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Posted 4/25/15 , edited 4/25/15
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The lack of its inclusion suggests to me you didn't see this part.

One is hardly saying there's no artistic merit in GTA, or that it's exclusively the product of a marketing strategy. Nevertheless, the controversy surrounding the franchise is planned, and has been from day one. The content of each game is both the product of an artistic vision and attention to what will sustain its marketability based upon what has worked in the past.


To that I say the smut and violence is not new. The biggest controversy V has received thus far is the torture scene which just happened to be around the time the subject was in the news. They received a boost in sales thanks in no small part to it's added gameplay features and playable character line up. To hint that a conniving group of marketers hold any real sway over the game's director or writers doesn't make any sense.
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To that I say the smut and violence is not new. The biggest controversy V has received thus far is the torture scene which just happened to be around the time the subject was in the news. They received a boost in sales thanks in no small part to it's added gameplay features and playable character line up. To hint that a conniving group of marketers hold any real sway over the game's director or writers doesn't make any sense.


Marketing teams and production teams don't communicate, and neither has any impact on the other. You're absolutely right. I quit.
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ehhhhhh i dont really care, i mean i just play GTA to kill random ppl and cause mayhem anyways. a great stress buster after a bad day of work or something. I just tell em to shut up and ignore their stupid reasons. Volume up!
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Boring.
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Posted 4/25/15 , edited 3/3/16

BlueOni wrote:


MysticGon wrote:

To that I say the smut and violence is not new. The biggest controversy V has received thus far is the torture scene which just happened to be around the time the subject was in the news. They received a boost in sales thanks in no small part to it's added gameplay features and playable character line up. To hint that a conniving group of marketers hold any real sway over the game's director or writers doesn't make any sense.


Marketing teams and production teams don't communicate, and neither has any impact on the other. You're absolutely right. I quit.


Pretty much. The way Take-Two lets Rockstar North operate these days follows a simple pattern. Take-Two gives Rockstar North a blank check, Rockstar North issues a embargo to anyone involved in the game's development. Very little leaks out and the game is then released. They are at the point where they don't need stealth promotions. Much less ranting activists criticizing their game design.
Posted 4/25/15

MysticGon wrote:


BlueOni wrote:


MysticGon wrote:

To that I say the smut and violence is not new. The biggest controversy V has received thus far is the torture scene which just happened to be around the time the subject was in the news. They received a boost in sales thanks in no small part to it's added gameplay features and playable character line up. To hint that a conniving group of marketers hold any real sway over the game's director or writers doesn't make any sense.


Marketing teams and production teams don't communicate, and neither has any impact on the other. You're absolutely right. I quit.


Pretty much. The way Take-Two lets Rockstar North operate these days follows a simple pattern. Take-Two gives Rockstar North a blank check, Rockstar North issues a embargo to anyone involved in the game's development. Very little leaks out and the game is then released. They are at the point where they don't need stealth promotions. Much less ranting activists criticizing their game design.


Whistle blower: It's a conspiracy!
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Whistle blower: It's a conspiracy!


It always is.

Posted 4/25/15

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severticas wrote:


Whistle blower: It's a conspiracy!


It always is.



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Posted 4/25/15 , edited 4/25/15
They like to pick and choose the wrongdoings they see. And they like to interpret things to be consistent with their narrow views.


Sort of like writing a persuasive essay by starting with a conclusion. They start with their conclusion, then they look for sources that support it and disregard everything else. This sort of cherry-picking crap is the worst type of writing and thinking you can do. It fools people into thinking a certain way and they think they are being logical.

The sensible approach is to begin by objectively analyzing data, then coming up with a probable conclusion based on the objective facts.
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Posted 4/25/15

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A very successful marketing strategy involving planting stories about how controversial and potentially dangerous the first installment of this franchise was in conservative tabloids is why it got off the ground in the first place. A smart production team would take note of that and continue to sustain that controversial, edgy image for the franchise as long as possible. The franchise's history reflects this.

Edit: One is hardly saying there's no artistic merit in GTA, or that it's exclusively the product of a marketing strategy. Nevertheless, the controversy surrounding the franchise is planned, and has been from day one. The content of each game is both the product of an artistic vision and attention to what will sustain its marketability based upon what has worked in the past.


As someone who knows marketing peeps, learning how about 70% of the news is disguised marketing was freaky.
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This triggers me.

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Posted 4/25/15 , edited 3/3/16

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As someone who knows marketing peeps, learning how about 70% of the news is disguised marketing was freaky.


Oh, but I'm just a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist Megaman. It's not like the fellow whose thesis I'm referencing is himself in marketing or anything. Oh, wait. He is, so that makes two.
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Posted 4/25/15 , edited 3/3/16

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maxgale wrote:

As someone who knows marketing peeps, learning how about 70% of the news is disguised marketing was freaky.


Oh, but I'm just a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist Megaman. It's not like the fellow whose thesis I'm referencing is himself in marketing or anything. Oh, wait. He is, so that makes two.


Are you suggesting we recruit Alex Jones for the podcast.
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Are you suggesting we recruit Alex Jones for the podcast.


We haven't dug the rabbit hole deep enough to reach him yet. Yet.
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