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Posted 5/16/15
I just get angry sometimes, because I feel like I am in a prison. I never get to go out that much because my mom is never willing to take me. If I do go some where she always goes with me, and if I tell her that I want to go by myself, or with friends to say the mall, she will call and text me a lot asking if I am alright. I know I probably shouldn't complain, because she has done good things for me, and she is trying to protect me, but sometimes it feels very suffocating.
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Their castle, their rules, kid.


Go on and preach now.
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I love how everybody's using the same, shitty argument. "But.. But.. Your parents feed you, and give you shelter so you have to obey every single thing they say until you're 18.".
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saksiss wrote:

Don't worry. When you turn 18, you can tell your parents to fuck off.


Yes, you can. Though I wouldn't suggest it.

If you're over 18, living in their home rent-free and neglecting your responsibilities; they have every right to demand things of you.
It's called contributing to the household. If you're not contributing, get your own place.
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I love how everybody's using the same, shitty argument. "But.. But.. Your parents feed you, and give you shelter so you have to obey every single thing they say until you're 18.".


Well it's not like anyone here will put in the effort to emancipate themselves.

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If your living on your own you can do what you want. Until then expect not to have
as much control as you would like. If your really 17 you only have a year left. Then
you can leave the house pay your own way and do what you want. My parents
stopped forcing me to do things I didn't want around 14 but not all parents are the
same(also not all kids are the same either some can be trusted more then others)


lol why would she lie about being 17?
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I'm not sure what the law is for this situation of being forced to go to events...

But when I took business law, I wish I knew back then, what I learned in that class. If you're under 18, you can get away with murder (just using the figure of speech...not actual murder). Like if you purchase a car (even using a fake ID) and can't/don't pay your payments on the car, you can turn that car back to the dealer without owing a single penny as long as you're still under 18. If I remember correctly, it's for all major purchases that this is for. There's other things like this, but still...this class was crap. (Crap because I lost faith in humanity with all of the case studies I had to do where people are just the worst.)
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I'm not sure what the law is for this situation of being forced to go to events...

But when I took business law, I wish I knew back then, what I learned in that class. If you're under 18, you can get away with murder (just using the figure of speech...not actual murder). Like if you purchase a car (even using a fake ID) and can't/don't pay your payments on the car, you can turn that car back to the dealer without owing a single penny as long as you're still under 18. If I remember correctly, it's for all major purchases that this is for. There's other things like this, but still...this class was crap. (Crap because I lost faith in humanity with all of the case studies I had to do where people are just the worst.)



That's interesting. I always thought that when your under the age of 18 and you purchase a car you need a co-signer. If that person fails to make payments on that vehicle the co-signer would be liable for those payments. I believe that's not just for buying cars, thats for purchases that require a loan, you always need a co-signer when under the age of 18.


If one used a fake ID to purchase a car that persons an idiot. That would be a felony. I'm no lawyer, but that's just not a good idea.
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Courts don't consider minors mentally competent to enter contracts, so it is true that a minor could decide to return a car and walk away. They may be required to pay restitution for damages or depreciation to the car's value and would wind up in legal trouble should they fail to pay that. The same is true if they accept money to do a job (i.e. paint somebody's fence) and then decide not to do it - they either have to return the money or get in trouble with the law.

Anyway, yes. While there isn't a legal requirement for a co-signer on car loans, etc. that I'm aware of, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone dumb enough not to insist on one when contracting with a minor.


As a minor you enjoy a good deal of legal protections adults don't, but you also have limited freedom as your parent or guardian is considered responsible for you. So yes, they can force you to go to a social function you don't wish to. Them's the breaks. Once you are legally an adult you can start making all of your own decisions and enjoying their consequences in full.
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You have the right to seek emancipation if you don't like it. Granted someone else said it in the thread most "minors" would never put in the effort to get emancipated. Also, in the theoretical marriage story the parents probably didn't want to go to that wedding either, but it is polite to show up to family affairs. Everyone wants to sit at home and chill or go hang out with friends and get piss drunk. Welcome to life kiddo's sometimes you gotta do shit you don't like or want to.
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Thanks for all the replies. Glad they're mostly positive...


VZ68 wrote:

Show them who is boss and get drunk out of your mind and pee on the cake.



I would totally do that if my brain wasn't my best friend who has a lot of control over me. I just don't feel like drinking alcohol, and it tastes bad, too...


dotsforlife wrote:

Unless you can support yourself 100% of the way on everything, I'm just going to laugh at this. Kids these days...smh.


Does it feel great to judge people based on their age, even if you don't know anything about them?
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I love how everybody's using the same, shitty argument. "But.. But.. Your parents feed you, and give you shelter so you have to obey every single thing they say until you're 18.".


Yeah, funny how there...don't seem to be any others.
Posted 5/17/15 , edited 8/30/15
Sometimes, they really need to. Some parents actually need to get their kids out of the house. Especially if they don't go out all the time or rarely. (Kinda like I do)

It's a part of helping & teaching the kid some good social skills. My mother had to do the same thing for me. I wasn't anti-social, I just had really bad social skills & social anxiety.

Some parents may be pushing it by making their kids join classes for stuff they have no interest in. With that stuff, I don't really agree with.

Also that's how kids learn how to make decisions. Their parents should teach them about what's right or wrong, the best choice for you, self-care, etc. stuff like that.
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It seems like we're more discussing matters of honor and diplomacy than civil rights. I don't believe parents are legally allowed to use enough physical force to truly control a child. So, it just amounts to how the parent-child relationship is handled in terms of being diplomatic and kind toward each other. Worst case scenario, the relationship is dissolved and a new guardian takes over responsibilities for the child.
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PruBenAzul wrote:

I'm not sure what the law is for this situation of being forced to go to events...

But when I took business law, I wish I knew back then, what I learned in that class. If you're under 18, you can get away with murder (just using the figure of speech...not actual murder). Like if you purchase a car (even using a fake ID) and can't/don't pay your payments on the car, you can turn that car back to the dealer without owing a single penny as long as you're still under 18. If I remember correctly, it's for all major purchases that this is for. There's other things like this, but still...this class was crap. (Crap because I lost faith in humanity with all of the case studies I had to do where people are just the worst.)



That's interesting. I always thought that when your under the age of 18 and you purchase a car you need a co-signer. If that person fails to make payments on that vehicle the co-signer would be liable for those payments. I believe that's not just for buying cars, thats for purchases that require a loan, you always need a co-signer when under the age of 18.


If one used a fake ID to purchase a car that persons an idiot. That would be a felony. I'm no lawyer, but that's just not a good idea.


LOL I wouldn't actually do it. But yeah, that's why they require a co-signer. And it's basically why you should never want to co-sign something because if that person doesn't pay, you have to.

Yeah, I didn't really like that class because of all of the case studies we did of how people got around and exposed gaps in the law. Or when they got ridiculous payouts for something. My grandparents live a block away from that McDonnalds where the lady spilled coffee on herself and won $4million. It's really annoying and I could never be a judge or a lawyer...I'd literally throw the book at people.
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