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Also, your uncaring for their corruption is typical of a U.S. Citizen. But this topic isn't if you care about it, it's if you do anything about it, but I guess you do neither.


Magic Soul, how do I not care? Just because I don't have the exact same belifs as you does not mean that I don't care. I do care a lot it has affected my life. But at the same time I understand the need for law enforcment agencies. Not every cop is a gun weilding thug that needs to lose his job. I have also met some good cops one who died in the line of duty. I can honestly say I have experienced both kinds. Please don't try to say wehter or not someone cares because you are not them and you do not know them.
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History shows us that nothing is ever solved by violence. In the event a coup is successful and a new government is established, resentment and hatred begin to brew among the oppressed, sometimes building up for decades. The Baltimore Riots are a shorter-term example of this. When a community feels oppressed for generations it is never forgotten, and it is like a thirst that cannot be quenched by vengeance. What those rioters did was in vain.

The only hope for change is done productively, civil. To answer OP I obey the laws and leave my voice to the electronic pen come election day. Apart from running for office myself or god forbid enlisting and dying (Yes I would do it.) , the ONLY acceptible, LAWFUL violent solution, those are my terms.
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I usually try to concern myself only with my own business and things that are of very immediate relevance. I'm not very active in promoting widespread change but I can see myself being put in a situation that makes me promote. It might be possible to persuade me to be more active but I recognize myself to be a human being with very limited power. Sadly, that means I am more selfish than I wish to be.

There's always going to be corruption but I think there's a certain threshold at which it becomes so bad that it becomes unacceptable. Of course, it's always bad, but I do think people need to learn some tolerance. Not tolerance for what is bad, so to speak, but tolerance for things that offend them. For their own sake. It's usually best to take care of the most pressing and immediate issues first.

I do admire people who strive to make positive and practical changes but I am not a person who usually concerns himself much with the doings of others. I think people should be left alone to deal with their own issues first before others step in to help. I'm not the type who is a first responder. I prefer to sit back and watch things unfold a little before deciding what I want to do.

Needlessly filing lawsuits is silly, IMO. All that does is bog down the already overburdened system. Nobody has time to deal with that and it's a waste of everyone's time and money. I understand fighting a ticket but I don't understand lawsuit spam over slight issues.

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Magical-Soul

Cops aren't hired to do good deeds.

This isn't 1467, these aren't elected men out to uphold a peaceful contract(constitution),

These are people out to catch you without seat belts, if you're registered, etc. So contrary to popular belief. All cops that remain cops are bad, the job requires them to violate rights

EDIT: North West Amexem is the old name for "Ame"rica

Also, your uncaring for their corruption is typical of a U.S. Citizen. But this topic isn't if you care about it, it's if you do anything about it, but I guess you do neither.


I disagree. If you've ever gone through an interview like the ones officers go through, you'd change that view. A lot of the interview is based on morals and values. Trying to dig out the interviewee's personality. They wouldn't want an officer that keeps harassing the citizens. Too much liability. Unless the agency itself is in the same boat, which in that you should blame the admins not the officers. I still get what you're trying to say, though. The system is still pretty bad in a lot of locations.

Also boohoo that they're out to enforce the law because law enforcement.


To be honest, I agree. I don't hate the cops, I do hate politicians however. If cops didn't have to enforce unjust laws, less people would hate them. I hate all politicians who seek to destroy freedom and I feel assassinations should be the first order of business, if the vote fails to get rid of them. Like that pig dictator Reagan. Wish that guy didn't get in the way and let that shot cap him. He was a mongrol warlord and general of the war on drugs... Like Nixxon, and Bush, and the Republicans. Like the DEA itself he funded. Every penny given to the DEA is another coin in the nazi funding jar.The monster was a blood thirsty hell hound bent to suck freedom away from Americans.

The federal government are the real domestic terrorists. DEA is the American SS. The prohibitionists in the government are nothing greedy nazis.
A man spending one minute in jail is a greater tragedy than the loss of 10,000 DEA agents
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History shows us that nothing is ever solved by violence. In the event a coup is successful and a new government is established, resentment and hatred begin to brew among the oppressed, sometimes building up for decades. The Baltimore Riots are a shorter-term example of this. When a community feels oppressed for generations it is never forgotten, and it is like a thirst that cannot be quenched by vengeance. What those rioters did was in vain.

The only hope for change is done productively, civil. To answer OP I obey the laws and leave my voice to the electronic pen come election day. Apart from running for office myself or god forbid enlisting and dying (Yes I would do it.) , the ONLY acceptible, LAWFUL violent solution, those are my terms.


Unfortunately this does not always work either. Do not get me wrong I applaud your morals and for the most part agree with you. However should it ever get so bad that we can no longer recognise our country as a democracy I must say the lawful solution will never work. However it is important to note we have not yet reached that stage. Further a successful revolution is a rare occurrence and you are absolutely right to try to pursue every other alternative before that.
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To be honest, I agree. I don't hate the cops, I do hate politicians however. If cops didn't have to enforce unjust laws, less people would hate them. I hate all politicians who seek to destroy freedom and I feel assassinations should be the first order of business, if the vote fails to get rid of them. Like that pig dictator Reagan. Wish that guy didn't get in the way and let that shot cap him. He was a mongrol warlord and general of the war on drugs... Like Nixxon, and Bush, and the Republicans. Like the DEA itself he funded. Every penny given to the DEA is another coin in the nazi funding jar.The monster was a blood thirsty hell hound bent to suck freedom away from Americans.

