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Arguably the UK has a bigger problem with its Frist pass-the-post system which is in desperate need of reform. While everyone who voted for the Conservatives has a democratic right to do so, the Conservative Party or any other party for that matter should (in my opinion) not be able to form a government when over 60% of the electorate do not vote for said party. This is made more important by the fact that last time that a UK government was elected with more than 50% of the vote was in 1931.


I was wondering how is it possible to get more than 50% of the citizens vote since i'm not familiar with all the parties you could vote for. By going by a other posters chart it seems you have over 12 options. Just by all the parties alone it will be near impossible to get that much support. Although I do agree that the majority of the citizenry should support whoever wins even if they may disagree with the views of said party. In America i'm no fan of our current administration but I still pay my taxes, obey the laws, and continue to support my country although I do wish we could have more than two options. Every one says we have three libertarian but it is extremely unlikely one would ever get the white house in my life time. Know I find it funny you have to many options while your brothers down here in America only have 2 relevant parties.
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Looking at that table you posted I have to wonder. Why so many parties? That seems like a problem in and of itself. I'm not well educated on Englands government so feel free to explain. :)

The thing is those are all the parties representing all parts of the UK. Also England doesn't have a devolved government they just have the UK one.
In other parts of the UK though, different parties are needed.

The most obvious example is in Northern Ireland where we have parties like the Democratic Unionist Party and the Ulster Unionists representing Unionists and Sinn Fein and the SDLP representing Nationalists. The Northern Irish parliament has a complicated history, so it has it's own parties, who are often fiercely supported, meaning bigger UK parties can't get in. I think the Alliance is in between?

In Scotland it's really between the SNP and Labour, with only some farmers and rich people voting Conservative. The SNP started around the time when the Scottish parliament was founded and many of it's supporters (though not all) want independence. A full-UK party would never support that.

I'm not an expert on Wales, but Plaid Cymru will be a similar Welsh thing. Yeah, just checked, they want independence too.

I think "Others" are independent people.


Makes sense given all the other lands they own. Thanks for the info.
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It isn't completely false. And of course i don't get information from facebook. I don't even go on there.

Nigel Farrage was reported in the news for saying homophobic comments which he refused to apologise for. It's been ongoing in the news that various MP's for UKIP have been suspended due to scandals such as this. UKIP's main financial sponsor believes that women should not be allowed to wear trousers. And there have also been reports of UKIP ideas such as "bring back the cane" "have being gay cured on the NHS" and "legalise handguns"

Google it.
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It isn't completely false. And of course i don't get information from facebook. I don't even go on there.

Nigel Farrage was reported in the news for saying homophobic comments which he refused to apologise for. It's been ongoing in the news that various MP's for UKIP have been suspended due to scandals such as this. UKIP's main financial sponsor believes that women should not be allowed to wear trousers. And there have also been reports of UKIP ideas such as "bring back the cane" "have being gay cured on the NHS" and "legalise handguns"

Google it.


Lol those people were all kicked out of UKIP because of their views. The news and other related stuff just love to hate on UKIP and make accusations and assumptions.
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The news makes assumptions? Yes, of course it does. -sarcasm-
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The news makes assumptions? Yes, of course it does. -sarcasm-


You're dumb if you so readily believe what the news tell you. Example at the recent Baltimore riots, all news agencies were only showing things like how dangerous the people of Baltimore are. While at the exact same time, normal people that lived there would take photo's and these images and posts would become the top posts on Reddit and/or Imgur that actually went against what all the news were trying to have you believe.
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eclair-lumiere wrote:



The news makes assumptions? Yes, of course it does. -sarcasm-


You're dumb if you so readily believe what the news tell you. Example at the recent Baltimore riots, all news agencies were only showing things like how dangerous the people of Baltimore are. While at the exact same time, normal people that lived there would take photo's and these images an posts would become the top posts on Reddit and/or Imgur that actually went against what all the news were trying to have you believe.


You're the real idiot if you believe social media over the news. Especially since a few posts ago you were criticising facebook.
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You're the real idiot if you believe social media over the news. Especially since a few posts ago you were criticising facebook.


Whatever, you're just part of the lower denominator that continues to believe everything on TV lmao.
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eclair-lumiere wrote:

You're the real idiot if you believe social media over the news. Especially since a few posts ago you were criticising facebook.


Whatever, you're just part of the lower denominator that continues to believe everything.

Says the guy who gets his information from social media.
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Oh no, cons win... no living large off the government for a few more years. How sad.
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Posted 5/8/15 , edited 5/8/15

eclair-lumiere wrote:

Says the guy who gets his information from social media.


First off you take the newspaper seriously, you was misinformed about UKIP because of that (and probably misinformed about a lot of others things), and now you think all forms of social media is bad information while readily accepting anything the news tells you (even though social media proves the news to be wrong and misinformed time and time again). You're just a sheep.
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Can't we just say you're all dumb for believing in any political group in the first place? If the UK is bad or turning bad. It's your duty as a European to get rid of people who screw up.
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I couldn't believe they got the majority. It's a dark day in British history.
Posted 5/8/15
I voted for Conservative so bleh
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