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Freddie Gray and the Baltimore riots
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Posted 4/28/15

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I haven't heard about his spinal injuries, but with most cases of police brutality they bring up everything.
As someone stated before if he had medical care in a proper time setting he could still be here.
But again we will just have to wait to see what more comes into light.

The line is nice, but more so for the safety of protesters since I have heard LOTS of racists in the area,
Have been trying to urge protesters towards violence by harassing them.
Hopefully though things will settle down enough to where the national guard is called back.
And police can stop wearing the excessive amounts of amour.


Here is a link to one of our media outlet's reporter's Facebook page with his collage of the positives https://www.facebook.com/CurtAutryNBC12

I do have to disagree with your comment about protecting the protesters. The protesters are in no danger, and the police absolutely are. I saw videos from yesterday of rioters (not protesters) throwing rocks, bricks, and whatever else was handy at police while advancing on them using people holding signs as a shield. The police couldn't do anything - if they tried to subdue the people actually throwing things, they ran the risk of hitting other people that weren't. All they could do was back up and keep their shields up.
It has to be a scary thing to be a group of 20 officers with hundreds of people advancing towards you with intent to hurt you, and knowing that if you try to protect yourself, you will be seen as the bad guy.


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Ah fuck it, this whole kind of thing is just depressing. The police, the thugs, the internet response...
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“Freddie Gray had a pre-existing spinal and neck injury [from a car accident] and had severe damage and scar tissue from an accident that Allstate insurance was paying via a large structured settlement.

Freddie had several unsuccessful spinal fusion surgeries, and his most recent spinal/cervical operation was a week and a half before he was arrested. Freddie should have been at home in bed resting and recovering from this recent major operation.

If you look on Howard County Civil Court records you will find a case whereby Freddie Gray Jr. was trying to cash in his monthly structured Allstate settlement into a lump sum payout through Peachtree funding”.


So, the spinal and neck injury wasn't the police fault? Just asking.

And the fuck is with this person criminal background? holy fuck did that person even have a chance to begin with?
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Didn't that black person run away from the police? So in a nutshell its his fault for running.


Ran after just having major back and neck surgery as well.





I meant running before they caught him and his criminal back is fucking huge or his it average over there? Also he seems like a fucking drug dealer. For some reason after finding his criminal background, I really don't feel bad.
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TomCraft wrote:


VZ68 wrote:



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“Freddie Gray had a pre-existing spinal and neck injury [from a car accident] and had severe damage and scar tissue from an accident that Allstate insurance was paying via a large structured settlement.

Freddie had several unsuccessful spinal fusion surgeries, and his most recent spinal/cervical operation was a week and a half before he was arrested. Freddie should have been at home in bed resting and recovering from this recent major operation.

If you look on Howard County Civil Court records you will find a case whereby Freddie Gray Jr. was trying to cash in his monthly structured Allstate settlement into a lump sum payout through Peachtree funding”.


So, the spinal and neck injury wasn't the police fault? Just asking.

And the fuck is with this person criminal background? holy fuck did that person even have a chance to begin with?


That's the thing.

Dude just had major work done a couple of days before, from my understanding this was like the 4th time he has work done because surprise surprise, if you are walking around days after surgery, it isn't going to heal right.

So dude is walking around, runs from the police because he is a known drug dealer, they run him down and since his back and neck are already fucked up, it compounds and well, now Baltimore riots.



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TomCraft wrote:


VZ68 wrote:


TomCraft wrote:

Didn't that black person run away from the police? So in a nutshell its his fault for running.


Ran after just having major back and neck surgery as well.





I meant running before they caught him and his criminal back is fucking huge or his it average over there? Also he seems like a fucking drug dealer. For some reason after finding his criminal background, I really don't feel bad.


If I had that rap sheet, I'd still be in prison.

Hell, my rap sheet wouldn't be that big because I'd be in prison too much to get it that big. And to top it all off, guy had a huge settlement coming from Allstate Insurance.

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Police Brutality: I believe that a large number police abuse there power. That police should have to act rationally and be able to document accurately when they use force, attempt to take a life, or take a life. That any force used beyond the minimum necessary to achieve an arrest should not be permitted unless the suspect is clearly trying to harm or kill an officer or civilian. SOMETIMES THERE NOT RESISTING, THERE STUNNED BECAUSE YOU THREW THEM ON THE GROUND AND CLUBBED THEM IN THE HEAD. THERE BODY IS PROTECTING ITSELF; THEY CAN'T CONTROL IT ITS INSTINCT TO NOT LET THE BEAR MAUL THEM TO DEATH.

Protest are good. They open dialog and create Positive Outcomes.
Riots while they are effective at getting peoples attention they don't create dialog or positive outcomes. It the national guard (the states military) has to get invoked in a situation I believe it should be treated as a military situation. Personally I would be shooting people with rubber bullets for simply being suspicious If there was a curfew in place and they were outside. Curfew means don't go out side don't protest don't go to the gas station don't order pizza, go home and stay there until the sun comes out.

The underlying issue of poverty. Is its self perpetuating. Riots reinforce the stereotype that black people are criminals. The problem of racism still exists but reinforcing negative stereotypes does nothing to end this. Gangs are a huge problem and until the people in comunities especial Black and Hispanic communities address the issue legal jobs and revenue sources will not be developed. Why was the CVS burned down. I believe a gang stole the drugs and burned it. not all black people are in gangs i understand but its still a grave issue.
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Posted 4/29/15
There or their?
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Clsoing this one, quoting Bjaker in a previous thread about this subject:


Bjaker wrote:

While there are a few posts in this thread which actually bring up interesting conversation and truthfully shed light on the current situation in Baltimore, I find that people are using it more as an agenda to spread hate & disinformation.

I am locking this thread, but I'm not closing it, because I feel like this is a prime example of what sorts of discussions are not suitable for this website.

If it were an adult conversation with more realized and thought out responses I wouldn't mind trimming out a bad post now and then, but this is showing me that clearly, we as a community DO NOT have the knowledge to even speak on the topic.

I am truly sorry for what is currently happening in Baltimore and urge all of you to follow along credible news sources, as well as other social media outlets to make your own opinions of what is happening.

That said, any other topics opened on the subject will be monitored very closely and closed if the conversation becomes uncivil.

Regards,
-Baker


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