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Posted 4/29/15
How important is freedom to you?
Wen it comes to your country wen is it to much freedom?
Is there no such thing as to much freedom?



Just to see how your country ranks wen it comes to freedom I post some info.

Based on: Property Rights, Freedom From Corruption, Limited Government, Government Spending, Fiscal Freedom, Regulatory Efficiency, Business Freedom, Labor Freedom, Monetary Freedom, Open Markets, Trade Freedom, Investment Freedom, Financial Freedom

rank 1 Hong Kong 89.6 B+
rank 2 Singapore 89.4 B+
rank 3 New Zealand 82.1 B
rank 4 Australia 81.4 B
rank 5 Switzerland 80.5 B
rank 6 Canada 79.1 C+
rank 7 Chile 78.5 C+
rank 8 Estonia 76.8 C+
rank 9 Ireland 76.6 C+
rank 10 Mauritius 76.4 C+
rank 11 Denmark 76.3 C+
rank 12 United States 76.2 C+
rank 13 United Kingdom 75.8 C+

http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking

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as long as the right to bear arms is not touched im good.
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Give me everything, bitches.
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I feel there has to be a balance between freedom and control otherwise there is just lawlessness, take whats going on in Baltimore right now, they had the freedom to protest until things got violent and out of hand. When people start getting hurt due to choices others make because of said freedom is when freedom should end and control should start taking place. I understand why they are protesting but you can't hurt others while you're protesting our else it becomes what is known as a riot. Well that's my opinion at least.
Posted 4/29/15
pretty darn important



i think #4 is a pretty good reflection of the freedom here in Aus. there's not much corruption here. and if there is, it's dealt with pretty quickly and swiftly. and insurance companies have to cover everyone regardless of their age or sickness.

I think the policies here are great.

i despise the corruptions in the poorer countries; it's like do you not feel any guilt for enjoying yourselves while your fellow citizens are dying and starving? that's why i never have any fun when i'm visiting those countries, i see so many victims on the streets who are not being taken care of... can't enjoy my time in such places.

i prefer to visit countries that aren't corrupted, even if they're more expensive. at least the government are taking care of their citizens properly.
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The illusion of freedom is good enough for me.

Stick my mind inside a VRMMO and you can use me as a human battery for all I care.
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Huh. I was about to flaunt my horribly depressed side, but then I realized that a magician never reveals his secrets. Can't go blurting out my world domination plans, can I?
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I'd always been interested in living in Singapore.
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International comparisons and indices are pretty complicated, and at the end of the day it's all down to what you specifically consider most important. Sure, by the Index of Economic Freedom Denmark is (overall) slightly more economically free than the US, so one might think the two are somewhat comparable and that it's simply a question of whether one would wish to be slightly freer or not.

If one goes over to the Human Development Index and examines the inequality figures, however, the difference between the two becomes rather staggering. If you adjust the HDI for the US and Denmark to account for human inequality based on indicators such as income, life expectancy, and education Denmark is the far more developed country. If you look at things from a GDP perspective, however, the USA is running circles around Denmark. If we go to the sex indicators Denmark wins out again since fewer women are dying in childbirth, more women are in parliament as a percentage of the overall available seats, far fewer adolescent girls and women are becoming pregnant, and labour force participation is roughly comparable. If we go to the human security figures once again, Denmark wins since everyone at pensioner age is receiving a pension and both the homicide and incarceration rates are in different galaxies. If you look at the employment security index things tilt back and forth a bit. Denmark has lower youth unemployment, the US has lower long-term unemployment, the US has a higher employment to population ratio, and both have roughly comparable unemployment rates for those 15 or older. We could go on, but the point is made: there's a lot to look at, and performance varies even more than that.

Once you add in all this complexity brought on by the additional figures (and the further complexity in analyses and comparisons thereof I haven't gotten into) it really ceases to be a question of "would you prefer to be economically freer, or are you willing to accept being less economically free" and more a question of "what sort of society would you like to live in?" We've just looked at two relatively equally economically free societies by the Index of Economic Freedom, and yet Danish society as described by the above figures seems the better deal to me. It comes with really good human development and quality of life indicators, respectable (though not overpowering) economic indicators, generally excellent performance in terms of sustaining socioeconomic equality, and a good public and economic safety record. Nevertheless, someone else might instead put more importance on the ability to accumulate enormous amounts of wealth and be more willing to accept the risks entailed in the sort of society which grants that ability, and so would prefer to stray from what Denmark is doing to generate the figures it is.

Of course, then the question gets even more complicated once diplomatic relations are taken into account. Denmark comes with the EU and all its baggage, the US comes with the baggage associated with foreign policy which has to take essentially the entire globe into account, both come with baggage associated with NATO's activities, there's no perfect place on Earth and one could write volumes on why one or the other is "better". So I'll simply cap it at I would prefer a more equal, economically safe society which is willing to compromise some sorts of economic freedom while sustaining others.
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I'd join a revolution to overthrow my dictatorial government, if they try to curtail my freedom....

Wait a minute!

Homeland Security.... Patriot Act.... The NSA, FBI, and CIA, illegally spying on American citizens....

I wonder why we ain't revolting now?
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DeadlyOats wrote:

I'd join a revolution to overthrow my dictatorial government, if they try to curtail my freedom....

Wait a minute!

Homeland Security.... Patriot Act.... The NSA, FBI, and CIA, illegally spying on American citizens....

I wonder why we ain't revolting now?


As has been plainly demonstrated by decades of terms of use agreements, people will agree to whatever you want if you simply bury it in a wall of text which is nigh impenetrable by the typical reader, whether that be because the language is too complicated or it would simply take too long to read everything.

...that, and it's baseball season. Wouldn't want to miss it. Also, the US military has a lot of tanks, jets, and ships. I mean, A LOT of tanks, jets, and ships.
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As someone who can regularly run the risk of writing too much for a simple discussion forum. I loved your post.
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I'm not into bondage, so quite a bit.
Posted 4/30/15
The mind is the greatest prison and all that. It's an anime site, we are all running.
Posted 4/30/15
The more one thirsts for freedom and anarchy the nuttier it begins to sound, like those morons on Doomsday Preppers. Freedom and Capitalism is very important to me as a person and as an entrepreneur, rather than bitch and rebel maybe you should leave?
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