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saprobe wrote:


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Miss any nation should look like the people of that nation. The exception of that would be America since it is not just one set of people.

Miss Japan should be Japanese, it would be the same if Miss Kenya was white. I don't really get the who miss universe thing but I fail to see how not wanting a half black girl to be miss japan is racist.


We're not talking about dog breeds here. There are no predetermined set of physical criteria for "being Japanese". She's not going for Best in Show at Westminster and she's not a Shiba Inu: She's a person--a person who was born and raised in Japan. She is Japanese.


You get it. This thread is full of people are not very subtle in their racism. It's repulsive.


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Boycott their shit and let them sink deeper into economic recession.


You go first. Stop watching anime and reading manga....



You see the thing is, I can enjoy their media without supporting them financially. Legally too. Also I like how studios like Madhouse and Bones are becoming more responsible on their depiction of blacks.


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Every country is racist.


Every country has racists in it. But that can change for the better.
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kakashi2k7 wrote:

Every country is racist.


Every country has racists in it. But that can change for the better.

Over time this flawed way of thinking will die off and be replaced with a more modernized view on the matter. Not to say racism will be nonexistent, because it always will, but it should improve over time regardless of how some people feel.

On a side note, your avatar reminds me of Deus Ex Machina from Mirai Nikki every time I look at it lol. That or some kind of Pokemon
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Its like taking a tiger on a lion contest. (we do have different races for a reason aisan, western and natives etc)

We do have different looks and body builds (face, body, color and more)

But only if this contest was for Miss Japan title or something very close else I would not mind saying she would be the best looking in japan but not as the best looking icon for Japan.


So if this is the case then I whole heartly agree with them (not the hatefull guys with treates etc)
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Happencheese wrote:


saprobe wrote:
he's a person--a person who was born and raised in Japan. She is Japanese.

Exactly! Man, that was such a racist comment...

Yes she is maybe born in japan still that takes not out the fact she does not over all look like Japanese....
She got a more western, not asian look or build, but I don't say should not be in a contest about beauty only not for one that would be the icon for a whole Asian population that would be wrong.
(still is it a contest that big to make the winner as the Japan's big idol/icon if not then I am wrong)
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mordant221 wrote:

Yeah, the Japanese are fairly racist, but that goes for most homogeneous nations.


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To them it's unusual to see because the population is mostly Asians. Of course someone is going to stick out if their skin color is different or their eyes aren't the same and so on. But they did go a little far with this one to be honest.
Mostly Japanese you mean, they don't treat other Asians very well either. Filipinos are relegated to working low level menial jobs, particularly the women. Koreans can't vote, even if they are 2nd or 3rd generation citizens. The Chinese are treated nearly as bad as the Filipinos. Western European and Caucasian Americans are treated the best, even so, they shouldn't over stay their welcome.

Even though it's 2015, the Japanese are still closed off culturally compared to every other developed nation.




BINGO! Someone finally got it right.
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dotsforlife wrote:


kakashi2k7 wrote:

Every country is racist.


Every country has racists in it. But that can change for the better.


Over time this flawed way of thinking will die off and be replaced with a more modernized view on the matter. Not to say racism will be nonexistent, because it always will, but it should improve over time regardless of how some people feel.

On a side note, your avatar reminds me of Deus Ex Machina from Mirai Nikki every time I look at it lol. That or some kind of Pokemon :P


Hisoka-dragon is the best.

Soon enough education and class will surpass race as what people use to look down and discriminate in personal talk in my opinion. It's all pointless.
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the reason why I suspect Japan has its fair share of racism is probably because

a. it's a dominantly homozygous nation & society consisting mainly of naturalized Japanese, and if not Japanese, then other East Asians with similar appearances TO the Japanese. People of European, African, Middle Eastern, etc descent have different facial features and even hafus (aka half Japanese people) don't look completely Japanese in most cases, due to their heritage.

