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How complicated are you? How hypocritical are you?
Posted 4/15/15 , edited 4/15/15
I thought I'd make a thread about complicated people so that some of us, we might can discuss appearances and perceptions ppl tend to discriminate and project upon other people based on politics, religion, or sexuality, often people are up in arms about where they stand in these neat little boxes. Like LGBT should be anti-religious. Religious should be anti-gay. Gays shouldn't be conservative.You can't believe in religion and be rational. If you believe in science you can't be religious. Now I know how ppl have bad experiences that make some choices easier and more harmonious, and they can't understand someone that's divergent , and they think they're hypocrites, they can't believe such a person would exist.

As a woman, I'm bisexual in terms of my attraction to both genders. That and that alone makes me bisexual. I don't date women, but I I have felt attracted to both women and men. As it turns out, I'm religious, but my relationship with god is a personal one. I go to pray, and I leave. What I believe rests within my heart. Anyway, my relationship with my feelings of attraction has given me much grief over the years, and I feel by no right does anyone have to judge me.


So, what about you? Does anyone on here think they don't always fit into these little boxes? Sometimes I feel like a hypocrite just for being who I am inside and it hurts for being honest, never gaining anything from it, but getting the same narrow minded hypocrisy that I should discard my religion and march on washington I know I'm not crazy, do you?
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Posted 4/15/15
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In their own ways, everyone is a hypocrite. I do my best to not be a hypocrite in my own eyes and I'm not always entirely successful, but that's the furthest I can go. It's not as though I can make myself a non-hypocrite in the eyes of everyone else. I constantly evaluate myself and try to change so that I can live up to my own standards. I'm not a hardworking person, but I'll do what needs to be done when push comes to shove.

Most of my opinions seem to be unpopular but I attribute this to my reluctance to take sides. To me, taking a side and defending it is an unacceptable funnel that restricts reason. When I answer, I tend to do so to address the call of the question, not to discredit or disprove other answers. I think people often make things more difficult than they need to be, and people seem to be so occupied with solving problems that they often forget that some cannot be solved and we simply have to grit our teeth and weather the storm. Despite how I'm always harping about how everything is subjective and a balancing act, I take a minimalist approach when dealing with problems and I'm often influenced by more traditionalist values and by tried-and-true stuff.

Of course, this is a mere generalization and I'm aware it doesn't apply to everyone or to everything I do. I can do frivolous stuff, too. Heck, I could be totally wrong about everything and not even realize it.
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I'd like to say that I'm not hypocritical at all, and I don't really think that I am - but I'm not extremely confident in that fact. If anyone could point out an area I've seemed hypocritical in, I would actually be fairly happy - I like to improve myself.

I consider myself religious, but I don't believe in gods, souls, or an afterlife. My religion is a pretty simple one, is compatible with any faith so far as I can tell, but it does hold to dogmas. It is heavily influenced by Stoicism and, to a degree, Taoism. It isn't a very prominent thing for me, but it definitely has an impact. I'm perfectly fine with religion, but I feel that when I ask people about theirs they take it offensively.

I often go back over any views that I have, review evidence and the like, in order to make sure that I'm not merely hanging onto something without any solid evidence or overlooking anything. I'm very careful that my views make sense and don't clash with my other views. Many of my views aren't popular, and some I would never dare to voice in the current social climate. Sometimes I worry that my views aren't real, and that I'm just being edgy or trying to stand out - quite a few people have accused me of it. I don't think that's the case, but I doubt myself just as much as, if not more than, other people. I'm extremely open to having my views and beliefs changed if I were given a piece of evidence or support that was adequate.

I try not to take things too seriously, but there are a few issues I am passionate about. I try not to identify too heavily with any groups, but there are two that I will claim. I also don't judge people on any grounds.

I don't know, talking about myself makes me sad. I may have missed something, but I'm sure that's adequate.
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As far back as I can remember I never really fit in. For many years I tried "riding the bandwagon" but I found that only attracted flaky people.... I have caught myself in hypocrisy a number of times but I think I'm getting clearer of that... though some would disagree.

I've been accused of being gay and it isn't true.... For some reason I manage to get stereo-typed as being the kind of people I have tended to stand up for. I have other issues.
It used to bother me when I was younger but I found that the people who have stereo-typed me were also the ones that turned out to be bigger flakes and hypocrites than me on a bad week. People that I liked and thought were good friends of mine, I should have gone with my first instinct,Their opinion is worthless just as they turned out to be.
(Interestingly, LGBT people I've known seem less judgmental and easier to get along with than most strait people I've known.)

I got a bunch of hate for some relatives of mine, because I found that they were lying about our relationship and it was only because they needed someone to "play."
That is a hard realization to come to after I've been giving these people a pass for most of my life under the illusion that if I liked them they would like me too. They really didn't like it when they were reminded of how big of hypocrites they could be either.

Sorry if I am over-sharing....

