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Are we wasting our time?
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I think it's true for any hobby. I mean, isn't engrossing yourself within your work also considered a bad thing? Everything in moderation, and if you're passionate about something, yeah, you're gonna spend more time on that thing. Just be sure to mix it up every once in a while.

This might be a stretch, but if anyone is into sports...It's very important and beneficial to cross-train. And that's not only to cross-train within your own sport, but to train with other sports as well. I was a softball player and my three main positions were 2nd, 3rd, and right/left field (depending on who was pitching and the other team), and I could play any other position (except pitching) proficiently. I also played other sports, and every sport I played helped me become a better softball player. Like volleyball taught me how to jump and be quick off my feet. Tae Kwon Do increased my agility ten-fold and helped train my eyes to recognize small movements. Basketball and Track helped my endurance and foot work. Even color guard helped with being more aware of my own body and how it moved.

So it's good to be passionate about something, but it's even better to do some cross-training.
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AiYumega wrote:

As fans of something like anime, or gaming, or so called "nerdy" hobbies, a large fraction of us seem to forgo some things in life. To be blunt, I see it a lot. Where a hobby such as this can be become a lot more.

2-D culture is fun, to an extent, until it's detrimental. It may sound preacher-y but unless you are steadfastly against humans, you need to know that your relationship with a "cartoon" character isn't real. It's troubling when people who are in their upper ages, (won't name ages to keep it polite), are not interested in real human girls or guys, and only want to care for anime or game characters. These characters aren't real, and never will be, so doesn't make it waste of time?

I don't judge, because that's not my MO, but people like the shut ins who never leave their house and watch anime/play games not for days but months or years on end are just giving their time to death frankly. It's sad, we all die sooner or later, and while these hobbies can bring happiness, there's a certain type of happiness that only doing real life things can bring.

Online culture has made it easy to create a new self. A lot of people would be surprised to see the real person behind the username, and see how different they really are. I am not AiYumega when I'm offline. I'm not. I'm a normal and average 21 year old, who is just like millions and billions of others. It's a waste of time to create a world online, and let the real one around you fall away.

I love anime, I love these things to death, but there's a point where I feel it's necessary to detach and let yourself live outside that for a bit. I've made threads about "Casuals", where people like myself who are devout fans of anime but don't live by the steadfast code the "elite" live by are frowned upon, but reality is.....whatever you want it to be.

So, you may disagree with what I feel here, but I want to make an odd analogy here....

Have fun clearing the 100 floors of Aincrad, but don't get trapped in the game.




TL:DR - Life is finite, don't let it pass.


I don't think pastimes are bad in and of themselves but can overtake a life. Is that so bad? Perhaps "normal" life isn't all it's cracked up to be. Having kids? Not helping our environment. Being 'Successful' at work? There are tragedies there as well. Fame and Fortune? Good luck with that and if you are lucky watch out for alcohol and pills.

Myself, while I'd hardly label myself as normal or average, I have life outside of Anime and am happy that way. I know others who made different choices. More power to them.



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RedExodus wrote:

They say work that you enjoy isn't work anymore. Wouldn't it make more sense "waste time" helping other people, expanding the field of astrophysics, etc.?

I don't see it as particularly ideal to just do whatever with no direction in such self-serving manners. Harmless, but nothing worthy of praise.


I don't think being self-serving is wrong. People, by nature, are self-serving. Selflessness is an ideal, and a moral. You can't force everyone to be selfless. Well at least not in America anyway :D.

I like selfless people, but I don't think it's fair to force everyone to be selfless.

And besides, you can't really put a standard on selflessness. Let's say there's OtakuGirlGuyDog who spend 10 hours a day watching anime, and like 6 hours sleeping, and the rest working @ McDonalds or online or something "non-contributory" like that. If /they/ aren't the ones flipping those burgers, someone else will still have to do it -_-. So, I think, they're still helping out society - and they're still happy. But, let's say they aren't working, but inherited a large fortune, then they're still contributing to society by spending all that cash on anime/manga/collector's whatever.

But yeah, you can't put a standard on selflessness. Yell at OtakuA for working @ McDonald's and tell him to go be a scientist, then there's OtakuB who's a bench chemist (basically a guy working for Merck, who does nothing but follow procedures mechanically), do you yell at him for not being more of an achiever and getting his PhD so he can advance his field of Chemistry? I don't think it's fair to force OtakuA to raise his standards, and then not raise the other standards of others.

Like I said if people are pulling their own weight, they shouldn't be forced to be more selfless. Some people like studying quantum physics and advancing the world's knowledge of the Big Bang, Dark Matter, etc. Go them. That's their passion. Some people like watching anime and taking it easy - that's cool too :).

I'm glad my parents didn't force me to study really hard. I motivated myself to get my B.Sc. in Biochem, because science genuinely interested me, and I wanted to go to med school. It'd be literally fucking horrible if someone was so miserable spending YEARS of his/her life studying orgo/physics, just because they were being stressed to "make something of themselves." That should be illegal -_-. You do what you want to do, because you have a passion for it. Like OP said, we have such finite lives, and when you die, your death will be no less different than Einstein's. We return to the mud, our spirits go to the Creator, where neither science nor anime will matter. We should all spend our finite lives doing the things we love the most.

