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"Depends on what you call a "anti-hero"... Is Ange from Cross Ange a hero or an anti-hero. Well, to her companions she is. Her goal is to "destroy this bullshit world", as she says, and make a world where her, Tusk, Normas, and DRAGONs, can live happily.. and to hell with anything else."

Ange was quite willing to take Sylvia with her until Sylvia betrayed her. She also gave all her money to save her favorite human, Momoka.


She views the corrupt society quite differently than she views individuals. Also to be fair to ange the guy was pointing a rifle at her when she shot him.


You're right. I forgot about Momoka

But I think it's her philosophy. "Stand on your own or sit there and die" sort of. She supports the idea of self-reliance in a world where people have been spoiled by magic.

In a way... Peace can corrupt a man as much as war
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It really depends on how they're portrayed, but in general, I prefer a protagonist who respects other peoples' decisions. While valuing life is important, it's secondary to valuing autonomy in my book. Killing someone who has surrendered is evil; killing someone who asks to be killed is good. Yes, good, not neutral or unaligned. I strongly believe that everyone is entitled to their own valuation system of the world, and as a result, that everyone should respect the differences between these valuation systems. Life is not inherently sacred, but choice is, and the vast majority of people don't want to die, so in most cases, I see killing as an evil act.

I like selfish heroes, but when you think about it, that is literally all of them. That is literally everyone who can make choices. The ability to make a choice in itself is selfishness, because whatever option you choose is the one that jives best with your own valuation system. There's nobody who's any more or less selfish than anybody else. That said, I prefer heroes whose values are similar to my own, which generally means "good guys", but can include all manner of antiheroes as well, as long as they respect other peoples' right to make decisions and judgements.

More than any sort of hero, though, I like stories without a hero. Ensembles generally do a much better job of making virtually everyone come across as sympathetic, and that is what I like to see more than anything. The construct of the protagonist places too much of a constriction on the story's values, but with an ensemble, it's far easier to see characters for the self-interested people that they are.
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Evil characters are 9 times out of 10 way cooler than good guys.
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I don't mind "merciless" protagonists, but they're not my favorites. I do prefer the ones who are more "emotional" as you describe them, though I don't think that's the word i'd use. I'm not current on Cross Ange, but i've gotten far enough to see that side of her, and while I think it's fun for the show, it's not a type of character that really sticks with me in the long run.

Contrast that with someone like, as you mentioned, Kenshin. That man has become one of my all-time favorite anime protagonists. In fact, he might be one of my top three male characters. However, it's worth noting that


I just can't sympathize with merciless characters like Ange. They're interesting to watch and are entertaining characters, but the "screw the world, i'm out for myself" attitude isn't very appealing to me. I see enough of that in real life. Not too impressed.

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And it's worth noting that the times I do sympathize with Ange are usually when she's demonstrating her compassion. She's not really completely merciless.
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I'm not really about the uhh everyone has their own value system typed deal.
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Ange is not "evil" nor is she even "merciless" but she has had her heart hardened by a lot a long sequence of events by humans to her after finding her to be a norma. Still if you love that kind of "merciless" character then i guess her series is probably one of the best to watch - the whole anime if full of several characters who dont give a stuff what happens to others as long as the end goal is reached.
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At the end of the day I think it all comes down to how well they're written. I don't inherently love or hate either one, so long as they're written well I'll probably like them... or hate them depending on what the writer wants. I find it a bit of a breath of fresh air when I see someone write a merciless protagonist, but if they're boring or poorly executed then them merely being merciless won't cause me to like them anyway.
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I like anti heroes like Alucard, Revy and Hei but sometimes it gets tiresome.
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