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I'd certainly consider myself a feminist (or, at the least, someone who shares many feminist views). There are definitely many areas in which women are not treated fairly. I don't really see how that can be argued against with any sense of believability. I don't. however get in with the extremists.. but that's pretty much the case with everything. It's always the extremists that make every belief system look bad.
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I am not against reasonable or comparable levels of social equality across the board, but I do know that there are some things in which the sexes will never be equal. I recognize, too, that there are glaring problems that need to be addressed before people fixate on minor, almost harmless, things. The zeal of the feminists is wasted when they do not have their priorities straight. They must realize that absolute equality is impossible to achieve. Beyond a certain point, the cure is often worse than the ailment.

Basically, there are some things to which people need to just say "s*** happens" and move on rather than waste their time mining for nonexistent problems or magnifying a small problem into one the size of a mountain. These "problems" might be tiny and/or simply unavoidable.

There are also real issues with real impacts that need to be addressed in societies around the world. These should be addressed right away and people should dedicate their time/energy on these issues first.

And there are issues that should be addressed later but not now because of their mild impact on equality.

And, of course, equality cuts both ways. It's not all sunshine and butterflies because there's a pro and con to everything. Double standards in our society can be beneficial for one sex but not the other. Eliminating some of these double standards is sometimes important but will expose one side to an undesirable effect. In order to gain, something must be lost.

I consider myself a humanitarian rather than a feminist.
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Posted 5/10/15
There's already a thread on feminism tho......

And considering the "Mommy Wars" of the 80s/90s, prooooobably not best to dedicate a topic to feminism specifically on Mothers Day.
Posted 5/10/15 , edited 5/10/15
As long as these gender wars exist we will never reach equality and most feminists of today don't really want equality, they want more and ignore the ones who don't support them. I'm tired of feminists saying they are for equality of women but when a woman says she is not a feminist they insult her and act like it is blasphemy. Contradictory. Things I've been told by feminists: " we gave u ur rights, you judas!!", "you deserve to be raped", "you're weak and only seek for the validation of men" etc. Things like those and more have made me dislike the movement.

Besides, I don't need labels to be independent and strong and support equality and my dear mother would say that she is egalitarian (just like myself) if she cared about lables. I don't really like lables though...especially when those labels don't do as they preach.(ie.feminism)

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the last thing i would discuss with my mother on mother's day is feminism

it'd be more like "what u want for dinner" or something
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Feminism is acceptable for some things, like where discrepancy in rights is quite vast and unfair. The only things i can think of at this moment is the wage gap or the right to be respected as a basic human being instead of a sexual object. However i am against the Feminazi's (Extreme Feminists) as they even attack people of their own gender for being an individual for doing things they would consider sexist, and putting femism back 40 years or whatever. Feminism is fine as long as you aren't an extremist. Feminazi's just give Feminism a bad name.
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You know I really dont want to have this discussion were a ton of people are gonna whine about feminism in light of recent events. A couple of days ago Grace Mann a feminist in the University of Mary Washington was murdered. The campus had a long history of Racial and Sexual cruelty and she was part of a group that tried to speak out and she was likely killed for her beliefs.

I want you to look me straight in the eye and say we dont need feminism. Go on. Try to feed me that bullshit. Call me a Feminazi, SJW, Cuck, claim that I am just looking to get laid or I am some self hating male. I dont care cause im not that, im a decent fucking human being who realizes there is a problem in the world and you should be too.
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megahobbit wrote:

You know I really dont want to have this discussion were a ton of people are gonna whine about feminism in light of recent events. A couple of days ago Grace Mann a feminist in the University of Mary Washington was murdered. The campus had a long history of Racial and Sexual cruelty and she was part of a group that tried to speak out and she was likely killed for her beliefs.

I want you to look me straight in the eye and say we dont need feminism. Go on. Try to feed me that bullshit. Call me a Feminazi, SJW, Cuck, claim that I am just looking to get laid or I am some self hating male. I dont care cause im not that, im a decent fucking human being who realizes there is a problem in the world and you should be too.


