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Posted 5/19/15 , edited 5/19/15
Ichibanx3: This thread is now the Miscellaneous Thread, where you can talk about any random topic or ask any random questions, as long as it's PG-13. The whole point of this thread is to give you guys a place to post about whatever you want.

IMPORTANT MESSAGE TO EVERYONE: Please DO NOT create new threads. If you view it as a necessity to create a new thread or a new poll or what not, please speak to me first. It's just that I don't want the forum to be littered with dead threads.

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How the hell are you supposed to read kanji on the computer?
The big ones like 女 for example are ok to read but with kanji like 書 I am like:

How do you people do this?
And I don't want to zoom in my browser for every kanji.
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I'm not sure there is a good way, other than zooming, at least for the more difficult kanji. After a while, though, it's pretty easy to tell most of them by their "pattern" even without zooming.
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Just like deadpanditto said. As you learn kanji and become more familiar with it you will be able to read it without zooming in. I had that some problem when I first started and as you learn more kanji you just get a "eye" for making them out. Do not worry about it. Just keep learning the kanji and you should be fine.
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I agree, sometimes I even have to zoom in but as you get more familiar with Kanji, you will find yourself recognizing even the tiniest of characters!

PS- i turned this thread into a Miscellaneous thread so everyone is free to talk about whatever they want here-you can even add random GIFs or what not, even talk about stuff not relating to Japanese. Just keep it civil and PG-13 rated, please. Think of this as like an extension of the Chat thread! I hope this thread will be fun and popular!
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To toast off the new new name here this is my first question to all of you. When you listen to anime do you find it hard to actually understand the Japanese? I watch Japanese Youtubers and I can pick apart their Japanese ok, but when I watch anime I just watch and find it hard to listen to the Japanese.
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Well, the best thing to do is turn of subtitles. It forces you to listen more. I'm too lazy to do that just yet.
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Yup, as much as it pains me to say it, combining entertainment with education on anime level is impossible for me D:

I watch it mainly because I want to get into the story and it becomes hard to do once there are no subs. I wish they there was an option here on CR to watch anime with Japanese subs, so that I could at the very least pause for a while and decipher what-the-heck-are-they-blabbing-about, instead of listening to the same line 100 times or missing something very crucial to the story.

That's why I sometimes prefer manga over anime You can go at your own pace while reading.
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Posted 5/20/15

MidorikaSatsu wrote:

Yup, as much as it pains me to say it, combining entertainment with education on anime level is impossible for me D:

I watch it mainly because I want to get into the story and it becomes hard to do once there are no subs. I wish they there was an option here on CR to watch anime with Japanese subs, so that I could at the very least pause for a while and decipher what-the-heck-are-they-blabbing-about, instead of listening to the same line 100 times or missing something very crucial to the story.

That's why I sometimes prefer manga over anime You can go at your own pace while reading.



Ya it is really hard for me lol. The best I have ever done was being able to listen to like the first 2 minutes of Bakemonogatari and I actually understood what they said. Though that is a horrible series to try and listen to because they talk way to fast. lol
By the way, where do you get manga that is in Japanese? Of course I want it legally by the way. I realized that I am using by the way too much, by the way.

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Posted 5/20/15 , edited 5/20/15
Ditto on what Ditto said way back-- just zoom in if you want to make out each stroke. Eventually, though, you'll recognize them by their general shape and context, even if each individual detail of a character isn't resolvable.

As for anime, I definitely cannot process spoken Japanese fast enough to effectively listen/watch anime without subtitles. By the time I've thought through a sentence (assuming I even picked up every word, which is hardly a given) and decided "yup, that's what I think it means," three or four more sentences have been spoken already, something else is already happening, and I'm irrecoverably behind. As Satsu said, though, with manga or anything written down, one can just sit there and parse it through at one's own pace. For me, anime is probably 95%+ entertainment, and maybe 5% educational, if that.

For Japanese manga (there are threads on the main CR site about this too), I order from Kinokuniya book store, or Amazon Japan.
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sushipath wrote:

Ditto on what Ditto said way back-- just zoom in if you want to make out each stroke. Eventually, though, you'll recognize them by their general shape and context, even if each individual detail of a character isn't resolvable.

As for anime, I definitely cannot process spoken Japanese fast enough to effectively listen/watch anime without subtitles. By the time I've thought through a sentence (assuming I even picked up every word, which is hardly a given) and decided "yup, that's what I think it means," three or four more sentences have been spoken already, something else is already happening, and I'm irrecoverably behind. As Satsu said, though, with manga or anything written down, one can just sit there and parse it through at one's own pace. For me, anime is probably 95%+ entertainment, and maybe 5% educational, if that.


I tied to force my self to listen to Aldonah Zero and I had the same problem. If I did understand it then I was already way behind. Though I do notice that I am able to pick out more words and some times even a sentence.
Also actions anime are the worst since I am trying to listen and then a mech explodes and all semblance of focusing is gone. lol
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I totally agree with all you guys! The last word I learned from anime was 貴様 (きさま). I frequently watch anime with Spanish subs to keep up my Spanish so it's hard enough trying to keep up with the spoken Japanese too. For me, anime is mostly for the entertainment or plot value! But it never hurts unexpectedly learning the most random words from anime

As for manga in Japanese, I got nearly my whole collection from Book Off! They're the best since you can get many used manga books for $, $5, or even $1 a piece! The local Kinokuniya is too expensive for my taste, but I guess it can be convenient if you're looking for Japanese books outside of Japan.

Also, I know what you mean about Aldnoah Zero, it seems like whenever there was a fight scene there would be loud noises then they would break into epic music! In my opinion, the love triangle and the music was the best part of that show!
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Posted 5/21/15
What is your favorite part of Japanese? The kanji, how it sounds, the grammar? I love how Japanese sounds! It is simply beautiful.
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Trinitywarrior wrote:

What is your favorite part of Japanese? The kanji, how it sounds, the grammar? I love how Japanese sounds! It is simply beautiful.


I think the grammer. For as how it sounds it's finds, but some Japanese girls just have this exaggerating voice. A little like British. And it annoys me as heck. Also the people on tv making words longer "heeeeee" "huuuuu" "hoooo". It just sounds so fake!
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Lol. That is true. What is funny is that I like British accents and Japanese ones too.
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So what do you guys plan to do with the Japanese you learn?
I want to live there.
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