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Marijuana Legalize it.
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Posted 5/12/15 , edited 5/12/15
Why is everyone attacking pot? It helps slow down cancer and have great medical effects on many diseases. If you do not have any proven evidence, do not attack a subject you know nothing about. Get some facts first. Btw some children need pot in their system to function properly due to diseases.

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I don't care for any kind of smoke. So keep it illegal, less smoke for me to see, smell, or taste.
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Another angle to look at from one that doesn't smoke it, there are plenty of people that smoke it now, regardless of its legality. I can't say I care too much whether you want to smoke it or not, so lets look at the net effects, and what we can do with it.

Starting first with my opinion on this. Legalize, tax, and regulate. Instead of growing marijuana as a crime, treat only unregulated growing as a crime. Looking at an investment risk/return, many may jump at the idea of regulation. While they may lose income in taxes, the risk factor becomes nil. What does this lead to? Extra tax dollars, purer, safer(not mixed with other garbage) marijuana, and less individuals going to jail, reducing the huge cost of housing 'criminals.'

To further the jail standpoint, while one view of jail is rehabilitate, my view is that it ultimately turns minor 'criminals' in more serious ones. With the fact that many who go to jail, go more than once, this could easily be argued to be the case.

Look at all these billions of dollars in savings and tax dollars. Now here's the good part. Fuel this money into education, health care, and although marijuana might be legal in this scenario, addiction can still be an issue, so lets start by putting some more money into addiction services.

Economic gain, social gain, intellectual gain. My personal viewpoint is that if people are going to smoke marijuana regardless, why not use it to help society. Whether you are for or against marijuana, that doesn't matter, there are definitely things to gain my legalizing it if it is done the right way. Keep in mind this completely ignores the medical benefits, as I don't think we even need to get into it to prove that there is much to gain by legalizing.
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Tell me this, why is a plant illegal, whilst at the same time pharmaceutical companies can synthesize the active, health-beneficial ingredient of this plant and sell it for major money? Because you can't regulate a plant that anyone can grow in their closet.

Don't get me wrong, i enjoy the other benefits of smoking it aswell, it's mind-expanding and heightens the sensitivity of your senses to a degree. Those who want to say it's dangerous and bad for you tend to focus on the "smoking bit" completely denying and ignoring that it's edible, and you can also vaporize it, removing most if not all negative effects nay-sayers might bring up.

As for those who "have a friend who had a psychosis" because of weed. Maybe a weak mind has no business expanding past it's capability, ever thought of that?

Everyone is different, and it is far too often that those who can't enjoy something want to deny it for anyone else out of spite.


Also for the maker of the thread, i believe you missed the classic "Marijuana makes white women want to sleep with coloured men" as one of the reasons/campaigns to criminalize it. That and hemp being an inexpensive alternative to make paper which would hit the timber industry hard if it was legal.


They regulate the growth, sale, and wild harvesting of a number of plants in the US quite successfully. It isn't because you can't regulate it, it is because there are a number of large vested interests making money off the business of prohibition. The marijuana companies in Colorado are working on building a lobby that will hopefully help that industry begin to compete for political clout. Prohibition may create business, but it also stifles more. It costs more money than it generates. The marijuana industry will, if properly managed, create more economic opportunity than prohibition.

There is no data to support that Marijuana enhances most cognitive processes. It has been shown to enhance the ability to implement coping mechanisms in response to a variety of trauma and stress however, so there is that. Marijuana has been shown to impair the transition of memory from mid memory to long term. It has also been shown to impair reflexes and sometimes judgement. Most of these are pretty temporary. Even after heavy use almost all negative consequences of partaking fade after only thirty days.

I have tried marijuana in the past. It has zero affect on me. This is also true for a plethora of other things though. I am largely unaffected by most pain killers, every anesthetic used on me so far has worn off more than twice as fast as it should according to literature, I sober from alcohol faster than normal, tear gas does not affect me, and there are more but you get the point. I don't have any spite, feel free to use it all you like. I just don't want you under the influence at most jobs since it can impact judgement and reflexes. I don't want you operating a motor vehicle under the influence. I don't want you to use it anywhere and everywhere so that those who wish to avoid it may do so. In your home, your personal car, or designated areas use away!

