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I'd rather vote for her than some Republican lunatic honestly. Unless you're white or in the upper-class, you should vote Democrat, always.


ZOMG. Something we can agree on....

I am not a huge fan of Hillary either,

Last time I was gunning for someone else in the primaries. When it came between Obama and Hillary, it was a shitty race. The Obama side pulled the race card, and the Hillary people pulled the gender card. (I still voted Obama, cause party over people)

If she gets into the main race, I'll vote for her, but I am already fairly pissed that this is going to be a race based on gender or race rather than actual stances on issues.
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Why not Zoidberg 3015 instead?
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kaptainkooleio wrote:

If she wins we get Bill Back in the white house


As the first gentleman though.

And the media will be talking of that for at least three weeks on whether he's "the first man" or if the title is still "the first lady" or if they should ditch it for something gender neutral. Then they'll spend another month just talking about the impact that will have and how progressive the clintons are and of course, *cue teary eyed reporters* how progressive, we as a nation, are.....

There will be some haters that will hit the news as there's some backlash, and then we can cue the whole argument that republicans are anti-women and want to send us back to the 1600's (regardless of truth to it, the blanket statement about the opposition will be made, just like with Obama), and the nation will suffer from in-fighting once again...

Nothing new, and nothing having a god damned bit about the actual issues.
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In the end, there are no innocent politicians or voters.
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Hillary seems to be moving towards the left recently. She praised Warren and hired a strong big bank regulator to her team. If she continues to show her populist side she will win the support of progressives and socialists. And she's still better than any Republican candidate right now.


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I'm terrified of this next election. I don't want to vote for Hilary. She has a bad track record for listening to folks that no sane person should listen to (Jack Thompson of "Sue Grand Theft Auto" fame comes to mind). I also do not want to vote for most the these candidates the Republicans are putting forth, each has a different blend of scary and crazy to offer.

Why can't each party field a competent moderate so I can actually consider who to vote for instead of having to vote for whoever is least terrifying as President of the United States? More parties being viable would also be awesome, but if I hold my breath on that one I definitely won't survive. The only sane way to vote left to me may just be making a list of the special interest and corporate lobbies that support each candidate and then picking the one that has the most of those whose politics will best benefit me. They at least deliver on some of that crap.


The reason why moderates are no longer seen as viable candidates is because they are HATED in both parties. Democrats, a party that is becoming more progressive, despise their moderate counterparts for being too friendly with corporations and big banks. The current Republican party have no interest in moving into the middle of the political spectrum, hence the lack of moderate conservative candidates.

I too, as a person on the left, hate moderates.
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I'm very ignorant when it comes to politics, I really don't know what Hilary Clinton has to offer (I haven't heard her talk) so I don't know if she will be a good president, gender and race doesn't matter so I don't really care if she is a rich white woman. But I liked Bill Clinton a lot and that's the only reason why I would vote for Hilary, I still need to hear what she has to say though.
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Just thinking about her being the President makes me want to puke.
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I'm not excited about her running, but I'll probably never vote for a Republican candidate.
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To those that just spout of the parties are the same no they aren't one is wholly bought and paid for the other has members that actually don't go to big money to win. One party is more than willing to bite the hand that feeds it the other is so timid when it comes to where ti gets it food it rolls over like a good puppy barks their talking points and carries on. It is really clear when you actually look at voting records who I am talking about. If you look at the voting records and look at the money trail you can see what I'm talking about.

For those that think she has committed crimes please provide proof not supposition. If you are not sure what this is please go look it up. Not going to argue baseless claims by hack writers that are just trying to stir the pot. So please don't bring the fake news talking points. The hack writer has had his most recent talking points disproved so please live in reality.

