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How come we ( meaning the United States) only nuked Japan? Why did we not also nuke one German city and one Italian city? Would that not be more fair to do so?
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Both countries had surrendered before the first test of the bomb.

The United States tested its first nuclear device (the Trinity test) on July 16, 1945, more than two months after Germany surrendered to the Allies.

On September 8, 1943, the news became official – Italy, the oldest ally of Nazi Germany, had surrendered unconditionally to the Americans and British



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United States Didnt develop a successful Nuclear Bomb unitl early 1945. By the time we could use one germany was gasping for its last breath and was about to surrender, while italy was liberated, only reason why we nuked japan was because they were predicting over 200,000 casualties just for the inital start of the invasion for mainland japan. The Atomic bomb was strictly for last option only.
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Putting aside the obvious answer which has been provided (they'd already surrendered), why should engagements be planned based upon how "fair" they are to the opposition? This line of reasoning doesn't even make sense to me. Engagements should be planned based upon strategic effectiveness.
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We had the manpower to defeat the Japanese army, no problem.
However, we had a lot of trouble fighting Godzilla, bullets simply bounced off.
It was hoped that the Philadelphia experiment could destroy him.
As you know, of course, the Japanese ninjas stole this technology and traveled back in time with it, leading the ninja's famous "teleportation" abilities.
A large scale, coordinated allied effort eventually took down Godzilla. It took about three days straight of constant bombing and mortar fire.
But Godzilla was never the real threat. He was just being used to stall the allies long enough for Japan to complete their mecha.
We dropped exactly two bombs because two mecha were completed. With their phase-induction, alternating-warp-polarity armour plating, what other choice did we have?
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Like what was said above, Germany and Italy had already surrendered by the time a nuke was "perfected". If we created an A-Bomb earlier I would highly bet that the Allies would have nuked Berlin or other highly useful manufacturing cities. The Allies still Fire Bombed the Nazi occupied cities killing thousands of civilians so, its closest thing we had to nuking at the time. As for Italy, their army was literally a joke. The troops didn't put up a fight, their technology was ancient, and they were happy to surrender happy the first chance they got. For invading Italy in the first place was overkill. Nuking Italy would be like using a hand grenade to kill a spider.

If you want an example, look how happy these Italian POWs look.
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So... history isn't my strong suit and it's about 3am so maybe I'm just not thinking correctly, but wasn't Pearl Harbor one of the reasons the US decided to nuke Japan?
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yunacaycaythesecond wrote:

So... history isn't my strong suit and it's about 3am so maybe I'm just not thinking correctly, but wasn't Pearl Harbor one of the reasons the US decided to nuke Japan?


Well, a reference to the attack on Pearl Harbor certainly couldn't have hurt the argument to do so. Nevertheless, the main thing was to engage in a shock and awe campaign with a weapon of incredible destructive capabilities which would force the Empire of Japan into a rapid surrender. As the weapons were being developed Oppenheimer famously expressed both astonishment and horror at their destructive power.
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yunacaycaythesecond wrote:

So... history isn't my strong suit and it's about 3am so maybe I'm just not thinking correctly, but wasn't Pearl Harbor one of the reasons the US decided to nuke Japan?


Apparently not.
And no, Pearl Harbor was the reason we entered the war, four years earlier--Roosevelt was aware of what was going on in Europe, but the tide of the country was almost militantly isolationist (we supported England, as long as that meant they fought Germany themselves, without us), and getting the vote to enter the war would have been political suicide. All we needed was a reason, and once we got one, FDR rode the wave to Congress.
(And the attack had mostly been over disputed mineral rights in the Pacific, and who got to drill for needed oil and resources--Japan's "whining" over ownership had been a thorn in the US's side up to '40, until they decided to brush us back from the plate.)
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yunacaycaythesecond wrote:

So... history isn't my strong suit and it's about 3am so maybe I'm just not thinking correctly, but wasn't Pearl Harbor one of the reasons the US decided to nuke Japan?


Apparently not.
And no, Pearl Harbor was the reason we entered the war, four years earlier--Roosevelt was aware of what was going on in Europe, but the tide of the country was almost militantly isolationist (we supported England, as long as that meant they fought Germany themselves, without us), and getting the vote to enter the war would have been political suicide. All we needed was a reason, and once we got one, FDR rode the wave to Congress.
(And the attack had mostly been over disputed mineral rights in the Pacific, and who got to drill for needed oil and resources--Japan's "whining" over ownership had been a thorn in the US's side up to '40, until they decided to brush us back from the plate.)


Lol, sorry. Like I said, 3am in the morning it was something that popped into my mind that I remembered having something to do with the war. You are right about it being the reason we entered the war XD. I really should have known better since I just took a Japanese Literature class a few semesters back and we talked about the war but I get dates muddled honestly.
I'm just going to go hide in a corner in shame of my bad memory now...

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Call me crazy, but I think it would be overkill to nuke enemies that already surrendered.
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Italy had already been liberated by the Allies and Germany was soundly defeated by the time the U.S. had finished developing the bomb. Given the bloodbaths that were the battles of Iwo Jima and Okinawa, Japan still remained a considerable obstacle for the US and was thus a suitable target for the atom bombs.
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"I realize the tragic significance of the atom bomb," President Harry Truman said in a radio address before the Japanese government finally surrendered, "[but we] have used it in order to shorten the agony of war, in order to save the lives of thousands and thousands of young Americans.This is from a President Truman's radio address .
Posted 5/10/15 , edited 5/10/15
Well from my understanding, with the Germans in WW2, we can assume that they (America) might have done so if it was complete. Air raid was the hyped form of attack and a lot of big talking was behind it, e.g. that it would show no mercy and cut off supplies leaving the country afraid. It didn't exactly live up to expectation but the thought of destroying whole cities was there.

It would also be a bit weird to attack with nuclear weapons when coming to the aid of allies. I mean, really? That's just a burden.
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The answer have already been answered, but maybe they didn't want to risk getting nuclear waste into their allies...?

Also, Japan had the attitude of "it's victory or failure" and wouldn't have stopped fighting the US unless they did it
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