against gay marriage, I will say that it shows that even the most taboo things can happen in America. So do not completely discount the idea of legalized child molestation.


Pedophilia is legal. Pedophile =/= child molester. Seriously, stop confusing the two, because there is a massive difference.

And just so you know, a majority of those on the left do not support a reduction of the AoC. In fact, a larger number of people on the right do - libertarians, for example.


You're right... my bad.
I myself love lolicon, so yes, I should not make the mistake for saying pedophiles are child molesters

And I myself support a reduction in the AOC... but of course, I'm reasonable. I say about... hmm... 16.
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If that's what you want to believe, ok, fine. But what I've been taught and believe is that the Christian god loves everyone, unconditionally. If that wasn't true, believe me, we would've all been killed thousands of times over. There are soooo many more worse things than being gay.


Honestly, to me, he just seems like a tyrant...

killing babies, sending millions to hell for really petty reasons, ording women to be raped, taking children as slaves....
I mean...

In fact, the NT was where they really started talking about hell, so to me, it's more cruel than the OT
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And another thread turns to pedophilia, child molestation and belief bashing...

Well, nice while it lasted.

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Schmooples wrote:

Pedophilia is legal. Pedophile =/= child molester. Seriously, stop confusing the two, because there is a massive difference.

And just so you know, a majority of those on the left do not support a reduction of the AoC. In fact, a larger number of people on the right do - libertarians, for example.


You're right... my bad.
I myself love lolicon, so yes, I should not make the mistake for saying pedophiles are child molesters

And I myself support a reduction in the AOC... but of course, I'm reasonable. I say about... hmm... 16.


Thank you for seeing the difference. It is an important distinction that many overlook, so I try to inform people when I can. I try not to touch on issues regarding AoC, though, for various reason. The important thing to me is trying to stop bigotry and suffering.
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Akumanomi wrote:

If that's what you want to believe, ok, fine. But what I've been taught and believe is that the Christian god loves everyone, unconditionally. If that wasn't true, believe me, we would've all been killed thousands of times over. There are soooo many more worse things than being gay.


Honestly, to me, he just seems like a tyrant...

killing babies, sending millions to hell for really petty reasons, ording women to be raped, taking children as slaves....
I mean...

In fact, the NT was where they really started talking about hell, so to me, it's more cruel than the OT


I can't help you with that. I honestly can't explain it. Ummm... well if you really do want answers you could go to a church... I guess... I don't know, I'm not an expert on this stuff. Oh well.
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I can't help you with that. I honestly can't explain it. Ummm... well if you really do want answers you could go to a church... I guess... I don't know, I'm not an expert on this stuff. Oh well.


I don't really believe in that stuff...
But I will say the opinions of the WBC isnt' that rare. There's many christians will the same feelings, it's just that they don't believe in a sin the WBC commits all the time.

Pride... Most true "super fundamentalists" who share the beliefs of the WBC, still hate them for their sheer pridefulness

In the end, even real bigots don't like them.
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HeroPlatypus wrote:

It wasn't a protest of any significant size. Mostly extremely religious folk who thought that football shouldn't be played on Sunday. Stuff like this happens all the time over here, Northern Ireland is a very backward country. Recently there was a bakery who refused to bake a cake promoting gay marriage and all hell broke loose lol.


I see... what happened to that bakery?

Honestly, I don't see them as the bad guy. I think they were just standing up for their own business. Now the activists who go agaisnt them, are slime...
I mean... these "tolerant" people like to put these business's all over the news and arrange massive boycotts... I mean.. To what end? What do you gain by pushing some non-name mom and pop store out of business? I thought liberals were about the little guy? Guess not.

I mean... someone who revels in seeing a person lose their livelihood over the owners beliefs is well... those peopel need to truely ask who the real bigot is.

According to some list, Ireland was supposed to be one of the most libertarian countries out there. I'd hope they'd live up to that claim and support that business owner.

To be honest, I'd like to donate to some of these business's as I see them as just being the true victims, while the ver




When I said "promoting gay marriage" that was probably a bit strong. I believe it was a cake for a gay wedding featuring the characters Bert and Ernie. To be honest I'm not sure what happened, think the whole thing is still ongoing. I would have juat baked the cake to avoid all this shit, but I wouldn't want to see them shut down. Doubt they will close as this country is governed by religion.
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