While she is running to the left I'm holding judgment to see who may run against her from the left there are a couple of folks that would actually be really good. If she is sincere about her move to the left and isn't simply pandering and is willing to make good her promises then she would have my vote. She would get it anyways simply because anyone from the republican party is a tool for the rich.
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http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-politicians/democrats/hillary-clinton-net-worth/

Net Worth: 21.5 Million
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Get this...JUST DON"T VOTE!!!!!!!! Whether you vote for this or that party is irrelevant. They work together on things to really fuck everyone over and if you don't think so, read up, stop watching government media (cnn, fox news, msnbc, etc.) and do your own research. Thinking for yourself is hard, but you also get to decide on your own bed time.
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LONGNAMEYOUWONTMISS wrote:

The reason why moderates are no longer seen as viable candidates is because they are HATED in both parties. Democrats, a party that is becoming more progressive, despise their moderate counterparts for being too friendly with corporations and big banks. The current Republican party have no interest in moving into the middle of the political spectrum, hence the lack of moderate conservative candidates.

I too, as a person on the left, hate moderates.


I don't have a problem with a social progressive. I don't have a problem with reasonable and effective restrictions on corporations or banks. It was due to "socially progressive" legislation that the banks were given a green light to churn out all those bad mortgage loans though. It looked nice on paper, unless you were en economist or you listened to decent economists who basically said it would get ugly, they just didn't seem to realize how ugly. Democrats get plenty cozy with big money, its just usually different big money than the Republicans or through different channels.

I want better fiscal responsibility without gutting social programs or the military (like slimmer administration where it makes sense, more spending based on needs than on maybes, etc. Pipe dream probably for either party). I want less corporate welfare (generates less than a dollar of economic activity per dollar spent, bad investment) which neither party seems to actually do anything about. I want programs to help the poor based on sound science, not touchy feely garbage from the left or "tough love" BS from the right. I don't want more religion in my government and I don't want more bogus legislation that on the surface is supposed to be about equality for someone that really isn't (like creating different standards for men and women for the same job to boost female applicant pass rates, that is pretty much the opposite of the stated goal of feminism). Neither party will give me what I want without fielding a moderate. Far leftists and far rights can't play politics with the other party well enough to actually fix problems either. Look at health care, it went from bad to a different bad. I was pretty hosed the way it was before. I am just as hosed now and I get to pay a penalty or pay for a plan (only one I can afford, what subsidy I get would be taken out of my tax return too, penalty and no insurance is cheaper) that barely affects my costs and is barely a step above a health savings plan. My doctor's office will cut me a deal if I don't have insurance since they don't have to deal with it and they will give me sample meds if I need them and they have them, so I can scrape by. Exactly like before.

Extreme agendas to either the right or the left aren't what we need. Left isn't just about social progress, it has negative baggage. Right isn't just about "values", a strong military, and "fiscal responsibility" (both parties suck at this these days) it also has negative baggage. I want someone that wants to tackle one or two real problems at a time and actually come to the table with all the players and fix them. Not pie in the sky promises, not garbage partisan crap, not only catering to special interests while ignoring everyone else.

Politics is turning into a crap fest freak show. The loudest and most obnoxious are getting the attention and the public is playing along with it. I'd say if you vote a party line, go in for partisan politics, or are an extreme leftist or right winger, you're part of the problem.
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Well, last two times I did not vote, since I didn't particularly care for anyone - and I dislike Obama a lot, always have...

I have to wait and see some more though, before I decide who I like or if I am voting at all. I don't assign myself to political parties, but I feel more...Republican this time around. Probably 'cause I am dead sick of Democrats and super, one-sided liberals who are destroying America. + tumblr generation but that is another story, another rant.

But who knows? Like I said, still have to wait and see. At the end of the day I will vote for whom I like best, regardless of party. If I don't really like anyone, I will not vote.

Let's just hope Obummer doesn't pass that law where we will be forced to vote, like in Australia for example. Ugh. Cannot WAIT for 2016 regardless of who gets in - just can't wait for a certain someone to get out!

Reminder: People, don't feel that just because you are a certain race that you cannot vote for certain parties. You can be Republican and non-white. Plenty are. You can be Democrat and white. Plenty are. If you feel that you have to be a certain race to vote for a certain party, you are a shit and should not be voting.

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I'm all for Mrs. Clinton as the first female president. We also need another Democrat because the Republicans are going to destroy the US especially being religious homophobes.
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Why not Zoidberg 3015 instead?


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