While the "western beauty standard" of large eyes "double eyelids" among other things is popularized in Japan, because Japan is so homozygous and not as hybridized/mixed as countries like America, Canada, the UK, and so on, westerners -- or people from other nations -- are considered to be "odd" and are more likely to face discriminatory, rude, or questionable behavior from the Japanese.

b. WWII tensions are still on some Japanese's minds when it comes to relationships, friendships, or even dealing with foreigners, the elder ones at least.

c. lastly, speaking of elders, the Japanese population's top tier is, as it has been reported, the elders. The elders are from the "older generation" which dealt with constraints, poorer relations between Japan & western countries. So ergo, their perception of certain western countries may be negatively connotative as supposed to positive.
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To be fair, they have a point. it is called "Miss Japan" so she should be japanese.

It's the same with all of these talent shows like America's Got Talent, Britian's Got Talent, etc. Well, the clue is in the name of the programme. The contestsants should be from that country.
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eclair-lumiere wrote:

To be fair, they have a point. it is called "Miss Japan" so she should be japanese.

It's the same with all of these talent shows like America's Got Talent, Britian's Got Talent, etc. Well, the clue is in the name of the programme. The contestsants should be from that country.


She is from that country - she was born there and is biologically half Japanese.
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Recently in Japan Ariana Miyamoto a half black half Japanese woman was crowned Miss Universe Japan.
However this decission was met with a huge backlash from the Japanese community.
Saying she doesn't look Japanese enough to represent them and that they deserve a full blooded Japanese. Some even going so far as to say her skin is too black and that she's ugly.
Not living up to Japan's white skin beauty standards.
What be done to change Japan's attitude towards foreigners and mixed races?

On a positive note I am glad she was chosen, so at least there ARE some Japanese people with open minds.

Sources: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/meet-ariana-miyamoto-first-biracial-miss-universe-japan/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3021032/First-mixed-race-Miss-Japan-Ariana-Myamoto-hits-spasmodic-vomit-racial-abuse-suffered-father-African-American.html

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-06/biracial-japan-beauty-queen-wants-open-minds-and-borders


I don't think it's fair (well, you know how we are in the US :D) for us to call Japan (or any other country's) ethnicity/racial views "racist". I think we are so used to imposing our morals and cultulral standards onto every country we "help out" or invade, or "CIA-leader-assassinate", that we kinda forget that the world is different from the US.

In the US we shouldn't stand racism, because, well, that's one of our cornerstones. Freedom and equality are our foundation. America is all about welcoming everyone in, so that everyone can have better, more equal and free lives. (At the Native Americans' expense, but that's another drama).

Now, JAPAN isn't all about opening its borders and welcoming everyone in. They shouldn't be held to THE SAME standard our people and government hold ourselves to. The fact is most people in Asia, are Asian. They never signed up for tolerating other races (although it's far better if they did.) Unlike America, Asia isn't a melting pot of ethnicities and cultures... so I mean, I don't think it's fair to call their practices racist.

But anyway, the whole world is moving towards anti-racism (probably due to the US's influence, yeah. It's for the best anyway), so I'm sure the aforementioned is a moot point. But, I'm just saying: please try to understand that the world isn't /supposed/ to be like America.

And on that note, I see nothing wrong with the Japanese wanting a full-blood Japanese girl representing Japan as Miss Japan. Of course, if people in the US got really angry that Miss America was Japanese or Black - I'd be really angry. The Caucasians aren't the master race of America.
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If she was half white they would accept her.
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Oh, i didn't know that. I thought she was from a different country entirely. Well if she was actually born there then i don't really see a problem.
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I'd imagine that an aversion to anyone that doesn't look like a native citizen would be quite common in a country where foreigners make up just 1.5% of the total population. The preference for white skin is something that isn't exclusive to Japan. It's quite common in many Asian and African countries.
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Well, she won didn't she? So not all of Japan is like that. But seeing a backlash like that isn't all that surprising given the demographic in that country. If this contest took place in somewhere like Sweden I'm sure the reactions would be somewhat similar.

On a side-note, she is extremely pretty.
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