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Contrary to popular belief (that America is the worst country when it comes to racism) nearly any major nation in this day and age is racist. Japan being one of them isn't a surprise. I myself never experienced any when I visited there for 2 weeks but then again I'm American and white so that generally goes smoothly in most countries. You should see India, any asian country, France, and many others that are the same way. If you aren't one of them or what they deem as "good for business" you might as well expect different treatment. Sad but true.


Lol Indians range in skin tone. They can be as light as a German and as dark as a Ethiopian.


Yup, and they are extremely racist towards certain people even though they resemble in tone some of those people.
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dotsforlife wrote:


Yup, and they are extremely racist towards certain people even though they resemble in tone some of those people.


Probably, I always thought of it as Indians generally hate anyone who isn't them or in their immediate family. But they do it in the nicest way.


Also am I seeing what appears to be sympathizers here? How the fuck? Can't be...
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Yeah the racism in Japan is tough, but it's not surprising.
I'm currently in college and my roommate is an international student from Japan and he's extremely racist towards me (I'm black by the way). Day one he acted nice and cool, but after that his actions towards me is very judgmental. He looks at me as if I'm not equal to him and we never talk to each other and if we do, it's an argument. I feel that in America we focus so much on black and white racism that we forget that other countries are just as racist. Either way, even though racism in Japan is present, everyone there isn't racist, just like America.
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Recently in Japan Ariana Miyamoto a half black half Japanese woman was crowned Miss Universe Japan.
However this decission was met with a huge backlash from the Japanese community.
Saying she doesn't look Japanese enough to represent them and that they deserve a full blooded Japanese. Some even going so far as to say her skin is too black and that she's ugly.
Not living up to Japan's white skin beauty standards.
What be done to change Japan's attitude towards foreigners and mixed races?


Where your source?
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Jeffanime1 wrote:

Recently in Japan Ariana Miyamoto a half black half Japanese woman was crowned Miss Universe Japan.
However this decission was met with a huge backlash from the Japanese community.
Saying she doesn't look Japanese enough to represent them and that they deserve a full blooded Japanese. Some even going so far as to say her skin is too black and that she's ugly.
Not living up to Japan's white skin beauty standards.
What be done to change Japan's attitude towards foreigners and mixed races?


Where your source?


A simple Google of "Miss Universe Japan facing racism" brings you plenty. I'm sure the more racially motivated comments on more so on the Japanese end of the media. Probably won't see as much from another countries media articles.
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In most of Asia I get the impression that they don't even really have a concept of racism--at least not the way we think about it. The idea of racial equality is mostly a Western concept. I know when I was in China everyone was very upfront about their racial prejudices and refer to stereotypes as if they're facts. My Thai in-laws are the same way. It's really shocking sometimes.

Japanese people are well educated and I know that there are people there who believe in racial equality but I get the impression that they are the liberal fringe. That country is homogeneous and has a long, insular history of xenophobia. More telling than this Miss America incident is the popularity of the former Tokyo Governor Shintaro Ishihara (Google him) who was a world-famous racist and xenophobe.

It's all fine and good to say "there's racism everywhere" because that's true but if you don't accept that Japan is more xenophobic (it isn't just race, they're also quite nasty towards people from other Asian nations) than most places then you're probably deluding yourself.
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might want to post a better source than [s]dailymail[/s]

but yea, there's racism, and not just against those from African decent, but also for anyone who may look too western.
other Asians living in Japan also experience racism, but because of their looks, they sort of blend-in.
some establishment will refuse to let "non-Japanese" people in, with a sign that reads along the lines of "No western guests allowed"
those are not that common though.
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Yeah but I know that feeling though.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/be/87/f1/be87f1711ba538dcf542ae582d9e6164.jpg
its like that where old beauty that they had for so long about white makeup and how the tradisons where of what was beauty and not.
So I think it comes back to how its used to be and they don't want that to icon thier beauty when it does not have thier traits that they had before and kept for so long.

It could be like if an american should have won with no real resembles of asian beauty it would feel totaly wrong for her to win would it not?
And become the icon for something they don't look like or whats thier "real" beauty.
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I'd like to also point out that even if a person is racist towards you in another country, they will generally be a lot more accepting of you if you speak their language and abide by their customs. Being fluent in Japanese and using it 100% of the time while I was there may have been why I had no issues from anyone.
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it's not about being fluent in the language
it's about following the conventions and being polite
this goes for pretty much any country.
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namealreadytaken wrote:

it's not about being fluent in the language
it's about following the conventions and being polite
this goes for pretty much any country.


As a sole reason no, but being fluent is definitely a way to get on said countries good side. For instance, if you go to France and you are American you're probably not going to be well liked. If they see you speaking French or at least making a genuine attempt at it to conform to their ways then they are much more accepting of you. You're right about the rest. It all helps for sure.
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Whoa she is gorgeous.
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I think that the physical features are secondary in a competition like this, if she is able to respect and express the culture of her country then she will make a great representation of what her country is about, and that's what matters in these kind of competitions.
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Aye, as others have said, racism is of course a big deal in most places. It's not really surprising, sadly. It's unfortunate, but true, that our brains are biologically wired to differentiate based on simple appearance, and to support tribalistic ideas. I believe it is important for a society to realize that it's simply an illusion and to get over it, but in a mostly homogenous locale, it's unlikely to show up until a situation like this.

That said, as others have again mentioned, this is the response from internet folk. Japan's net is already far more derisive and shitposty than the country itself. It's the same everywhere I imagine. People with ugly opinions like these are more likely to express them behind the mask of anonymity.
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