It'd be really funny tho if you face God and are like: "check out mah PhD! Dat means I get special treatment right?" And He's like: "That's a good one." :D

Einstein is different because IMO you don't die when you become a corpse, you die when you are forgotten and Einstein has been immortalized. Sure, we need people to flip burgers, that is, if robots aren't flipping burgers for us which could have happened by now. It just seems to me that peoples' standards are low, what w/ all the Mcjobs and our dead-last school system that doesn't compare to eastern schools. The things we do don't have equal value. If you wanna do whatever then sure but you're not helping the country stand out in a good way. You can camp around what you like but that means never discovering what else you may like that could be beneficial. You gotta get out of the comfort zone sometimes.
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Doing what you don't like with the limited time we have here on earth is the real waste of time.
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I think this quote by Lee Child sums up my feelings on whether you're wasting your time or not on any endeavor ... be it watching anime or becoming a doctor or writing book or coding a game or pondering the direction of a relationship.

Posted 4/27/15
I think that interests and pastimes are something that you should keep in moderation. They should not become an addiction, nor should they be detrimental and affect your life in a negative way. In other words, have a life outside of anime and have other interests!
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Subjectively I think 95% of what human's do is wasteful to the survival/advancement of the human race and its creations. So I think the real question here is, do you believe happiness to be the most important thing in life? Even if said happiness consists of doing nothing and/or destructive activities? I mean, it's just a matter of each interpretation of their ideal future; Yours is a future with successful jobs and relations in the social herd, another's may be to dedicate their lives to discovering the reasoning to the void of space-time called dark matter. Both could be right, or wrong. Nobody nor thing can know, that is because human's have evolved their own standards of life separate to that of the reality of nature. Therefore you'll always have discrepancies with each other's reality, this is the process nature has dedicated the most probable path to achieving longevity and adaptability in a species. This allows many different methods and standards to be incited and "tested" against one another. Life is a war, we are limited physically by this universe so I truly believe as long as you're not stressed it doesn't matter... there is *no point in worrying about* what others "waste" *their time* on IMO
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Hairbelly wrote:

I think this quote by Lee Child sums up my feelings on whether you're wasting your time or not on any endeavor ... be it watching anime or becoming a doctor or writing book or coding a game or pondering the direction of a relationship.



Love his books.
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I agree, but...

If people just love their waifus and/or husbandos and don't really try at real life love and romance, they could miss out on something real great and special for sure.

On the other hand...love and romance with a special other is so great when the love is real and the relationship succeeds and lasts for the long haul, until death do them part. However, that isn't the case a lot of times. Some people never get that great true love thing to work out for them, even after trying and trying. In fact, it happens to many people.

With our waifus and husbandos, we can get warm and fuzzy feelings from them and have feelings...be fond of them, or even very fond of them, which is fine and well, or end up feeling as though we love them like they are a SO, which is when it goes too far...but people can have feel-good moments and experiences with fictional characters without the trouble and heartache of real life relationships.

Loving waifus and husbandos will ultimately not be as great as being in love with a real person, but when a romantic relationship doesn't work out, it brings you real low. I'd rather be fond of waifus and husbandos and get warm, fuzzy feelings from them then be going through a low of a relationship that didn't work out, given a choice of the two. To reiterate, true love working out between people is the best and better than that.
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Speaking as a recovering hikikomori (I spent two years in moderate isolation, five in total isolation, currently enjoying my second year outside), mentally healthy people are not usually prone to becoming obsessed with their hobbies in a destructive way. Someone who is mentally healthy will not abandon their real life for anime and manga, and a mentally ill person cannot be easily talked out of compulsions and coping mechanisms. Talking down to mentally ill people who have retreated from the real world isn't helpful either; I recall being told to get a life and do something productive made me even more depressed and anxious. Retreating from my life wasn't something I chose and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

I honestly don't know anybody with a "normal" hobby that does anything productive or worthwhile beyond bringing them personal satisfaction. As long as it's not totally consuming your life, anything that you enjoy is worth your time. If you're unhappy and find yourself wrapped up in or obsessing with your hobbies, please reach out and get help, if it's safe for you to do so. The weather is nice this time of year.
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Posted 4/27/15
If you are passionate about it are you really wasting time?
If you do nothing else I think I can say that maybe you are wasting time.
It has been mentioned that moderation is a good thing and I have to agree.
Having more than one interest can make into a well rounded person, less likely to accept something that people say without question. There is the flip side of that, if you have so much to do, you never really have a good experience doing anything...
Certainly there are people who do not know any better but it still goes back to that "moderation" thing.



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Conforming to normality is a waste of time.

LET THERE BE BOOBS, THEY ARE GREAT.
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I'm not sure what OP means by getting out of the house.

I spent my high schools years partying and doing sports, I don't think it gets more "outdoors" than that. It wasn't until I REALLY began watching lots of anime did I realize I was unhappy. A lot of this having a "normal life" from what Iv seen is what OP is doing right now, enforcing their opinion on what's normal. So I must disagree, the second you realize you enjoy something, it's not wasted at all time.
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Posted 4/28/15

Phersu wrote:

Love his books.

Agreed. His work is fantastic.
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Go outside, make real life friends you can actually hang out with. See things, do things. I didn't, and now I can't, and lemme tell ya, it sucks bad.
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