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Freddie Gray and the Baltimore riots
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What are your opinions on what's happening in Baltimore right now?

I've heard both sides, and my friends and I argue both sides, playing devil's advocate and such.

I personally am tired of the police in america today and their blatant abuse of power. There have been so many cases of police brutality lately, and it makes me sick.

I had a professor in college who spent a bit of time as the #1 expert witness when it came to Police Exam testing cases (for a while, there were multiple lawsuits across the country regarding police testing results - many people thought that the people who decided who made it into the force were making their decisions based on race or other such unfair factors).

Basically, he was a psychologist and his specialty was deciding whether or not certain police exams were adequate in determining whether or not people could make it into the police force.

He told us, and this is word-for-word, "I've never met a police officer who was psychologically fit to carry a gun."

This sticks with me, as I agree wholeheartedly that nobody should be given that kind of power over another human. My belief is that all police officers have some sort of power-issue. Even the "good ones." (they just keep their issues in-check).


All in all, the behavior of the police make me sick, and they should be punished to the full extent of the law. I'd like to see them imprisoned on manslaughter charges. And I'd like to see them put in general population with other murderers.
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There are good period, there are bad people. So you'll have good cops and bad cops. Should the abusive ones be sanctioned? Yes. Do I think the officers did something to Freddie? Very much so.

In the end it's the ones at the top of the pyramid that aren't policing the police. For that they must be held accountable to the utmost extent. But rioting isn't the way. The actual protesters were in the right.
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SaeDVK wrote:
Basically, he was a psychologist and his specialty was deciding whether or not certain police exams were adequate in determining whether or not people could make it into the police force.

He told us, and this is word-for-word, "I've never met a police officer who was psychologically fit to carry a gun."

This sticks with me, as I agree wholeheartedly that nobody should be given that kind of power over another human. My belief is that all police officers have some sort of power-issue. Even the "good ones." (they just keep their issues in-check).

All in all, the behavior of the police make me sick, and they should be punished to the full extent of the law. I'd like to see them imprisoned on manslaughter charges. And I'd like to see them put in general population with other murderers.


That whole statement that your teacher said I think is completely true. This is why we have cops with an excellent record who show no signs of having issues or problems suddenly end up hurting or even killing someone, like that first cop who was in the news who killed the teenager in the street earlier this year, or late last year. Can't remember exactly what happened, but I know that it was in the news like every day about the case for awhile. I honestly think that we should go to something like in Britain or other countries where the normal police officers don't even carry guns. There have been too many instances of police violence and excessive force in the last few years for this to be ignored. I know that part of it is because of social media, and more ways for people to take pictures or record things that they have with them causing it to come to light more, but this has been going on for many years before this. However, we would also need stricter gun laws to keep criminals from getting guns easily and killing unarmed cops. Not siding with the cops here, but if they start not to carry guns and are faced with an actual dangerous situation, then it wouldn't be good.
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The rioters are a lot more messed up in the head than any of the police officers. I don't even see it as all that outrageous that some cops got carried away and accidentally broke some criminal's spine with some ridiculous submission hold while they were arresting him. Yeah, they should pay for it and go on trial for murder, but it certainly doesn't make me think the city needs to be burned down in retribution.

The race of anyone involved isn't even worth bringing up. It doesn't actually affect the situation except to fool people into getting angry.
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i'm pretty pissed at people defending the rioters. just because some rich white people threw a huge riot because their fav team lost a game doesn't mean it's ok for these guys to riot too Oh, and it's not okay to try to stop the rioters either , apparently, because it gives the police more chance to be abusive to the civilians

it doesn't make sense. This isn't civil rights. This isn't even addressing police brutality. They're just destroying buildings and hurting lives of people who have nothing to do with any of this. Their anger is justified, but I hate that there are people defending their actions. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it.

so while we're burning down our buildings here, the other side of the world is trying to rise from the dust...

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A bunch of idiots using a tragedy just to loot and cause wreck less violence.
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Posted 4/28/15

SaeDVK wrote:

He told us, and this is word-for-word, "I've never met a police officer who was psychologically fit to carry a gun.".




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Over here in Germany police would just hose down the violent/law-breaking protesters, use tear gas, and clobber the aggressive ones before arresting them. It's usually fairly effective.

Though over in the US people are probably going to play the race card and twist the case in their favor.
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Im not sure people quite get this but this subject of a thread has been locked twice already, be prepared for a 3rd
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Didn't mods close that last thread because it got out of hand or something.

They said they're keeping a close eye on these particular threads. oh snap they big bro status.
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Well the mods are harder on us than the mayor is on the thugs in Baltimore.

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My view is it is proving to the police that the community needs way more surveillance and patrolling and stricter penalties. With the current penalties the community obviously doesn't care and will loot and vandalize. The community is doing this in retaliation of the police, but what they can't get through their heads is that they are only proving to the police more and more by the day that they can't handle life without the police at all.

Businesses being looted and damaged because maybe the business owner is white. They say it is racism of the police, but they counter that with EVEN more racism against their OWN community. Are they dumb or what? Even the mayor herself said they are not peaceful protesters, they are thugs and need to be arrested for their crimes toward the community. The mayor is African American herself, so there is no way this is racism alone. These people just want to take advantage of the chaos to let loose on their pent up rage and to loot and destroy stuff.

If I were the mayor and if the curfew does not work, I would call in the reserves if their local police departments cannot handle the riots. You need to show these aggressors that they are in the wrong and their behavior won't be tolerated in the community. Make some announcement that if the riots do not stop there will be mass arrests made against any aggressors. If the riots don't stop then they will just line up in Swat gear and shields and take aggressors one-by-one to jails.

Of course, reacting to riots with aggression and hauling people to jail isn't the best solution, but at the same time you can't just let them stay in the streets destroying stuff just because. Most of those people are just doing this for fun or to "fight the police" while calling themselves protesters. Like on the street if someone punches you, you have the right to knock them out so long as they hit you first so should the police. If the protesters get violent and attack them then slam them to the ground and arrest them. Maybe a few arrests will calm the crowd. It's also possible it would aggravate the crowd even more, but with persistence of the police they will eventually give up and go to peaceful protesting again.
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Didn't that black person run away from the police? So in a nutshell its his fault for running.
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Sogno- wrote:

i'm pretty pissed at people defending the rioters. just because some rich white people threw a huge riot because their fav team lost a game doesn't mean it's ok for these guys to riot too Oh, and it's not okay to try to stop the rioters either , apparently, because it gives the police more chance to be abusive to the civilians

it doesn't make sense. This isn't civil rights. This isn't even addressing police brutality. They're just destroying buildings and hurting lives of people who have nothing to do with any of this. Their anger is justified, but I hate that there are people defending their actions. I hate it, I hate it, I hate it.


Pretty much this. Officers are stuck between a rock and a hard place almost 99% of the time. If they don't do anything, they suck. If they do something, they abuse.

I heard the stem of the riots is because some people were calling the protesters names and stuff. I still don't think they should be destroying and looting, though. Like the post I quoted, I understand their frustration. But this isn't the way to solve it.
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TomCraft wrote:

Didn't that black person run away from the police? So in a nutshell its his fault for running.


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