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The riots in Baltimore
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Posted 4/28/15 , edited 4/28/15
If you've been catching up to the news, you're well aware of the riots in Baltimore. This is sort of like Ferguson, except on a much grander scale.

"What happened?"

Long story short, a black citizen in Baltimore was arrested and placed in a cop car. He was caged in the back seat and his spine got severed, and ultimately died. White cops, and a black deceased male. Eventually it catches wind, and many townspeople literally dismantle their city.

The Blood gang & the Crips gang have also gained a temporary "truce" to rebel against the law, and only the law. Many shops, cars, buildings, and property entirely were destroyed recently. As of for now, Baltimore is pretty much one of the most unsafe places for a bit.

What do you think of this?

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NOTE: No racism is allowed AT ALL. The discussions may include race in context of the tragedy, but any obvious racist shots or comments toward the case or other CR members are not tolerated.
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Riots happen when people take advantage of turmoil to further their own gain, whether it is for attention or to steal or just to plain inflict damage. Riots solve nothing, they will continue to happen until people come together and put a stop to it. This can be said for all world problems caused by human kind.
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I hope people are smart enough to separate the rioters from the peaceful protesters that have been doing walks for a while now before the riots happened. Having a riot on the man's funeral, supposedly seeking justice, of all days is not only unbelievably disrespectful to the family (who have called for an end to the riots) but it also takes away from the real cause. Now everyone is going around calling the protesters the rioters, when in reality they are two different groups. What justice is there in raiding your neighbor's store? What, they're not mad either? They're just as bad off and yet people are only hurting themselves instead of channeling their anger. My campus is near the area and it's a mess. I feel bad for the family of the deceased, this isn't what they asked for at all, and this isn't going to get any sort of justice.

*TL:DR - my two cents
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PurpleDjango wrote:

Riots happen when people take advantage of turmoil to further their own gain, whether it is for attention or to steal or just to plain inflict damage.


"I'm protesting racial injustice by looting a TV set and smashing cars!"
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Ejanss wrote:


PurpleDjango wrote:

Riots happen when people take advantage of turmoil to further their own gain, whether it is for attention or to steal or just to plain inflict damage.


"I'm protesting racial injustice by looting a TV set and smashing cars!"


Don't forget to protest rioters burning down planned to be built old folks retirement homes.
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You know some people condemn the riots and violence and say that they should demonstrate peacefully. But I think people are starting to realize that peaceful demonstrations are having little effect in getting their frustration across. They've been demonstrating peacefully for DECADES and yet are still discriminated against and murdered out of fear and hate. I think people are just tired of it and frustrated. Look to countries like Egypt. Arab Spring started peaceful but people realized that the peaceful demonstrations had little impact in getting their point across to the people that mattered. The good thing about the riots is that the "world" is watching so it is keeping the police and national guard response tactics in check for the time being. I also think the riots say something to the world, that the United States isn't as perfect a place to live as certain groups would have you believe.

I think Fred Hampton summed up how some frustrated people feel, "We’re going to have to struggle. We’re going to have to struggle relentlessly to bring about some peace, because the people that we’re asking for peace, they are a bunch of megalomaniac warmongers, and they don’t even understand what peace means. And we’ve got to fight them. We’ve got to struggle with them to make them understand what peace means.
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How the heck did his spine get severed from being in the back seat of a police car?
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I doubt burning your own community has anything to do with racial injustice, this is a democracy if you want anything done run for your local public office, or maybe even Congress or the Presidency, protesting never gets anything done. But it does prove a point.
Posted 4/28/15 , edited 4/28/15
Black people living up to the stereotypes as usual.

I'm not on the cop's side even though the victim was no innocent (yet another one with an unclean record!), but really...why can't blacks protest the severe problems in their society? Lack of education, black on black violence, how every area which has a majrity of black folk turn into a ghetto eventually? Single parent homes, high rate of school dropouts, high rate of teenage pregnancy, fatherless households...etc. etc.

Change starts with YOU. We all know that the moment the protests die down, the area will still be a ghetto, people will still loot and they will not learn.

And again...I guess black lives only matter when they are taken by a white cop.

