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They may just be my tastes speaking, but I feel like the shoujo anime I've seen are generally of lesser quality than an average shonen. Both have their own cliches associated with them, and the shonen ones generally have more enjoyable cliches. And overall, I feel shonen series just have more to offer and are generally a cut above the average shoujo.

But this is possibly just the fact that I've not seen too many shoujo series (Of course, there's a reason why I haven't seen too many shoujo series).
It's also very ironic from someone who calls "Revolutionary Girl Utena" the greatest series ever. But... that anime was too amazing, so I don't count it.
Posted 4/20/15
Shonen and Shoujo are different genres of manga and anime.

I think you just have a preference for Shonen over Shoujo.

Also you need to take into account that Strictly speaking, Shōjo/Shonen manga does not comprise a style or a genre per se, but rather indicates a target demographic. Meaning it may not be your preference or your cup of tea.
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KarenAraragi wrote:

Shonen and Shoujo are different genres of manga and anime.

I think you just have a preference for Shonen over Shoujo.

Also you need to take into account that Strictly speaking, Shōjo/Shonen manga does not comprise a style or a genre per se, but rather indicates a target demographic. Meaning it may not be your preference or your cup of tea.


It's not just with the story and characters for me... but it's also animation quality, music, and the production as a whole. Generally, I see shonen anime as just being better in terms of the quality of how they're done, and not just the content of the show
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Posted 4/20/15 , edited 4/20/15
there are great shounen and great shoujo series.
as someone above said, it's just your taste more than anything.

edit: i'll take my bait...and eat it.
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Part of the issue is that almost none of the biggest, most popular, longest running series are shoujo. Sailor Moon is basically the only exception here... and it's pretty old. Pokemon, Yu Gi Oh, Dragonball, Hunter x Hunter, One Piece, Detective Conan, Naruto... all of them are shonen (though most have broken out of their target demographic at least somewhat). Those shows are the most profitable, the most popular, and therefore tend to get the biggest production budgets (whether they make good usage out of that money or not).

Also, if you associate action or fighting sequences with good production values... well, then of course shounen are going to look better to you.

Still, if you compare only 12 and 24 episode series from the same genres, it's not clear to me that shonen are particularly lower quality. There are certainly differences in style: baseline character models are clearly\y different (for instance, shoujo tend to draw very skinny and gaunt characters; shounen tends to draw ones with more curves and rounder faces), as is musical choices.

But does Say "I Love You" have worse production values than Toradora? Does Kimi ni Todoke have worse production values than Nisekoi? Does Usagi Drop (technically josei, but whatever) look worse than Barakamon? Personally, I would say "no" to all three of those questions.
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From a marketing standpoint, it is. After all, most people who watch anime are guys, and as such for every shoujo anime out there, there are about 9-10 shounen/seinen shows. But from a quality standpoint, I don't consider one to be superior over the other. There are great shounen shows and there are bad shounen shows, and the same can be said about shoujo. It's just that its presence is definitely where shoujo is inferior seeing that it just isn't as marketable when most of the viewers are guys. And my take is that it's all a matter of taste as I absolutely love great shoujo shows even though I'm not part of the targeted demographic group for those kinds of shows.
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Posted 4/20/15
maybe...
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Posted 4/20/15
Diabolik Lovers, enough said.
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Posted 4/20/15
No way, some of the best romance series ive seen have been shoujo.
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Posted 4/20/15
In general... Yes Shoujo are lower quality than Shounen.

The problem is... romance.

The majority of Shoujos are about a middle/high school girl falling in love in modern Japan. There is really only so much you can do with that.
The worst Shoujos out there are just rehashing the same teenage melodrama over and over again. "Will they or won't they?" "Here comes a rival to interrupt their romance." "Oh no, he has emotional scars from an unrealistic back story."

Shonen on the other hand always to different extents focus around 3 themes: competition, adventure, and growth.
Bad shonens out there have a tendency to focus on competition way too much, but they still contain adventure and growth to some extent. And Adventure and Growth are what most people seek in a story. They seek something new and they seek people learning to solve problems.

The better Shoujos, like CLAMP's stuff, know this, and they usually fill their series with adventure and growth, while they keep competition and romance more as treats, or carrots on sticks.

So yes, romance is frequently cheesy, and the more your story focuses on romance, the cheesier it will be. Hell, a focus around sex/fan service is capable of producing a more unique story than a focus on romance is.
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Posted 4/20/15
As has been previously stated, in general shonen are better than shojo.

But specifically, the best shojo manga are better than the best shonen, mainly based on the strength of their characters. I may be biased but one of my favorite parts of anime is character development.
Posted 4/20/15
Silver you sure do post a lot of threads that seem to be controversial or baiting people into getting into arguments, what is your purpose?

With that said, I'm not a big Shojo fan but there are a few I really thought had good animation/art/music on par with the big Shounens.

As others have stated it's going to be targeted towards a specific demographic and that just isn't yours due to the way you think. If you have an issue with Shojo in general I would suggest not watching or thinking about them and just move on, like a lot of people have moved on with not watching the harem/ecchi based anime/mangas.
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So...does this mean you're inviting him to get on the glass Trolololololovator and hand over your trolling factory to him, or does it mean he's one of the washouts along the tour?



DO WE GET TO SEE OOMPAH LOOMPAS?
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BlueOni wrote:



So...does this mean you're inviting him to get on the glass Trolololololovator and hand over your trolling factory to him, or does it mean he's one of the washouts along the tour?



DO WE GET TO SEE OOMPAH LOOMPAS?


Yeah, just sold my factory to him for some some magic beans and a notice me senpai t-shirt. He's just too good at trolling for the likes of me.
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