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Maybe she was just mad because you're cute so her ticking another box was an attempt for victory for having the last say.
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DanteVSTheWorld wrote:

Maybe she was just mad because you're cute so her ticking another box was an attempt for victory for having the last say.


interesting, i totally did not see it from that perspective at all
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retronatrix wrote:

I remember another time that I was eating lunch with my father and I was using chopsticks cause that's what I was used to and it's way easier on my arthritis than regular metal utensils. And this random college girl comes up and chews me out for using chopsticks and co-opting Japanese culture and how I should be ashamed of myself. Then turned to my dad and apologized on behalf of white people for "this racist" to mock him in that way.

We both just burst out laughing and he points out that he's my dad and I was raised to eat with chopsticks, to stop being ignorant enough to think she was powerful enough to apologize for an entire race of people.

Was hilarious to see her sputter and stomp away mumbling.


The funniest thing about that for me isn't even what your father said (though that sort of calm, resolute response is both admirable and amusing), but rather that not only was she ironically appropriating the responsibility to represent Japan and its people (a task best left to the prime minister and imperial family if it is to be left to anyone at all) while complaining about your having appropriated Japanese culture, but she chose to do so for your using utensils which aren't even uniquely Japanese!

Edit: Ah, and upon a re-read she'd also taken it upon herself to represent all Caucasians as well. Y'know. Because Whites aren't a diverse group or anything. Scots, English, Irish, French, Germans, Austrians, Dutch, Danes, it's all the same.
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DanteVSTheWorld wrote:

Maybe she was just mad because you're cute so her ticking another box was an attempt for victory for having the last say.


Ha, well interesting and sweet theory but I say she's just a control freak.
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retronatrix wrote:

I remember another time that I was eating lunch with my father and I was using chopsticks cause that's what I was used to and it's way easier on my arthritis than regular metal utensils. And this random college girl comes up and chews me out for using chopsticks and co-opting Japanese culture and how I should be ashamed of myself. Then turned to my dad and apologized on behalf of white people for "this racist" to mock him in that way.

We both just burst out laughing and he points out that he's my dad and I was raised to eat with chopsticks, to stop being ignorant enough to think she was powerful enough to apologize for an entire race of people.

Was hilarious to see her sputter and stomp away mumbling.


The funniest thing about that for me isn't even what your father said (though that sort of calm, resolute response is both admirable and amusing), but rather that not only was she ironically appropriating the responsibility to represent Japan and its people (a task best left to the prime minister and imperial family if it is to be left to anyone at all) while complaining about your having appropriated Japanese culture, but she chose to do so for your using utensils which aren't even uniquely Japanese!

Edit: Ah, and upon a re-read she'd also taken it upon herself to represent all Caucasians as well. Y'know. Because Whites aren't a diverse group or anything. Scots, English, Irish, French, Germans, Austrians, Dutch, Danes, it's all the same.


Agreed and agreed!

It's something I never totally understood, this need lately for white people to take responsibility for EVERYTHING wrong with the world and turn it in to white guilt. As if no other race, group, nation or what have you has never hand anything bad in their history.

I don't apologize for Japanese nationalism because of my Japanese side any more than I apologize for Hiroshima or Nagasaki on behalf of my white side.

People just need to move on to things that are more important than being so self absorbed to think they have a burden to apologize.
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I'm mixed race but I look Chinese. My cousin is also mixed race but she looks white. I have to explain to people that my hair isn't black so they never notice that I'm mixed race - I guess that means I'm not ambiguously ethnic.
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I'm Japanese who looks somewhat mixed (I'm not mixed.)
But because of where I live, a lot of ppl have thought that I'm Hispanic.
The others think Asians=Chinese, so when I moved to the US from Japan,
I was mostly considered Chinese.

Idk if it's a funny story but,,
(you gonna have to picture this in your head)

I was trying to use the RR in my old high school and opened the stall door and there was the cleaning Hispanic lady there with
a roll of toilet paper in her hand.
And I asked, "is it okay to use?" and she said things to me in Spanish that I did not understand.
I said, "I don't speak Spanish, I'm sorry."
She continued to speak to me in Spanish as the RR stall door closed on her.
She pulled it open again to speak to me in Spanish, as it slowly is closing on her again.

I think I just left. It was so strange that she was doing this as she's holding a roll of toilet paper and the stall door continuously closing on her.

I guess I just have countless weird experiences in my life.

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Your chopstick episode made me think of something else.

I took Japanese class in HS (I just wanted the easy credit), and I was real chill w/ my Japanese teacher.
I just kinda sat in the class and help the teacher out.

Teacher asked me if I had to pick America or Japan which one I would pick.
I kinda laughed & said Japan. Because I'm from there and I connect with Japan in so many ways.

This girl (white person), who LOOVES Japan all the sudden turned on me and got irritated and said,
"Then why don't you go back to Japan?"
and my initial thought was prob like, wtf?lol
But before I could even say anything, my teacher got mad at her and said,
"SHE HAD NO CHOICE, SHE CAME HRE BECAUSE OF HER PARENT'S JOB."

