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I don't plan on ever going anywhere near the USA so i doubt my outlook will affect me that much. And the British Top Gear is not worth watching at all. Normally I like to defend my country but that show is a terrible mistake we gave the world, and Jeremy Clarkson is a talentless overpaid twat that thinks he can get away with anything, including hitting a colleague at work.


Ok. I'll give you the fact that his personality sucks. Maybe he was born with too much charisma for tv shows and not enough of what's actually more important. That seems to be the case with many high-paid personalities unfortunately.

Still, I think you over-generalize people living in the U.S. We're not all Jeremy Clarksons, nor politicians. Some of your assumptions are incorrect, but I won't try to persuade you to like the U.S. I will, however, try to convince you that on an individual basis people are the same here as they are where you live. We have the good and the bad, same as you. And in addition to stupidity being cumulative (the masses are so dumb!), the bad rises to the top (so are the politically correct, who do so at the expense of common sense). Someone once said, absolute power corrupts absolutely. And it's true.
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Not you. I was on about the other people who joined in when they weren't even involved, and didn't even have the guts to reply to me directly.

Btw, that cat is adorable.
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To be honest, I don't think he has any kind of charisma at all and is just an obnoxious man. He offends people where ever he goes and has caused controversy over and over again. I don't see why the programme is popular either, but then I have no interest in cars so something like that wouldn't appeal to me.

I know there are probably some good people from the USA, but you never really see that. If the only side of the US you ever see is the bad side then that's what you're going to associate it with. Not to mention some of the things America does like teaching children how to use guns is sickening, so that starts to make a person biased.
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Nice to see you all ganging up on the one brit who dared to voice their true opinion. Just like the real life world, you amerians think you own the internet as well. Thanks for making my beliefs that much stronger.


If any individual posts hate toward any other group on the internet (such as you've done; or at least voiced your dislike), you think it would change depending on your geographical location? Of course not. Everywhere on the internet is a prime example of hate and trolls.

Also, I wouldn't recommend riling up a group of people with words of disgust towards them (being the instigator) and then making it seem like they're the only ones in the wrong. If any single one of them were to start something on British soil, you could bet they'd be ganged up on and with "good" reason. I have a friend very much like you. They only perceive the wrongs done to them, not the wrongs they do to others. You would be one of those people to start a war and then complain when people start fighting back, I think.

And if "Americans" judged all Europeans or British by interacting with you alone (as you might've done in the past with online interactions), they'd have a similar viewpoint as you do. And propagating that is just wrong. I'm not always proud to be an American, but I can't objectively look at the world and not see any number of rights and wrongs committed and be so biased toward one nation over another (ok, so there's North Korea. But that's due to leadership I hope).
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To be honest, I don't think he has any kind of charisma at all and is just an obnoxious man. He offends people where ever he goes and has caused controversy over and over again. I don't see why the programme is popular either, but then I have no interest in cars so something like that wouldn't appeal to me.

I know there are probably some good people from the USA, but you never really see that. If the only side of the US you ever see is the bad side then that's what you're going to associate it with. Not to mention some of the things America does like teaching children how to use guns is sickening, so that starts to make a person biased.


Well, I apologize for those who are too inconsiderate to apologize for themselves. One of the "best" things we have going for us is our media. And by that, I mean it's worse that Jeremy Clarkson. But bad news is sensational, and good news is boring. So even if we did anything good, you're more likely to see the bad. Edit: I'm super fortunate in that I don't associate a famous person's personal life with their movies, tv shows, etc. I don't care to know them, and it doesn't ruin the movie/show. Mostly. I still like cars... *cries* you ruined that show now that I looked him up =[

I would just recommend holding off on any final judgement until you've met some people. I always try to assume the best about an individual until proven otherwise. But governments... well, I got nothing. I'm not too impressed by them either.
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There's a difference between starting a fight online and starting one in real life. Of course I would never voice these opinions in real life to an american. I wouldn't dare. I know how tetchy they can be and don't plan on dying yet.

