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Pipe dream ? Umm... Let be honest here. Humans are creatures of desires are we not ? Genetics engineering, money Catgirls, money. If there a market for it, it will be made. Also there nothing that says catgirls can't be robots with a self-aware IA.


Yeah buddy keep telling yourself that if we try to engineer catgirls its gonna work. You should set up a catgirl engineering institute.

That being said... and I cant believe im fucking arguing this.
Owning a robot with a self aware AI would still be wrong.


You know we all ready clone animals right ? Also are you not aware that we all ready have the technology to modify the human genome. For example scientist have giving rat and other animals albinism. And they clearly say they can add and remove any gene they want. The only reason has not been done to humans is because of the law. And that can easily change any moment.

That not going to stop people from doing it. Money.

Owning a robot with a self aware AI would still be wrong


Do you really have reason why is not going to happen? Because I am yet to hear your reason why is not possible ? The only reason why is not happen yet is because the law prohibits humans genome modification. The other day scientist were talking about changing the law and making arguments about it. And when the law changes what is allow and is not. Companies are gonna go for any kind of modification that can make them money.


1. There is a huge difference between making animals albino and fucking messing with the genome to to specifically grow cat ears. Like thousands of miles. Secondly your literally proposing we go all designer babies and give give babies cat ears whether they want to or not.

2. Your literally fucking talking about genetically engineering catgirls so you can fuck them. The moment someone tries to defend this as ethical I will vomit.

3. You do realize the Money needed to mess with the genomes is literlly in the billions of dollars. Governments are the only people who can pay for this research. Sure big institutes can help out but thats entirely second to governments. Whether you like it or not you dont have enough Money to genetically engineer catgirls.


To answer first question. I more or less aware of what designer babies are but I could't care less about that topic. I meant fully grown humans BAKA. Just because you are adult does't mean your gene can't be modify.

Second question. BAKA. I think I never say it have to be sexual or any thing going in that direction. I just want catgirls, noting more or less. sights... Why do people assume always the worst.

3 question. You are more or less right here. But regardless of the group once there money there, it will get funds. All they need is incentive to give funds.


1. No you cant. Not possible at all.

2. I assume that because the majority of stuff Ive seen about catgirls is people wanting to have sex with them. Sorry if I implied something that wasnt there. But you do have to admit theres an undeniable sexual element to photo you posted.


3. Yes but the group of people who want to create catgirls will probably never have the funds to make catgirls.

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KarenAraragi wrote:


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... How are catgirls going to make companies money?


Well people like owning unique thing.


I'd fault your statement if I weren't a hardcore conspiracy theorist.
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Install a libertarian dictatorship as the world government.



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Isnt that an oxymoron. Im pretty sure most libertarians I know would not take to kindly to a dictatorship.


This is where things get really, really weird: yes. A libertarian dictatorship is possible. You see, there are those who argue that the institution of self-ownership, in order to be truly realised, necessitates that it be possible to transfer one's self-ownership to another. These people will argue that the non-aggression principle demands only that such a transfer of self-ownership be voluntary, and that it does not forbid transferring one's self-ownership to another outright. This is the rationale applied by such people to justify slavery in a libertarian society so long as it is "voluntary", and it doesn't take much of a stretch of either the argument or one's imagination to apply such reasoning to societies and populations.

Imagine a society in which someone offers low-cost rental agreements, employment contracts, and insurance plans which have a rather long period between renewals and a clause which states that you're the property of your employer, landlord, and insurer (who are, by coincidence, either all the same person or a small group of people in collusion with one another) until the time is up. Oh, and you can't leave without permission, and there's no exit clause for the contract. You're stuck if you sign. That's kosher to such libertarians, and would have the essential political character of a dictatorship since the local hegemony would be built around a single person or a very small oligarchy which can exercise its will with no practically detectable mechanism for political opposition. Other libertarians would cry that self-ownership cannot be transferred, and that the sort I've described are just slavers trying to wrap their sickening deeds in pretty language about freedom.


Well that would be a libertarian government in the same way that Russia was a communist one.
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Yes it can be done. The other day scientist give a rat a disease by activate genes and deactivate gene in the animal. Adding gene to all ready alive animal after it was born too. And that not the only way to do. Also the implants option is available you know.

Well humans like to sexuality everything. I mean they all ready making sex robots and knowing humans, somebody is going to make them self-aware too.

Also that the tip of the iceberg. For example,

Harvard scientists reverse the ageing process in mice – now for humans
Harvard scientists were surprised that they saw a dramatic reversal, not just a slowing down, of the ageing in mice. Now they believe they might be able to regenerate human organs
Scientists claim to be a step closer to reversing the ageing process after rejuvenating worn out organs in elderly mice. The experimental treatment developed by researchers at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Harvard Medical School, turned weak and feeble old mice into healthy animals by regenerating their aged bodies.

The surprise recovery of the animals has raised hopes among scientists that it may be possible to achieve a similar feat in humans – or at least to slow down the ageing process.

An anti-ageing therapy could have a dramatic impact on public health by reducing the burden of age-related health problems, such as dementia, stroke and heart disease, and prolonging the quality of life for an increasingly aged population.

