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Posted 4/26/15

RedExodus wrote:

They say work that you enjoy isn't work anymore. Wouldn't it make more sense "waste time" helping other people, expanding the field of astrophysics, etc.?

I don't see it as particularly ideal to just do whatever with no direction in such self-serving manners. Harmless, but nothing worthy of praise.


I don't think being self-serving is wrong. People, by nature, are self-serving. Selflessness is an ideal, and a moral. You can't force everyone to be selfless. Well at least not in America anyway :D.

I like selfless people, but I don't think it's fair to force everyone to be selfless.

And besides, you can't really put a standard on selflessness. Let's say there's OtakuGirlGuyDog who spend 10 hours a day watching anime, and like 6 hours sleeping, and the rest working @ McDonalds or online or something "non-contributory" like that. If /they/ aren't the ones flipping those burgers, someone else will still have to do it -_-. So, I think, they're still helping out society - and they're still happy. But, let's say they aren't working, but inherited a large fortune, then they're still contributing to society by spending all that cash on anime/manga/collector's whatever.

But yeah, you can't put a standard on selflessness. Yell at OtakuA for working @ McDonald's and tell him to go be a scientist, then there's OtakuB who's a bench chemist (basically a guy working for Merck, who does nothing but follow procedures mechanically), do you yell at him for not being more of an achiever and getting his PhD so he can advance his field of Chemistry? I don't think it's fair to force OtakuA to raise his standards, and then not raise the other standards of others.

Like I said if people are pulling their own weight, they shouldn't be forced to be more selfless. Some people like studying quantum physics and advancing the world's knowledge of the Big Bang, Dark Matter, etc. Go them. That's their passion. Some people like watching anime and taking it easy - that's cool too :).

I'm glad my parents didn't force me to study really hard. I motivated myself to get my B.Sc. in Biochem, because science genuinely interested me, and I wanted to go to med school. It'd be literally fucking horrible if someone was so miserable spending YEARS of his/her life studying orgo/physics, just because they were being stressed to "make something of themselves." That should be illegal -_-. You do what you want to do, because you have a passion for it. Like OP said, we have such finite lives, and when you die, your death will be no less different than Einstein's. We return to the mud, our spirits go to the Creator, where neither science nor anime will matter. We should all spend our finite lives doing the things we love the most.

It'd be really funny tho if you face God and are like: "check out mah PhD! Dat means I get special treatment right?" And He's like: "That's a good one."
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work is a bigger time waster than anime. 8 hours a day doing something you don't want to do, doesn't sound like a good investment of time.
Posted 4/26/15

severticas wrote:



lol at your avi and that video is not available T_T


It works for me. Get out of the Tentacle Zone and move to America.
Posted 4/26/15

Harborcoat wrote:


severticas wrote:



lol at your avi and that video is not available T_T


It works for me. Get out of the Tentacle Zone and move to America.


lol, it's 5am.
Posted 4/26/15
It's only a waste of time if you consider it a waste of time.
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But I don't see how not being interested in 3D people is bad. I too am like that, I have never fallen in love, not in a 2D person or a 3D person, and I see no reason to change either, and not something I think I can change just because I want to. Maybe I just haven't found "The One" like in Disney movies, but what can I do? not much. I am simply not interested in a "real human boy or girl" and I just want to know, what is so bad about that?


edit: Maybe I wrote something wrong or irrelevant, sorry. Kinda tired.


It's better to not be interested in love than to be brainwashed by media into thinking that you need it so badly that you fall for a loser and end up getting hurt..
You just haven't met the right human yet, don't even need to worry about it. I shut myself in for almost a year, and the earth provided what I was convinced I would never find again.
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To make an initial point of reference. I see no difference in entertainment formats when regarding this question, so a sit-com is the same as an anime or grinder game to me.

Just for myself I see it as a matter of degree and return as to whether it's a waste or not. People only have a set amount of time to use for different things in their days. It comes down to a matter of perspective for most as to which way they see it.

Using it to excess purely as a means of escape would easily be classified as a waste.
Being able to gain some sort of benefit from it for the time being spent, without restricting yourself too heavily would not.
Gaining enjoyable relaxation or greater insight into the world would be a benefit, instead of a waste. Whereas simply watching/playing to fill time with no recognizable return would be a waste.
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I spend a lot of time on anime and gaming, but I don't let it get in the way of my responsibilities. I'm very introverted, when I'm done with the necessary socializing I want my downtime to myself. So I don't spend nearly as much time socializing as most people, my ideal Friday night is listening to music then watching anime. If spending my free time alone rather than forcing myself to hang out with people is "wasting time" then I'll gladly waste time.
Posted 4/27/15
I agree with the OP, hobbies like anime and gaming need to be kept at a realistic length. I can easily get engrossed into anime, play games for hours and hours and I have, before now, skipped university to play MMOs. Thankfully, I realised what I was doing and took a step back from it.

It is easy to shut everyone out, especially as an introvert. But I think it is important to experience life and not just live it.
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I never had the time when I was younger to indulge or devote to very little except work and children.So this question really never came up.As my familial responsibilities lessened I found myself able to become much more self indulgent.I don't feel any guilt concerning my present anime/manga consumption , and when one considers the decades of mindlessly repetitive jobs I've held, hardly as a waste of time.I treat this as I do any other media and represents about an hour a day of my exercise routine, and on the weekend possibly more.
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ChinaCat89 wrote:

I spend a lot of time on anime and gaming, but I don't let it get in the way of my responsibilities. I'm very introverted, when I'm done with the necessary socializing I want my downtime to myself. So I don't spend nearly as much time socializing as most people, my ideal Friday night is listening to music then watching anime. If spending my free time alone rather than forcing myself to hang out with people is "wasting time" then I'll gladly waste time.


Feel exactly the same. I'm quite introverted myself and see my friends maybe a couple times a month. Big social events are really draining on me and i like to wind down from work or socializing by watching an anime series or playing games. That's not wasting time in my book.
Posted 4/27/15
It's difficult for me to defend that point.

When I was around 10, my dad gave me a N64.
Two years later, he told my brother and I that we were wasting our lives and we needed to grow up and become part of it.
Pretty harsh but even to this day, If i accidentally spend more than an hour or two playing a game or watching an anime I feel SO badly.
Even so, sometimes I spend like 3-5 hours cleaning the house, cooking, running errands, etc
and even though I can see my effort, I have to ask "Did I really WANT to do that?"
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I don't have a problem with any of this. As long as people pay for their own expenses and don't cause problems they're free to waste their time on whatever they want to.

For me anime is one of the many ways I can relax. It's impossible for me to neglect my responsibilities and other important things just so that I can watch more anime unless I'm too stressed to do them anyway.
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If you're happy OP, you're not wasting your time. I also think our hobby is more geeky than nerdy, nerdy usually entails obsessive interest in the sciences. I guess gaming and anime can fit in that if you're building your own PC's and know a lot about computers, or animating your own anime through animation software, but most of us don't so were just geeks.
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NGNL!!!
Just kidding while I enjoy games and anime I still go outside everyday and enjoy my life
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