We.

Don't.

Need.

Feminism.

Satisfied?

Frankly, I find it much more appalling that an ideology could be compatible with the tactic of invoking a recently murded individual to deflect inquiry as to the validity of said ideology. It reveals just how fringe such ideology is. As well as those willing to espouse it.
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maxgale wrote:



Frankly, I find it much more appalling that an ideology could be compatible with the tactic of invoking a recently murded individual to deflect inquiry as to the validity of said ideology. It reveals just how fringe such ideology is. As well as those willing to espouse it.


Would you have felt the same way about civil rights activists after the deaths of Emmit Till, Medgar Evers and James Byrd Jr.?
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maxgale wrote:
We.

Don't.

Need.

Feminism.

Satisfied?

Frankly, I find it much more appalling that an ideology could be compatible with the tactic of invoking a recently murded individual to deflect inquiry as to the validity of said ideology. It reveals just how fringe such ideology is. As well as those willing to espouse it.


THATs

NOT

WHAT

IM

FUCKING

SAYING

. Im asking you to fucking recognize that there is a goddamn problem with sexism and that feminists are the only people trying to stop it. Im fucking sick of all these threads demonizing feminists when they fight legitimately terrible acts in society risking there own lives to do so. I not saying you shouldnt criticize the fucking points of feminism you disagree with or debate with them over whether a certain piece of media is sexist or not. Cause at the end of the day media is small potatoes in comparison to stuff like this.

What im saying is that feminism is necessary in that it was the only group willing and able to talk out and discuss the sexist culture that exists. A culture that caused the death of this woman, a culture that lets rapists get away with there crimes, a culture that allows sexist practices to still be in place.

Im not saying you should agree with the parts of feminism that talk about media which I assume is where you have your disagreements. Im asking you anti-feminists acknowledge that theres a goddamn problem in culture with sexism. Im asking you realize that sexism does exist and causes these horrific acts to happen. I get disagreeing that X game is sexist or X movie is sexist. What I dont get is the fucking need of you people to try and tear down feminism when it faces real issues.

TL;DR Im okay if you disagree that X thing is not sexist but you dont need to be so fucking angry and right of all feminism when it faces real issues in culture and respect the fact people are risking there lives to fight sexism.
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To sum up my point Feminism is necessary and im fucking sick and disgusted of people getting so butthurt and feeling the need to think all feminism wants to DESTROY ALL VIDEO GAMES! and this means that the entire movement is invalid and pointless when its facing undeniably real issues and people are risking there lives.
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Posted 5/10/15 , edited 5/11/15

megahobbit wrote:

You know I really dont want to have this discussion were a ton of people are gonna whine about feminism in light of recent events. A couple of days ago Grace Mann a feminist in the University of Mary Washington was murdered. The campus had a long history of Racial and Sexual cruelty and she was part of a group that tried to speak out and she was likely killed for her beliefs.

I want you to look me straight in the eye and say we dont need feminism. Go on. Try to feed me that bullshit. Call me a Feminazi, SJW, Cuck, claim that I am just looking to get laid or I am some self hating male. I dont care cause im not that, im a decent fucking human being who realizes there is a problem in the world and you should be too.


Oh and a third thing before you fucking smartass try to pull the "MUH EXPLOITING TRAGEDY HOW DISGUSTING" what im saying here is that in light of recent events involving the murder im sick of people shit talking feminism when they fight actual problems that actually fucking exist.
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Posted 5/10/15 , edited 5/11/15

megahobbit wrote:


maxgale wrote:
We.

Don't.

Need.

Feminism.

Satisfied?

Frankly, I find it much more appalling that an ideology could be compatible with the tactic of invoking a recently murded individual to deflect inquiry as to the validity of said ideology. It reveals just how fringe such ideology is. As well as those willing to espouse it.


