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bobland wrote:

Vote third party/independent then?


Or just don't vote... It doesn't make a difference
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We have Rand Paul and Ted Cruz calling for flat tax rates, dismantling of the IRS and keeping the corporate tax cuts given to the 1% by G.W. Bush.

We have Marco Rubio who I will admit has a nice tax plan but unfortunately it contradicts itself in the explanations of it. A flat rate plan as well but one aimed more at saving money for the underdog (Individuals who make less than $75k a yr, married couples who earn less than $150k a yr). The problem is despite him claiming there will be no new taxes to come with it it'll add around $4 trillion to the already $18 trillion national debt. I have no doubt neither the House nor the Senate will let that plan come through.

We have Jeb Bush who claims to be Hispanic and who has yet to "remember" the 95 calls from his office to his brother's offices during the 2000 Florida voting scandal. The one in which many black and hispanic voters were cheated of their right to vote. Whether stupidity, absent-mindedness or corruption voting for him seems like playing a game of political Russian Roulette to me.

Hilary Clinton is pretty much the only viable candidate left to discuss. Has she made mistakes in the past? Of course. I do find it funny that the Republicans have made a huge deal of her deleting her personal emails and using her personal email account for business (which still hasn't actually been proven) while ignoring the fact that former Secretary of State Colin Powell did the exact thing they're accusing her of doing. Powell even admits to deleting ALL his email when being ordered to turn it in. The difference with Clinton is her tax plan calls for tax cuts to the poverty-stricken and middle class, removal of the G.W. Bush corporate tax cuts given to the 1%, and tax hikes on those making over $250k a year (which includes both her husband and herself).

I won't go into religion, gay marriage, war or abortion stances here because each will have their own take on what's right and wrong to them. Taxes are pretty much the common point that affects us all, though and that's what will influence my vote most.

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neugenx wrote:

We have Rand Paul and Ted Cruz calling for flat tax rates, dismantling of the IRS and keeping the corporate tax cuts given to the 1% by G.W. Bush.

We have Marco Rubio who I will admit has a nice tax plan but unfortunately it contradicts itself in the explanations of it. A flat rate plan as well but one aimed more at saving money for the underdog (Individuals who make less than $75k a yr, married couples who earn less than $150k a yr). The problem is despite him claiming there will be no new taxes to come with it it'll add around $4 trillion to the already $18 trillion national debt. I have no doubt neither the House nor the Senate will let that plan come through.

We have Jeb Bush who claims to be Hispanic and who has yet to "remember" the 95 calls from his office to his brother's offices during the 2000 Florida voting scandal. The one in which many black and hispanic voters were cheated of their right to vote. Whether stupidity, absent-mindedness or corruption voting for him seems like playing a game of political Russian Roulette to me.

Hilary Clinton is pretty much the only viable candidate left to discuss. Has she made mistakes in the past? Of course. I do find it funny that the Republicans have made a huge deal of her deleting her personal emails and using her personal email account for business (which still hasn't actually been proven) while ignoring the fact that former Secretary of State Colin Powell did the exact thing they're accusing her of doing. Powell even admits to deleting ALL his email when being ordered to turn it in. The difference with Clinton is her tax plan calls for tax cuts to the poverty-stricken and middle class, removal of the G.W. Bush corporate tax cuts given to the 1%, and tax hikes on those making over $250k a year (which includes both her husband and herself).

I won't go into religion, gay marriage, war or abortion stances here because each will have their own take on what's right and wrong to them. Taxes are pretty much the common point that affects us all, though and that's what will influence my vote most.



While I may not agree with taxes being the only focus, I can respect your stance and reasoning. Just putting aside everything besides taxes though I would expect that Hilary would have a very adversarial relationship with the current congress and a very hard time getting any meaningful legislation on taxes without making concessions for the upper echelon.
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I'd rather vote for her than some Republican lunatic honestly. Unless you're white or in the upper-class, you should vote Democrat, always.


As a progressive Democrat I call total BULLSHIT on this!

While I love Obama on domestic issues, his foreign policy has shown that there is at least one minority group that Obama and the Democrats have been eagerly bashing to the point of making bigotry fashionable.

As such, THIS MINORITY, may be voting republican.

It depends on who the choices are. And if my choice is between corporate sell-out Hilary and a republican (who is by nature a corporate sell-out) I will vote for the candidate that supports my people more!

Shalom

Benjamin Netanyahu > Obama!

Posted 4/22/15
She's kinda scary
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LordDust wrote:


While I may not agree with taxes being the only focus, I can respect your stance and reasoning. Just putting aside everything besides taxes though I would expect that Hilary would have a very adversarial relationship with the current congress and a very hard time getting any meaningful legislation on taxes without making concessions for the upper echelon.


I think whoever gets in will find themselves in the same situation. Some more so than others. We've pretty much gone from a 2 party system to a 3 over the past few years. The infighting between The Tea Party and the rest of the Republicans can get pretty nasty at times and cause more damage to themselves in the long run. Any Democrat who gets in will have the Dems supporting them and the Reps voting against them at every turn. Any Rep who gets in will not only have to deal with the Dems but the other side of their own party. It's a mess politically here in the U.S., unfortunately, but the most disgust I've had these past 2 terms hasn't been about President Obama's mistakes (I admit he's made a few, but a lot less that either of the Bushes or Reagan), it's about Boehner and crew's disrespect of the soldiers, government employees and the very country itself. Holding the entire country hostage when you can't get your way is no better than a baby kicking and screaming on a toy store floor when he hears the word no.
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See kids, American is not a monarchy, the Clintons and Bushes take turns.
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inb4 anyone actually votes for Hilary.
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wocka flocka has my vote, at least you know what he's going to do if he becomes president. he will probably legalize weed and make school optional lol. but these other shitty politicians, you never know what they are thinking, they say one thing but something else. its ludicrous.
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See guys? We can have a rapper president.
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so you want a rich, old, white democrat. You forgot Reagan
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Does it really matter at this point? Zionists control both political parties anyway...

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yay woman president
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deer wrote:

I'd rather vote for her than some Republican lunatic honestly. Unless you're white or in the upper-class, you should vote Democrat, always.


Republicrats and Demopublicans, same buncha thugs that brought us the great ripoff cooperative of Federal Reserve + Banks + Politicians, all conspiring (and massively succeeding) in ripping off every last taxpayer.

Two sides of the same rotten coin.

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During the Obama v McCain election, when that whole "bailout" thing was going on, I was undecided. I said to myself, "This is the most blatantly crooked and wrong thing I have seen from the government. Whichever candidate votes against this will be the one who gets my vote." Well, as you know, they both voted for it. I still have yet to vote.
Conservative ideology says "Let people keep the money they earned."
Liberal ideology says "Tax, give money to the poor."
Bailout says "Tax, give money to the rich."
Corporate welfare is not supported by either ideology, yet it is supported by both parties.

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People on both sides who talk about Hilary like she one the nomination already make me want to vomit. Wait and see what happens. Is it most likely she will win the nomination? Yes. But can we no for sure? No

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