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Posted 4/14/15 , edited 4/15/15

tyranofication wrote:

It's come to my attention that a lot of Americans on the forums seem to think that the UK is England. I'm here to tell you it's not, the UK is made up of 4 countries; Scotland, England, N.Ireland and Wales and they all have their own distinct differences and separate cultures.

In too many situations in real life have i told people i'm from the UK and they have asked me "oh you like tea then?" in a horrible English accent, to which my usual reply is "naw, i'm Scottish" or "Fuck off". And I've actually had a few people say they are "more free" than me because I 'live in a monarchy' when in reality the queen is just a figure head that is used to draw more money into the country (she doesn't actually do anything, she's just basically a celebrity)

I don't want to sound like i'm putting down Americans or anything, but do they not teach them anything about the UK?


You are doing exactly the same thing.

America is made up of 30+ countries and they all " have their own distinct differences and separate cultures".

But people think that America is United States only. Wrong. Brazilians are also Americans, Canadians and Mexicans are also North Americans.

But people from USA say that they are from America which is true and not bad but you should know that America is not only US so in a way, saying "I'm from the UK" could also be confusing, why not say "I'm from Scotland"?

We all have the same problem, not just Americans. :]
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Posted 4/14/15 , edited 4/14/15
SOME Americans don't know where Europe is. Does that affect me in any way? No. Their problem, not yours.

I hope you understand what I want to tell you. I'm not trying to offend anyone.
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I don't remember any lessons that explain what the UK is formed of, if it was ever mentioned it was considered a side-note and we carried on about learning. you cant just blame most americans, it's how they teach here in the US. they don't teach about Scotland and Ireland or even Wales because they don't really consider it "important", unless they are talking about immigration then it gets mentioned, but not by saying they were from the UK.

our school system is weird when teaching history. they've been cutting stuff out of history books and putting more American/English. when they say "world history" it is mainly ancient European history, Asia, and south America. UK kind of got forgotten along the way....

well, at least that's what I got when I was in school and looking through my history books. I learned the history of Ireland by actually doing research on my own.
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Posted 4/14/15

Nalaniel wrote:

SOME Americans don't know where Europe is. Does that affect me in any way? No. Their problem, not yours.

I hope you understand what I want to tell you. I'm not trying to offend anyone.


Don't worry, my friend thought the US was on the right side of the globe, "that big thing" I was like...wtf that's Russia...
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I work in the US in education, and work with educators abroad and I can tell you-- we are really, really ignorant of global politics and basic global geography. We can debate the reasons, but the fact that our people don't know world geography has been surveyed. Americans don't just not know the UK, they don't know squat about other nations. Our relative geographic isolation with two border countries doesn't even begin to justify it. Many US citizens, google the stat if you want it, think that our neighbor Canada is one of the United States.

(My own feeling is that the public ed. system broke when too many people started actually using it, and the local-financing of ed means poor districts get poor educations, and because public funding is directed by politics we get either timid education that avoids ideology or totally ideologically driven content both of which means less discussion of the world, and a cultural shift of the last 100 years that devalues intellect as anti-religion and amoral and elitist. Not that anyone asked my opinion.)

US otaku tend to know WAAAAY more than the average, because they have a sense of the world having other places in it.

(So embarrassed to be from the US when talking to colleagues from South America, or Mexico, or China, or Italy, or Austria. Ugh. So tired.)
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Posted 4/14/15 , edited 4/14/15
I can honestly say that, as far as I'm aware, I'm not acquainted with any 10+ year-old US citizens who aren't aware of the UK not solely being England. I received most of my education in Mississippi, which is considered almost at the bottom of the barrel in terms of US education. In my classes, although we may have hardly put emphasis on outside countries, we damn well addressed enough of the UK for most of my former classmates to have little excuse of the ignorance mentioned in the OP. Goodness, the maps are right f*cking there in our textbooks, and there are libraries and Internet. We may not be taught a whole lot about Europe and whatnot, but, with all that knowledge at our fingertips, there's no reason why people can't get off their butts and research on their own. Sure as hell didn't kill me to do it.
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Posted 4/14/15

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tyranofication wrote:

It's come to my attention that a lot of Americans on the forums seem to think that the UK is England. I'm here to tell you it's not, the UK is made up of 4 countries; Scotland, England, N.Ireland and Wales and they all have their own distinct differences and separate cultures.

In too many situations in real life have i told people i'm from the UK and they have asked me "oh you like tea then?" in a horrible English accent, to which my usual reply is "naw, i'm Scottish" or "Fuck off". And I've actually had a few people say they are "more free" than me because I 'live in a monarchy' when in reality the queen is just a figure head that is used to draw more money into the country (she doesn't actually do anything, she's just basically a celebrity)

I don't want to sound like i'm putting down Americans or anything, but do they not teach them anything about the UK?


You are doing exactly the same thing.

America is made up of 30+ countries and they all " have their own distinct differences and separate cultures".

But people think that America is United States only. Wrong. Brazilians are also Americans, Canadians and Mexicans are also North Americans.

But people from USA say that they are from America which is true and not bad but you should know that America is not only US so in a way, saying "I'm from the UK" could also be confusing, why not say "I'm from Scotland"?

We all have the same problem, not just Americans. :]


That's a good point. I'm familiar with the countries that make up the Americas just don't ask me to list all the states of the USA and identify each state flag. Unfortunately from what I can tell even many people in the USA don't know about the rest of the continent of America or central America or south America. The reality is that many in the USA have no incentive to travel outside of their country after all they could just go visit another state without having to change currency and the basic rules would be the same.
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Posted 4/14/15
Everything I know about the UK I learned from CGP Grey on youtube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10&list=PLLomrg8obDz5tekkOXjE8x8gqfq64B_GT&index=1
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I'm from England, and one of the Americans I attended University with was unaware Scotland and Wales existed, and thought N. Ireland and ROI was just Ireland. He mentioned that the majority of geography teaching in the US is focused on individual states, and that's about it.

Online, I've known people who've thought Scotland is fictional or base their stereotypical view of Scottish people on Scrooge McDuck.

I remember Animaniacs never mentioned Wales. N. Ireland or the ROI in it's "Nations of the World" song. You'd think an educational song would be a bit more comprehensive.

But on the other side of the scale, other Americans have been aware of the countries in the UK, as well as the commonwealth. So I it could be a case of how into how in-depth teachers decide to go.
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Posted 4/14/15
My generation learned it back in the 80's and 90's. The only Americans I've seen with this problems is from about mid to late 90's. Something happened in our educational system where suddenly international history isn't taught or something.
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Posted 4/14/15
Americans are stupid next time to simplify just say I am England's bitch and they will understand. See that was easy.
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I think people need to start being more empathetic or less selfish -_-. People in the UK probably don't all know the difference between the US's federal and state governments.
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Posted 4/14/15
Meh after watching CGP Grey I pretty much got it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNu8XDBSn10
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Posted 4/14/15 , edited 4/14/15
Why single out Americans?

Fuck you.

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I mean...

Go screw yourself, good sir.
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