But online all they can really do is insult Britain or me, and to be honest I find it rather amusing. My feelings won't change so I really don't care. If you dislike someone, their opinion won't matter.

I don't judge the USA based on just a handful of people online. I have a huge number of reasons to dislike them, far too many to mention. News reports, real life experiences and online experiences have built up over many years.
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Ah. Well I'm sorry about that. As you were.
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Bad news depresses me and I would find good news most welcome, no matter where it comes from. I know most people think it's boring or not important...but seriously, there's so much bad stuff going on can't we have the occasional mundane story that makes us smile?

Top Gear is probably enjoyable for people that like cars. I don't think I know of any other programme that's similar. Well, they did try and do some sort of copy of Top Gear recently with Philip Glenister...think it was called "For the Love of Cars" or something. But my opinion is that if you do something like punch a colleague, you should be fired whether you're famous or not. After all, it wouldn't be acceptable in any other work place.

I have met quite a few americans in real life. One of them was a girl who pretended to be my friend but was sleeping with my boyfriend the whole time and stole him off me. I've met many others who come to England but then seem to just complain about everything. And they always seem to treat waiters like shit. Don't know why, they just do. At least the ones I've met.
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Time to head to the ol Walmart and watch a white trash riot break out over half priced fried chicken.

BBL.

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This isn't an aid group helping somewhere that has been struck by an earthquake or tsunami though. And i highly doubt they are there for the second reason. Perhaps they are allowed there legally, but then a lot of stuff is legal now that shouldn't really be allowed to happen.

I am aware it is the politicians in England that allow it to happen. But what british politician is going to dare to stand up to the united States? We are basically America's punching bag now.


Actually the second reason is probably exactly why they're there, or at the very least it's the main reason your country allows the base to be there. I mean we (America) do have the single largest military in the world by a very significant margin, so it only stands to reason that allied countries would try to integrate us into their defenses.

There's basically no chance that America will invade an allied country and with an American military base inside your country there's pretty much no chance anyone else will invade you either. Win win.
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Not you. I was on about the other people who joined in when they weren't even involved, and didn't even have the guts to reply to me directly.

Btw, that cat is adorable.



Thank you for the kind words. I do try and be respectful to all. Yes, 'apology kitten' is adorable, but unfortunately he(??) is not mine. My last cat was a domestic short hair (DSH) overall black with a white blaze and white paws named (un)imaginatively Boots. He was a good cat, but passed away a couple of years ago. I miss him to this day.
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I have met quite a few americans in real life. One of them was a girl who pretended to be my friend but was sleeping with my boyfriend the whole time and stole him off me. I've met many others who come to England but then seem to just complain about everything. And they always seem to treat waiters like shit. Don't know why, they just do. At least the ones I've met.


And how many is that, 10-15 maybe 30? That's not even one percent of the population. I've met British people who come to America and are either shocked that we aren't all fat or complain that things are too far apart. When I was in Britain I went out to a pub and watched a patron punch the bartender for hitting on us girlfriend. I watched a business man take a piss on a building while I was walking down the street. Does this mean all British people are stupid, aggressive, assholes? No, just those people were, most the people I met in Britain were great and super helpful.

Don't let your handful of personal experiences with a couple dumb Americans affect your overall view. Also taking your views of our country from a news report isn't going to help either. Nine times out of ten the media is used more as a tool to get America fired up over something, though other countries do this as well. All in all most Americans are good people, most British People are good people. There will always be some assholes but it's best to just ignore them.
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Remove the US military presence from the Sea of Japan, and you will see how fast it is taken over by Russia, China, and other world powers.
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I agree that America wouldn't invade us. But you never know, some countries like Russia might want to invade at some point. And I don't have any faith in the USA helping us if it comes to that.
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The apology is kitten is one of the most adorable cats I've seen but I do adore all cats in general, no matter what breed. I'm sure your cat was equally as adorable and I'm sorry he passed away.
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