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Post Reply Sex & Sexual Content - Society's view, the Industry's view, & Your view
Posted 2/10/17

AnimeKami wrote:

Love the skank.


Every single character in that show is a skank. Even the males.
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Posted 2/10/17
Scum's Wish is one of the few anime I've seen where the sex scenes serve a purpose and are rather effective IMO.
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Posted 2/10/17

Okocha119 wrote:


AnimeKami wrote:

Love the skank.


Every single character in that show is a skank. Even the males.


No.

Only one skank and the others are just horny teenagers.
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Posted 2/12/17 , edited 2/12/17

Okocha119 wrote:

*grabs shovel*

So, what's the general opinion on Kuzu no Honkai?

While I personally do not hold the series in particular high regard due to how ludicrously over the top it is (it makes me laugh more consistently than most comedies do, I'll give it that, but this is not the topic of this thread), I do think that it offers an interesting perspective when it comes to portraying the sexuality of teenagers.
The show's view on teenage relationships is one that is far less romanticized than most portrayals in the realm of Anime tend to be. It's all about taking advantage of one another and discovering ones own sexual preferences through the process of trial and error. The characters are all genuinely horrible people and, again, probably more than a bit overwritten, but it still feels like this perspective is more in line with how real relationships between kids that age are like these days than most other portrayals from shows in the same genre. In addition to that, it also include scenes of a sexual nature that have more of a purpose than just inciting sexual arousal in the viewer and manage to convey the emotions involved in the relationships between the different characters in an effective way. Which is something many people in this thread have been asking for in the past.

Any thoughts?

So sorry for reviving this hellhole of a thread by the way


HAHAHA yes! Thank you for quoting me!

I unfortatenly have not watched the show yet. I'm waiting for it to be over and then I'm going to use my 7 day trail on Amazon's retarded Anime Strike service, and watch it all in one go. From what I've heard, it sounds like it's everything I hoped and dreamed for an anime to explore in a sexual relationship. It seems very bold and I'm glad the studio decided to adapt it and go for a different type of high school romance story. I'm eager to start it, but I'll have to get back to you in like 7 weeks when it's over haha.

I was actually going to revive the thread once I got around to it, I'm glad you did it for me though This thread has been through a lot to say the least.
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Posted 2/13/17
My view is that all sexual content should be permitted in literature, comics, and animation provided no actual people were harmed or used in making it. Artistic exploration--no matter the content--is important. Laws or ordinances forbidding the public exhibition of such material or sharing it with minors make sense. But nothing is gained from censoring private viewing and contemplation of wholly fictional works, and in fact it sort of sounds nonsensical.
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Posted 2/13/17

EarthLight22 wrote:

My view is that all sexual content should be permitted in literature, comics, and animation provided no actual people were harmed or used in making it. Artistic exploration--no matter the content--is important. Laws or ordinances forbidding the public exhibition of such material or sharing it with minors make sense. But nothing is gained from censoring private viewing and contemplation of wholly fictional works, and in fact it sort of sounds nonsensical.


*nods*

Yep. Pretty much.
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Posted 2/14/17 , edited 2/14/17
In terms of anime, there appears to be a proliferation of shows which tease at sexual content (i.e. the entire ecchi genre), but very few which approach the topic in a mature fashion. In general the rule appears to be that sexuality can only appear in non-ero anime when it is somehow made to be absurd, and while suggestive actions can literally saturate a show, they rarely go so far as to even imply that two characters are in an actual sexual relationship. This is why when something breaks this mould and does approach the subject in a more realistic or mature manner, in which sex is not just an abstract idea played for laughs, I find myself congratulating the creator for seemingly having the courage to do it.

