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Should insane people be executed?
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Posted 5/1/15 , edited 5/4/15
Should the death penalty extend to the mentally ill.

Well... personally, I've always felt the death penalty is more humane than life in prison, and I'm sure life in a mental ward isn't much better.
And if someone kills for ridiculous reasons, they should never be let out. So to me, the death penalty is more humane than a meaningless life.

And insane/evil are two different things but can coexist. The girls who murdered their friend to summon slenderman for example. They're crazy to belive in slenderman, but they're also evil.
It'd be one thing if they killed her becuase they thought she was possessed by slenderman, or they thought killing her would prevent something like that.. but no.
Even taking their delusion into account, they not only killed, but with the purpose of summoning an evil monster... So if you take their delusions seriously, that means they're even worse.

I think if you can prove that someone is delusional, then judge them by their intentions. If their intentions were to do something bad, then I feel their insanity should be irrelevant.
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Why are people on this forum obsessed with executions...
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Why are people on this forum obsessed with executions...


it's a fun subject
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There's already an ongoing/active thread about executions. This isn't really needed as you could simply pose the question there.

As a side note: Weren't you banned just a day or so ago?
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First or all, Insanity is a legal term, not a medical one. The term 'insanity' is no longer used by the American Psychiatric Association, and the term 'mental disorder' is used instead.

In the US, the legal definition in most states of insanity is "not knowing right from wrong". For the Insanity Plea an independent forensic evaluation must be done in or outpatient and submitted to the courts and made available to both prosecution and defense.

Two things are looked at. First, is the person competent to stand trial, and second, it must be established if the person AT THE TIME OF THE OFFENSE could have appreciated the wrongfulness of his or her actions. This is determined by careful forensic evaluation by forensic psychologists and psychiatrists and a team of professionals using arrest reports and evidence as well as psychiatric background of the defendant and careful observation. It is also the job of mental health professionals to check for malingering (faking an illness to escape legal culpability or avoid prison via an insanity defense).


To answer your question, no, if the person is found incompetent or insane and didn't understand the wrongfulness of his or her actions he or she should not be imprisoned or put to death, but hospitalized indefinitely until found to be no longer a threat to society.

The irony is if they get convicted they may get out faster than if found NGRI (NG by reason of insanity). A person can be found competent and legally sane but be mentally ill, be found sane but be nonetheless disturbed., alternatively they can be declared Guilty but Mentally Ill and that can bear mitigating legal culpability.
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DanteVSTheWorld wrote:

Why are people on this forum obsessed with executions...

since it was released into the readers mind when it popup so much.
also they should not be executed.. but if you can't "fix" them then send them to the clean "hell" on earth that is insanity at its best.
jk would not have done that its too cruel even some torture (unless really extreme by pro's) can't top that.
But I would like to keep them in check if they can't be controlled and is way too dangerous to be let out close to people (since only that can turn them insane) so it really depends on how they can be triggerd or how much help they can get to "fix" it, but I don't really want to push them away either.

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First or all, Insanity is a legal term, not a medical one. The term 'insanity' is no longer used by the American Psychiatric Association, and the term 'mental disorder' is used instead.


To answer your question, no, if the person is found incompetent or insane and didn't understand the wrongfulness of his or her actions he or she should not be imprisoned or put to death, but hospitalized indefinitely until found to be no longer a threat to society.

like what this shows?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xwc__dmdeE

and is it not why we got mental hospital that didn't work that great?
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dotsforlife wrote:

There's already an ongoing/active thread about executions. This isn't really needed as you could simply pose the question there.

As a side note: Weren't you banned just a day or so ago?


yea... over a fat joke
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dotsforlife wrote:

There's already an ongoing/active thread about executions. This isn't really needed as you could simply pose the question there.

As a side note: Weren't you banned just a day or so ago?


yea... over a fat joke


Kind of silly given the context of many existing threads already. Though I suppose if it's directed at someone in particular I could see why, otherwise that's just silly.
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You haven't learned silver have you, the ban was a warning...means not to do stupid stuff again, perhaps you like being banned and enjoy it so you cause trouble.

Oh well i guess stupid people don't learn...

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Posted 5/1/15

dotsforlife wrote:


silversongwriter wrote:


dotsforlife wrote:

There's already an ongoing/active thread about executions. This isn't really needed as you could simply pose the question there.

As a side note: Weren't you banned just a day or so ago?


yea... over a fat joke


Kind of silly given the context of many existing threads already. Though I suppose if it's directed at someone in particular I could see why, otherwise that's just silly.


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Posted 5/1/15

dotsforlife wrote:

There's already an ongoing/active thread about executions. This isn't really needed as you could simply pose the question there.

As a side note: Weren't you banned just a day or so ago?


There are actually several capital punishment threads that are active now.


As for this topic no, I don't believe mentally ill people should be executed despite being in favor of executions in general. I am perfectly fine with them being given treatment and hope of actually becoming well.
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silversongwriter wrote:


dotsforlife wrote:


silversongwriter wrote:


dotsforlife wrote:

There's already an ongoing/active thread about executions. This isn't really needed as you could simply pose the question there.

As a side note: Weren't you banned just a day or so ago?


yea... over a fat joke


Kind of silly given the context of many existing threads already. Though I suppose if it's directed at someone in particular I could see why, otherwise that's just silly.


I bragged about my high metabolism and jokingly mocked those trying too hard to loose weight


Shouldn't be surprised then.
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dotsforlife wrote:

There's already an ongoing/active thread about executions. This isn't really needed as you could simply pose the question there.

As a side note: Weren't you banned just a day or so ago?


There are actually several capital punishment threads that are active now.


As for this topic no, I don't believe mentally ill people should be executed despite being in favor of executions in general. I am perfectly fine with them being given treatment and hope of actually becoming well.


If I were insane and killed because I thought killing would prevent the apocalypse, I can understand

But if I killed as a sacrifice to bring about the apocalypse, that's very different
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