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Post Reply What do you think would happen if Russia was never involved in WW2
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Posted 4/15/15 , edited 4/15/15
We would have lost.
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Billy Joel would never had written Leningrad and maybe V Force would never have been developed...
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1) Germany would have started by conquering more of Europe if they had kept the peace with Russia (instead of invading) as Germany/Russia had a non-aggressive pact towards each other

2) Germany would have been dug in an entrenched more in Europe causing more losses to the allies. England falls.

3) America develops nukes (as witnessed by nuking Japan). America nukes Germany forcing them to surrender.

So, Germany gains more ground initially, more losses on both sides (especially civilians), Germany eventually gets nuked for the allies to win.

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Sieg heil y'all.
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Outcome probably would have been the same. Just would have took longer and cost a lot more lives.
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What do you think would happen if Russia was never involved in WW2 ?

Ummm . . . I am guessing that you are talking about if the USSR was defeated quickly.... Russia was always a target of Germany for decades before WW2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensraum Lebensraum was one of the more driving reasons for the start of WW2...



MysticGon wrote:

Outcome probably would have been the same. Just would have took longer and cost a lot more lives.


If you don't change the facts of the German search for the A-bomb this would be the case.
When they got a hold of Heisenberg after WW2, I recall that he had stated that they were three to five years from testing a weapon near the end of the war. We probably would have continued our research and the "bomb" would have become a reality at the same time it did... We probably would have used it on German targets like the oilfields of the Middle-east and Russia as well as other supply lines rather than Japan... Being we obliterated German cities with conventional weapons, we probably wouldn't have bothered to use the nukes like we did in Japan... The flip side is that we did the same thing to Japanese cities but still used the "bomb' on them . . . so that is speculation to be taken with a grain of salt... We might have developed thermal-nuclear weapons sooner. The money for lend-lease programs to the USSR would not have been necessary and we would have spent the money on other things.

I don't think the UK would have fallen.... the Germans didn't seem to have much of an amphibious military capacity and dropping paratroopers in the numbers sufficient to bring Brittan down would have been as bad as the siege of Stalingrad, Leningrad and Moscow if not worse. Germany had a serious problem The English Channel....
The Axis just didn't have the resources that we did. Their U-boats were no match for the US Navy and they never had become a naval power that was able to keep up pressure let alone defeat the US. Their two most dangerous battleships were no match for anything the Allies had and I do not recall them ever having aircraft carriers. Japan had a better chance of beating us at sea.... Hell, Japan probably could have beaten Germany at sea. *LOL*

Ramble, ramble . . .
Just something to think about....
Posted 4/15/15
I think things would have played out differently, thats for certain. Germany would have had a much greater chance for success. I don't know if it would necessarily mean the allies would have lost, there would still be a chance for Germany to make mistakes, as they did by backstabbing Russia. (And that was one major mistake.) There would be a much higher probability the allies would lose, and I think they would, although I can't say deifinitively.
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as much as I'd hate to say it, the nazi's would have won. if Hitler never split his troops and waited to invade Russia (or just not try) then they really could have won. him deviding up his forces too much caused the nazi's downfall.
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is CR full of history majors or what
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Sogno- wrote:



is CR full of history majors or what


Speculators. We are speculating.

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We would be speaking German. In my case, I would probably be a slave, as blacks would be treated like cattle under a Hitler like regime.
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They're would be less dead jew's for one because Stalin also killed six million jews.
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Soviet Union would probably still exist, Germany would have conquered a majority of the mainland, UK and Ireland would still be independent as would Switzerland. The United Nations would probably not exist. That being said it was inevitable that the two of them were destined for war. Both Hitler and Stalin wanted more and more land for there resources, hell Russia is still land grabbing where it can get away with it to this day.
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