She was such a great teacher.
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retronatrix wrote:

Agreed and agreed!

It's something I never totally understood, this need lately for white people to take responsibility for EVERYTHING wrong with the world and turn it in to white guilt. As if no other race, group, nation or what have you has never hand anything bad in their history.

I don't apologize for Japanese nationalism because of my Japanese side any more than I apologize for Hiroshima or Nagasaki on behalf of my white side.

People just need to move on to things that are more important than being so self absorbed to think they have a burden to apologize.


I'm generally of the mind that effort should be focused on trying to make things better for everyone rather than trying to sort out how much any given group "owes" to any other. Misery poker is a game that everyone loses. Even if you "win", congratulations: you're the most miserable. Just try to build a better world for everyone.
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youngchop wrote:

Your chopstick episode made me think of something else.

I took Japanese class in HS (I just wanted the easy credit), and I was real chill w/ my Japanese teacher.
I just kinda sat in the class and help the teacher out.

Teacher asked me if I had to pick America or Japan which one I would pick.
I kinda laughed & said Japan. Because I'm from there and I connect with Japan in so many ways.

This girl (white person), who LOOVES Japan all the sudden turned on me and got irritated and said,
"Then why don't you go back to Japan?"
and my initial thought was prob like, wtf?lol
But before I could even say anything, my teacher got mad at her and said,
"SHE HAD NO CHOICE, SHE CAME HRE BECAUSE OF HER PARENT'S JOB."

She was such a great teacher.


I've kinda had that happen to me. I've had otaku and weeaboo types walk up to me and talk about how much they wish they were Japanese and how they're going to move to Japan, because it's a wonderland of happy kawaii fairies and unicorns that fart rainbows and pee cupcakes whilst dancing on marshmallow clouds. And they can't understand why their delusions make me smirk.

And some have gotten mad when I've pointed out that I'm happy being an American and prefer to stay where I culturally fit the best.
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Yes, I always ask when filling stuff out what I'm supposed to put.

It's quite a pain because I practically have a little bit of everything in me. I'm Italian, Irish, black, Chinese, and Korean.(At least that's all we know of) To make matters even more difficult, I have barely any blood cousins, most of my extended family's through marriage, so my closest cousins are Filipino and Japanese.

The most common guesses I get are Black or Filipino. When I went to Hawaii they thought I was a local. Most asians can tell I have asian in me but, can't tell what kind, non asians generally can't tell at all.(idk why it works like that) Skin tone wise, I'm really not that dark, like lots of Mexican's and other Latinos are darker than me. I'd be olive if i had to pick a tone. For my hair its like Mediterranean/ Southern Italian, with lots of huge curls and wavy, and straight when short.

When I used to play online games everyone thought I was white, because of my voice and the way I spoke. My last name also, people always say I got a super white last name.(Fun Fact: My family bloodline is the only family in the world with this name)

Alright, I gotta stop ranting about this. I guess if you have to choose one pick what will benefit you the most. Like if your applying for a college or job, pick the largest minority to increase you chances of getting it. If it doesn't matter put whatever your the most of. I put asian because i'm 50% east asian.


eclair-lumiere wrote:

ambiguously ethnic? One can only have two parents so how does that even work?


You can have a heavily mixed parent, or both. If your parents carry lots of traits from different ethnicity's then you'll become a jumble of different traits, hence ambiguously ethnic.

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BlueOni wrote:


retronatrix wrote:

Agreed and agreed!

It's something I never totally understood, this need lately for white people to take responsibility for EVERYTHING wrong with the world and turn it in to white guilt. As if no other race, group, nation or what have you has never hand anything bad in their history.

I don't apologize for Japanese nationalism because of my Japanese side any more than I apologize for Hiroshima or Nagasaki on behalf of my white side.

People just need to move on to things that are more important than being so self absorbed to think they have a burden to apologize.


I'm generally of the mind that effort should be focused on trying to make things better for everyone rather than trying to sort out how much any given group "owes" to any other. Misery poker is a game that everyone loses. Even if you "win", congratulations: you're the most miserable. Just try to build a better world for everyone.


That's the thing. It's one issue to say 'hey, this crap that we did. It sucked. Let's remember that humanity can be dogs and not do that". Or even "hey, remember when that crap happened to us? That sucked! Let's remember it so we can grow stronger". But to want to focus on the misery give or taken just to commiserate with others and not let a wound heal...that's just going to make everything worse.
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"ambiguously ethnic"??

that phrasing doesn't even make sense...
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retronatrix wrote:

That's the thing. It's one issue to say 'hey, this crap that we did. It sucked. Let's remember that humanity can be dogs and not do that". Or even "hey, remember when that crap happened to us? That sucked! Let's remember it so we can grow stronger". But to want to focus on the misery give or taken just to commiserate with others and not let a wound heal...that's just going to make everything worse.


I didn't really mean that history should be forgotten or overwritten, but rather that focusing on constructive solutions to residual problems brought on by past misdeeds is a better thing to do than to start falling over oneself in apology or just concentrating on who is to blame for what.
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"ambiguously ethnic"??

that phrasing doesn't even make sense...


Pretty much this...
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