THATs

NOT

WHAT

IM

FUCKING

SAYING

. Im asking you to fucking recognize that there is a goddamn problem with sexism and that feminists are the only people trying to stop it. Im fucking sick of all these threads demonizing feminists when they fight legitimately terrible acts in society risking there own lives to do so. I not saying you shouldnt criticize the fucking points of feminism you disagree with or debate with them over whether a certain piece of media is sexist or not. Cause at the end of the day media is small potatoes in comparison to stuff like this.

What im saying is that feminism is necessary in that it was the only group willing and able to talk out and discuss the sexist culture that exists. A culture that caused the death of this woman, a culture that lets rapists get away with there crimes, a culture that allows sexist practices to still be in place.

Im not saying you should agree with the parts of feminism that talk about media which I assume is where you have your disagreements. Im asking you anti-feminists acknowledge that theres a goddamn problem in culture with sexism. Im asking you realize that sexism does exist and causes these horrific acts to happen. I get disagreeing that X game is sexist or X movie is sexist. What I dont get is the fucking need of you people to try and tear down feminism when it faces real issues.

TL;DR Im okay if you disagree that X thing is not sexist but you dont need to be so fucking angry and right of all feminism when it faces real issues in culture and respect the fact people are risking there lives to fight sexism.


Woah, I'm like checking this thread out and there's already offensive language from the feminist, how does this help out feminism. By lashing out and throwing a fit. This is exactly what turns me off from feminism.
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Posted 5/10/15 , edited 5/10/15

geauxtigers1989 wrote:


maxgale wrote:



Frankly, I find it much more appalling that an ideology could be compatible with the tactic of invoking a recently murded individual to deflect inquiry as to the validity of said ideology. It reveals just how fringe such ideology is. As well as those willing to espouse it.


Would you have felt the same way about civil rights activists after the deaths of Emmit Till, Medgar Evers and James Byrd Jr.?


As I said, if it is to deflect valid inquiry, it does call into question the validity of a movement if it is unable to present a logical argument and must instead rely upon emotional manipulation.

And here we have an example of what I am saying:



megahobbit wrote:


maxgale wrote:
We.

Don't.

Need.

Feminism.

Satisfied?

Frankly, I find it much more appalling that an ideology could be compatible with the tactic of invoking a recently murded individual to deflect inquiry as to the validity of said ideology. It reveals just how fringe such ideology is. As well as those willing to espouse it.


THATs

NOT

WHAT

IM

FUCKING

SAYING

. Im asking you to fucking recognize that there is a goddamn problem with sexism and that feminists are the only people trying to stop it. Im fucking sick of all these threads demonizing feminists when they fight legitimately terrible acts in society risking there own lives to do so. I not saying you shouldnt criticize the fucking points of feminism you disagree with or debate with them over whether a certain piece of media is sexist or not. Cause at the end of the day media is small potatoes in comparison to stuff like this.

What im saying is that feminism is necessary in that it was the only group willing and able to talk out and discuss the sexist culture that exists. A culture that caused the death of this woman, a culture that lets rapists get away with there crimes, a culture that allows sexist practices to still be in place.

Im not saying you should agree with the parts of feminism that talk about media which I assume is where you have your disagreements. Im asking you anti-feminists acknowledge that theres a goddamn problem in culture with sexism. Im asking you realize that sexism does exist and causes these horrific acts to happen. I get disagreeing that X game is sexist or X movie is sexist. What I dont get is the fucking need of you people to try and tear down feminism when it faces real issues.

TL;DR Im okay if you disagree that X thing is not sexist but you dont need to be so fucking angry and right of all feminism when it faces real issues in culture and respect the fact people are risking there lives to fight sexism.


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Posted 5/10/15 , edited 5/11/15

pandrasb wrote:
Woah, I'm like checking this thread out and there's already offensive language from the feminist, how does this help out feminism. By lashing out and throwing a fit. This is exactly what turns me off from feminism.


Yeah I can see that. Personally this isnt something I would normally do. Im just sick of the amount of bullshit that happens on this forum regarding the hatred of feminism and am not in the mood for another thread that just devolves into "the feminists said something bad about something I like so all of it is wrong."
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