This last point has played into a number of things we have made illegal. Many things that were moved against in this fashion were really about insuring that the minority groups attaining economic parity or affluence through these substances and practices (many drugs, gambling, red light district stuff, etc.) were "put back in their place". Check out how many Klan members were involved in some of those movements some time...

Both sides often engage in the dissemination of false information. There is data about negative health consequences, but most of them are temporary. Regulation and taxation of a legalized industry sounds good. Allow a couple plants for personal use if someone wants to grow their own.
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I don't think anyone here is openly advocating reliance upon drugs to enjoy life. That would be a harmful habit or addiction. Joy in life does not come from only drugs, although drugs can indeed be fun. Taking a drug to temporarily change the way the mind works can be a very rewarding and pleasant experience. As they say, variety is the spice of life. Some people get bored and/or simply enjoy certain substances, that's all. The mere fact that they might drink or smoke doesn't necessarily mean they need to drink or smoke in order to have fun, which seems to be what you are suggesting. There is not just one type of fun. There are many types of fun and some people elect to experience more types than others. Responsible use of substances means that the usage does not interfere with the important daily routines, such as sleeping, going to work, studying, etc.

If you don't like it and don't want to use it, that is totally fine and nobody is forcing you to. But just because you don't like something and don't think the choice is important to you does not mean that one person's will ought to be binding on those around him. Sort of like how one person's opinion that MTV is a crappy channel doesn't mean it should be removed from broadcast and others are obligated to think the same way and not watch it. Or that one person's scathing opinion that weird sex toys are satanic and gross should not mean that manufacture should be halted.

I'm quite open about drugs (I've tried pretty much everything, even the hard stuff) and even I find it annoying when people go "420 BLAZE IT FGT WEED IS GOOD FOR YOU" and smoke all the time and get lazy and cause the house to stink. So I totally understand what you mean by it being annoying. But, to be clear, this is not responsible or considerate use of marijuana. The problem is that the guy smoking it every day is a prick, not that marijuana is innately bad.

Responsible drug use means studying the effects and doing your homework. It means carefully monitoring your dosage and knowing your limits. It means not doing it all the time and only doing it when it is proper. It means not trying to be all cool and macho about it since there's a real risk that something could happen if you take a quadruple dose. It means having a plan in case of an emergency. It means knowing when to refrain from taking something because you thought about the risks and how they are not worth it. Not driving around while stoned or drunk, etc. It is unfortunate that so many people don't seem to have common sense and do drugs in a manner that endangers people around them as well as themselves.

It is impractical to ban and outlaw things simply because a part of the population dislikes it. It is also improper and impractical to ban something simply because it is potentially harmful. The reasoning is simply ineffective. "We don't like it" and "it's potentially harmful" are way too broad. If you think about it, everything is hated by people and everything has the potential to be harmful.

A careful and objective analysis must be done. We are not dealing with philosophy. We are dealing with real-world substances that have measurable effects. Prohibition is actually very expensive. Costs must be taken into consideration and ways to mitigate harms should be used. Chief among the ways to mitigate harm is education. Rather than spoon-feeding kids the canned statement that "drugs are bad" without telling them any real reasons, each substance should be studied objectively and the effects should be listed. Tylenol is a drug. Asprin is a drug. Cocaine is a drug. Ecstasy is a drug. Why should the way we study them change simply because our actions become colored by our emotions? Accurate, objective, and reliable information is key. Sort of like how when you go buy a bottle of medicine, the label tells you exactly what to expect and exactly how much you should take and what you should do in the event of an accidental overdose. If a substance has been proven to be so harmful that the risks far outweigh the benefits, THEN a ban should be considered. A comprehensive and reliable database of reviewed information that has withstood scientific scrutiny ought to be made available to the public.
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Posted 5/12/15 , edited 5/12/15
I personally don't like the high feeling it gives (Sativa, Indica or hybrid), but make it legal, it does indeed helps some people. My brother over hypes it, though, I find it a bit overrated, to tell you the truth.
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