I don't know enough about Japan itself to comment, but to me it appears that Japanese media both embraces sexuality, whilst being simultaneously shackled by that strange obscenity law. This of course leads to all of the...let's say "creative" loopholes the Japanese have found for sexual expression. Of course the obscenity law as far as I know is only to do with outright explicit sexual content, so it still doesn't fully explain why in regular anime, fanservice abounds, but sexual relationships are rarely implied. This may be a farfetched theory on my part but bear with me here. I studied a bit of Japanese literature a few years ago, and one of the literary forms, the "monogatari" (with the most famous example of this genre being The Tale of Genji) often includes storylines in which a man is pursuing many women, but is ultimately always thwarted in his attempts by a whim of fate. I can't help but feel that there is some point of comparison to be drawn here between that and your typical spineless ecchi protagonist. Of course, I may be doing the great Murasaki Shikibu a gross disservice by comparing the Genji Monogatari to an ecchi harem series, but it's still an intriguing thought. It would be wonderful if modern ecchi shows were drawing one of their central themes from Japanese classics, but I'm probably just talking out of my ass in an attempt to make the harem genre look far more enlightened than it has any right to be.
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Posted 2/16/17

hickey1992 wrote:

In terms of anime, there appears to be a proliferation of shows which tease at sexual content (i.e. the entire ecchi genre), but very few which approach the topic in a mature fashion. In general the rule appears to be that sexuality can only appear in non-ero anime when it is somehow made to be absurd, and while suggestive actions can literally saturate a show, they rarely go so far as to even imply that two characters are in an actual sexual relationship. This is why when something breaks this mould and does approach the subject in a more realistic or mature manner, in which sex is not just an abstract idea played for laughs, I find myself congratulating the creator for seemingly having the courage to do it.

I don't know enough about Japan itself to comment, but to me it appears that Japanese media both embraces sexuality, whilst being simultaneously shackled by that strange obscenity law. This of course leads to all of the...let's say "creative" loopholes the Japanese have found for sexual expression. Of course the obscenity law as far as I know is only to do with outright explicit sexual content, so it still doesn't fully explain why in regular anime, fanservice abounds, but sexual relationships are rarely implied. This may be a farfetched theory on my part but bear with me here. I studied a bit of Japanese literature a few years ago, and one of the literary forms, the "monogatari" (with the most famous example of this genre being The Tale of Genji) often includes storylines in which a man is pursuing many women, but is ultimately always thwarted in his attempts by a whim of fate. I can't help but feel that there is some point of comparison to be drawn here between that and your typical spineless ecchi protagonist. Of course, I may be doing the great Murasaki Shikibu a gross disservice by comparing the Genji Monogatari to an ecchi harem series, but it's still an intriguing thought. It would be wonderful if modern ecchi shows were drawing one of their central themes from Japanese classics, but I'm probably just talking out of my ass in an attempt to make the harem genre look far more enlightened than it has any right to be.


Hey thanks for your perspective, I very much agree that's a weird situation all around, since I've made this thread I've been paying more attention to how animes use it and it's interesting paying attention to how shows approach sexual acts. More often than not I see a trend that I think most of us have all noticed, and that's why I do the same as you do in the bold.

And the Genji Monogatari thing is something I never really considered or have heard before when it comes to ecchi animes, but I think you're right that it may just be a coincidence haha, but it certainly could have been influential in some way as a literary device that some creators draw upon, whether intention or unintentional. I read a bit about it and it's like a really important novel, considered one of the first modern novels! Reading about it, I see what you mean that it definitely has a harem and certain events prevent the main character from completely settling down with each of his lovers, something always gets in the way and complicates it.
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Posted 2/16/17

LoomyTheBrew wrote:

And the Genji Monogatari thing is something I never really considered or have heard before when it comes to ecchi animes, but I think you're right that it may just be a coincidence haha, but it certainly could have been influential in some way as a literary device that some creators draw upon, whether intention or unintentional. I read a bit about it and it's like a really important novel, considered one of the first modern novels! Reading about it, I see what you mean that it definitely has a harem and certain events prevent the main character from completely settling down with each of his lovers, something always gets in the way and complicates it.



Incidentally I also regard the Genji Monogatari as one of (if not the) first self-insert fanfictions. This is because Genji is thought to be based off of one of several very real members of Japanese royalty, and there is a very pivotal character named Murasaki (after the author) in the book whom Genji raises to a life of nobility and later marries.
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Posted 2/16/17
I'm tired of sex.
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Posted 2/18/17 , edited 2/18/17
Interesting point, hickey1992!

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