The federal government are the real domestic terrorists. DEA is the American SS. The prohibitionists in the government are nothing greedy nazis


I wish more people could think like you, but unfortunately, the majority of the US actually think that those of the Muslim faith are our doom. Wow, please. Also, a lot of officers actually quit because their agencies pull fast ones of them or don't allow them to leave that agency. It's pretty bad. I base this on my own experience.
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Amaya- wrote:

History shows us that nothing is ever solved by violence. In the event a coup is successful and a new government is established, resentment and hatred begin to brew among the oppressed, sometimes building up for decades. The Baltimore Riots are a shorter-term example of this. When a community feels oppressed for generations it is never forgotten, and it is like a thirst that cannot be quenched by vengeance. What those rioters did was in vain.

The only hope for change is done productively civil. To answer OP I obey the laws and leave my voice to the electronic pen come election day.Apart from running for office myself or god forbid enlisting and dying (Yes I would do it.) , the ONLY acceptible, LAWFUL violent solution, those are my terms.


Wrong. The baltimore rioters have the right idea, they just aren't sufficiently distressed. This whole thing about "racist" police officers is more absurd than kirito-kun on a tricycle. They just want an excuse to do things such as stealing. The electronic pen is utterly useless and will be quickly washed out by the several thousand other electronic pens. Challenging the governments monopoly on violence is the most revolutionary thing u can do given ur very limited influence as a crunchyroll subscriber. If u intend on being civil about it, well u might as well just give up and go back to beta cheating or beating.
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Uh what? Drivers licence is a good thing


Okay, so the asinine part of my mind wants to laugh at you.

The sensible part of my brain wants to educate you on what a driver's license is.

But I'm gonna choose option 3. I'll let people think what they want and stick to the topic.
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silversongwriter

To be honest, I agree. I don't hate the cops, I do hate politicians however. If cops didn't have to enforce unjust laws, less people would hate them. I hate all politicians who seek to destroy freedom and I feel assassinations should be the first order of business, if the vote fails to get rid of them. Like that pig dictator Reagan. Wish that guy didn't get in the way and let that shot cap him. He was a mongrol warlord and general of the war on drugs... Like Nixxon, and Bush, and the Republicans. Like the DEA itself he funded. Every penny given to the DEA is another coin in the nazi funding jar.The monster was a blood thirsty hell hound bent to suck freedom away from Americans.

The federal government are the real domestic terrorists. DEA is the American SS. The prohibitionists in the government are nothing greedy nazis


I wish more people could think like you, but unfortunately, the majority of the US actually think that those of the Muslim faith are our doom. Wow, please. Also, a lot of officers actually quit because their agencies pull fast ones of them or don't allow them to leave that agency. It's pretty bad. I base this on my own experience.


Don't get it twisted, I still support fighting against Islamic terrorism.
I don't really like Israel, and it's not for their sake, but I feel ISIS may one day be a threat to the USA. So I think we should fight them. Preferably using DEA agents as human shields against AK-47fire
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Don't get it twisted, I still support fighting against Islamic terrorism.
I don't really like Israel, and it's not for their sake, but I feel ISIS may one day be a threat to the USA. So I think we should fight them. Preferably using DEA agents as human shields against AK-47fire


Sounds fair enough, but I don't see you being the type to harass these people just based on their religion or race which has been on the increase since 9/11. I do agree that the terrorists groups should be stopped.
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silversongwriter

Don't get it twisted, I still support fighting against Islamic terrorism.
I don't really like Israel, and it's not for their sake, but I feel ISIS may one day be a threat to the USA. So I think we should fight them. Preferably using DEA agents as human shields against AK-47fire


Sounds fair enough, but I don't see you being the type to harass these people just based on their religion or race which has been on the increase since 9/11. I do agree that the terrorists groups should be stopped.


Oh, nah, I'm not racist or anything. I mean, if our job is to wipe out terrorist, regardless of the motive, we're helping Islamic middle eastern people. Of course there's corruption, which is just a reality of war, but ideally, the war on terror should benefit muslims
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Oh, nah, I'm not racist or anything. I mean, if our job is to wipe out terrorist, regardless of the motive, we're helping Islamic middle eastern people. Of course there's corruption, which is just a reality of war, but ideally, the war on terror should benefit muslims


Glad to clear that up. I think it'll benefit them about half a century from now or so.



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The sensible part of my brain wants to educate you on what a driver's license is.

But I'm gonna choose option 3. I'll let people think what they want and stick to the topic.


I can see why you complain about the driver's license, but I see DLs being a better help and less of a scam compared to Car Insurance. DLs help separate those hazardous drivers from regular drivers. For the most part. If you aren't going to explain your opinion on it, you've got yourself a pretty stale image considering you open up the thread.
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Magical-Soul wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

Uh what? Drivers licence is a good thing


Okay, so the asinine part of my mind wants to laugh at you.

The sensible part of my brain wants to educate you on what a driver's license is.

But I'm gonna choose option 3. I'll let people think what they want and stick to the topic.


Do what u want.

I couldn't care less at this point. You obviously think everything you say is dead right.
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Magical-Soul wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

Uh what? Drivers licence is a good thing


Okay, so the asinine part of my mind wants to laugh at you.

The sensible part of my brain wants to educate you on what a driver's license is.

But I'm gonna choose option 3. I'll let people think what they want and stick to the topic.


Actually... Is there some kind of fucked up shit about Drivers Licenses? Educate me, I'm open minded. Either I'll agree with you or I'll call you stupid and judge you... kidding...

I woudln't be surprised... the government is fucked up, and I'm sure there may be some secret shit we don't know about.
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