Don't matter if it were a black copper who killed a black man...ONLY a white cop killing a black man is important folks! Gang violence doesn't matter...thug attacks don't matter...nothing matters unless you are a white cop and have killed a black man.

And let us not forget...racism comes in all colors. Asians, whites, Latinos, Indians, Middle Easterners...etc. etc. Stop acting like black people cannot be racist, nor can black cops be racist. As a non-white immigrant, I know both to be true too well.

Yeah, protest all you want! But do so peacefully and don't act like savage ghetto trash! And if you ARE protesting police violence, make sure you do so when ALL people are affected by it, not just blacks. More and more stories that the main media ignores show that other races more often than not are being affected by excessive police force.

Protest fairly, not just when a black is killed by a white cop.
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Life is not a dress rehearsal.
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PurpleDjango wrote:
this is a democracy if you want anything done run for your local public office, or maybe even Congress or the Presidency...


That would be nice, if only every other candidate wasn't backed by PACs and a few hundred million dollars for campaigning.
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I think this MLK quote is relevant:
"…I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention."

Basically the riots are nothing but an unthinking expression of anger ruled by mob mentality. The looting and property damage helps nothing to be sure, but the fact that people are so occupied with that point is telling. Because while the looting and rioting should be condemned, as MLK did condemn riots, we should also bear in mind that this isn't happening suddenly out of the ether. People are pissed and just condemning the looting without understanding why they are lashing out in the first place will only ensure riots continue. As long as people chastise the protesters whilst ignoring or outright denying the systemic racial bias that prompted the protests and riots, nothing is going to get better.
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DrNope wrote:


PurpleDjango wrote:
this is a democracy if you want anything done run for your local public office, or maybe even Congress or the Presidency...


That would be nice, if only every other candidate wasn't backed by PACs and a few hundred million dollars for campaigning.


You make a good point, this is why Democracy mixed with capitalism doesn't work right.
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I think this MLK quote is relevant:
"…I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention."

Basically the riots are nothing but an unthinking expression of anger ruled by mob mentality. The looting and property damage helps nothing to be sure, but the fact that people are so occupied with that point is telling. Because while the looting and rioting should be condemned, as MLK did condemn riots, we should also bear in mind that this isn't happening suddenly out of the ether. People are pissed and just condemning the looting without understanding why they are lashing out in the first place will only ensure riots continue. As long as people chastise the protesters whilst ignoring or outright denying the systemic racial bias that prompted the protests and riots, nothing is going to get better.


Yes. You look beyond what lies on the surface. Intellectual for sure.
Posted 4/28/15

DrNope wrote:

You know some people condemn the riots and violence and say that they should demonstrate peacefully. But I think people are starting to realize that peaceful demonstrations are having little effect in getting their frustration across. They've been demonstrating peacefully for DECADES and yet are still discriminated against and murdered out of fear and hate. I think people are just tired of it and frustrated. Look to countries like Egypt. Arab Spring started peaceful but people realized that the peaceful demonstrations had little impact in getting their point across to the people that mattered. The good thing about the riots is that the "world" is watching so it is keeping the police and national guard response tactics in check for the time being. I also think the riots say something to the world, that the United States isn't as perfect a place to live as certain groups would have you believe.

I think Fred Hampton summed up how some frustrated people feel, "We’re going to have to struggle. We’re going to have to struggle relentlessly to bring about some peace, because the people that we’re asking for peace, they are a bunch of megalomaniac warmongers, and they don’t even understand what peace means. And we’ve got to fight them. We’ve got to struggle with them to make them understand what peace means.


Exactly, and nothing will change as long as people look at riots as "black people breaking the law" while clinging to MLK Jr and pacifism (even though MLK Jr was quoted as saying that riots are the language of the unheard). People hate to admit that whites don't care about black people in America. Until people start doing something about this issue politically and not acting like it's the status quo, nothing will change.

Racism was at the core of the formation of this country, racism that we've been renaming and rebranding since slavery and the media concentrates on the rioters and only the rioters even though there are many people protesting peacefully. I laugh when some people say that racism has died.

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