I have always only had a few friends . . . not nearly a Hikikomori or anything that reclusive... I don't mind being alone so I don't often go and seek out other people to be around lately.
Part of my trouble is that I tend to bring up the "other" side when people are being confrontational, sometimes regardless of whether I believe in "it" or not.
Also when I was younger most of my relatives didn't know how to make themselves feel good unless they dragged other people down, consequently if I announced that I liked something and someone was around to hear it they would rag about how it was bad or stupid... The other thing was that if I was right about something I wouldn't back down, that is a tough thing to do when the adults around you are stupid, reactionary and telling you that YOU are full of shit. They taught their children well too. I guess that is what a dysfunctional family is.

I try my best not to make a big deal out of things unless some-else dose first and they usually aren't anyone who should be talking down to anyone.... Is it hypocrisy to be angry at the hypocrites? I kind of think it is if you let it consume too much of your time. *ooops*

Generally if I get into an argument I've got three or more things about ONE point going off in my head all at once, so I have to think about things in terms of what is a more salient point and like a chain-reaction each new point brings more ideas until I get a bit frustrated and the next thing I know I'm rambling on about the easiest, simplest things that really don't say all that is necessary. I've noticed people tend to think you are a bit of a dullard if you take the time to formulate a good answer. I guess it's the hazard of living in a "sound bite" world where people get obsessed with catch-phrases and "one-liners' that are supposed to p-own the competition of ideas but it only serves to make people less thoughtful and, like they used to warn us about when I was a kid about watching TV, "It'll make you stupid."

I tend to ramble a bit...
Posted 4/15/15
I'm a very complicated person, I have yet to see someone be able to handle my craziness.
Everybody is a hypocrite in their own way.
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I used to hide the fact I like anime. Stayed away from anyone who openly showed they liked it. I was a major hypocrite about anything that wasn't deemed "cool" around the crowd I partyed with. Hell it took me 2 years to admit to my girlfriend I liked it. I would close the window blinds and everything when i watched it lol. Now I draw it in front of my classmates in college. Openly talk about it in front of my family.

Hypocrisy and denial at it's finest.
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Posted 4/16/15 , edited 4/16/15
I try not to think about how much of anything I am until I feel like I have a way of measuring it.

My thoughts on religion are the same as my thoughts on magic. It's real but not in the sense that it's not beyond science, it is beyond the audience's ability to understand. If it exists, then there much be an explanation.
Or to put it another way, religion is like the fire/water/earth/air table of elements that is obviously based on a lack of information.
This doesn't mean I believe people have a purpose in life, only an explanation of how they came to be.

I don't know if that answers your question
On categorizing people: I think it's ridiculous. 9Bil people should have 9Bil different personalities.
Posted 4/16/15
my mind is a cesspool of despair and also devoid of life. it's nice and safe.
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Sounds like a Pete Seeger song.
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Fitting or not fitting into categories have absolutely nothing to do with hypocrisy.
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As the great Louis C.K said, I have a ton of beliefs and I live by none of them. And I'm about as complicated as complicated can get, but very simple in that I'm a simple person.
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I don't feel like I ever betrayed my philosophies on life because I never used a ready made example, it's always been what ever makes the most sense to me and in constant development.
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I say screw what everyone else has to say, I am my own person.
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Posted 4/17/15
Everyone is a hypocrite, mainly because it's so hard for people to see things from other perspectives so it's easy to state some firm belief when you are talking about an issue that doesn't directly involve you, but as soon as you are in that situation the belief usually isn't as firm as you rationalize it and realize that it would be impractical to be too firm in that belief. Nothing wrong with doing that, just how people tend to work ( I am generalizing of course, I don't know if literally every person to have ever existed is like this). Ironically enough, hypocrisy is still really annoying to me, but usually its hypocrisy only in certain areas. For instance, I despise it when people constantly make fun of the opposing party, calling them close-minded and stupid, while at the same time being incredibly narrow-minded themselves and complaining how rude it is to make fun of their own beliefs (for the record, I'm all for making fun of people, but if you can't take it don't deal it out).

As to how complicated I am.... of course I'm complicated, I'm human after all. I have always thought people are way more complicated than some gave them credit for, regardless of supposed intelligence or sophistication. And yes I agree with you that certain associations between a perceived type of person and their likes/beliefs/etc. are really annoying, but that's probably going to be a thing forever.

I guess I could go on, typing about myself and how complicated I am, stroking my ego at the amazing way I could portray myself and talking about how I'm so unique and special and using my flaws to compliment my virtues instead of actually being flaws and all that delightfully cliche stuff, but that seems like a lot of work so I'll cut it short for now and regale the boards with my irrefutable genius (for as we all know I, as with all the others here, would never lie or exaggerate on the internet, especially not ourselves)And yes I realize I am doing the equally cliche sort of thing by using mock arrogance, sarcasm, self-awareness( including this, and by extension this aside, and so on) and casual laziness, but come on guys, cliches are cliches for a reason
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