"What we saw in these animals was not a slowing down or stabilisation of the ageing process. We saw a dramatic reversal – and that was unexpected," said Ronald DePinho, who led the study, which was published in the journal Nature.

"This could lead to strategies that enhance the regenerative potential of organs as individuals age and so increase their quality of life. Whether it serves to increase longevity is a question we are not yet in a position to answer."

The ageing process is poorly understood, but scientists know it is caused by many factors. Highly reactive particles called free radicals are made naturally in the body and cause damage to cells, while smoking, ultraviolet light and other environmental factors contribute to ageing.

The Harvard group focused on a process called telomere shortening. Most cells in the body contain 23 pairs of chromosomes, which carry our DNA. At the ends of each chromosome is a protective cap called a telomere. Each time a cell divides, the telomeres are snipped shorter, until eventually they stop working and the cell dies or goes into a suspended state called "senescence". The process is behind much of the wear and tear associated with ageing.

At Harvard, they bred genetically manipulated mice that lacked an enzyme called telomerase that stops telomeres getting shorter. Without the enzyme, the mice aged prematurely and suffered ailments, including a poor sense of smell, smaller brain size, infertility and damaged intestines and spleens. But when DePinho gave the mice injections to reactivate the enzyme, it repaired the damaged tissues and reversed the signs of ageing.

"These were severely aged animals, but after a month of treatment they showed a substantial restoration, including the growth of new neurons in their brains," said DePinho.

Repeating the trick in humans will be more difficult. Mice make telomerase throughout their lives, but the enzyme is switched off in adult humans, an evolutionary compromise that stops cells growing out of control and turning into cancer. Raising levels of telomerase in people might slow the ageing process, but it makes the risk of cancer soar.

DePinho said the treatment might be safe in humans if it were given periodically and only to younger people who do not have tiny clumps of cancer cells already living, unnoticed, in their bodies.

David Kipling, who studies ageing at Cardiff University, said: "The goal for human tissue 'rejuvenation' would be to remove senescent cells, or else compensate for the deleterious effects they have on tissues and organs. Although this is a fascinating study, it must be remembered that mice are not little men, particularly with regard to their telomeres, and it remains unclear whether a similar telomerase reactivation in adult humans would lead to the removal of senescent cells."

Lynne Cox, a biochemist at Oxford University, said the study was "extremely important" and "provides proof of principle that short-term treatment to restore telomerase in adults already showing age-related tissue degeneration can rejuvenate aged tissues and restore physiological function."

DePinho said none of Harvard's mice developed cancer after the treatment. The team is now investigating whether it extends the lifespan of mice or enables them to live healthier lives into old age.

Tom Kirkwood, director of the Institute for Ageing and Health at Newcastle University, said: "The key question is what might this mean for human therapies against age-related diseases? While there is some evidence that telomere erosion contributes to age-associated human pathology, it is surely not the only, or even dominant, cause, as it appears to be in mice engineered to lack telomerase. Furthermore, there is the ever-present anxiety that telomerase reactivation is a hallmark of most human cancers."
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/nov/28/scientists-reverse-ageing-mice-humans
And this too.

Scientists genetically modify human embryos for the first time: Controversial technique could lead to designer babies
Chinese scientists tried to tweak gene responsible for a blood disorder
Leading researchers have called for a halt on such research until the implications and safety of the technology can be properly explored
They warn germ line modification is 'dangerous and ethically unacceptable'
Some fear the technique could be misused to create 'designer families'


Chinese scientists have admitted to changing the genes of human embryos for the first time.
The announcement confirms rumors that some researchers have been conducting ethically questionable genetic experiments.
Some scientists have already reacted with horror at the idea, for fear it could be misused to allow parents to 'select' the genes they will pass on to their grandchildren.



Chinese scientists have admitted to changing the genes of human embryos, like the one above, for the first time in history. The announcement confirms rumors that some researchers have been conducting ethically questionable experiments
However, others argue that the technology could also be used to rid families of devastating inherited diseases like cystic fibrosis or certain cancers.
Researchers at Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzho have today published their research in the journal Protein & Cell, according to a report in Nature.
In the paper, researchers led by Junjiu Huang, attempted to downplay concerns by using 'non-viable' embryos, which can't develop into babies.
The team tried to tweak the gene responsible for β-thalassaemia, a potentially deadly blood disorder, using a germ line editing technique known as CRISPR/Cas9.
But the researchers involved said that their results revealed 'serious obstacles' in using the technique on human embryos.
CRISPR technology precisely changes target parts of genetic code.
Unlike other gene-silencing tools, the CRISPR system targets the genome's source material and permanently turns off genes at the DNA level.
The DNA cut – known as a double strand break – closely mimics the kinds of mutations that occur naturally, for instance after chronic sun exposure.
But unlike UV rays that can result in genetic alterations, the CRISPR system causes a mutation at a precise location in the genome.
When cellular machinery repairs the DNA break, it removes a small snip of DNA. In this way, researchers can precisely turn off specific genes in the genome.


HOW WAS IT DONE?
The team tried to tweak the gene responsible for β-thalassaemia, a potentially deadly blood disorder, using a germ line editing technique known as CRISPR/Cas9.
CRISPR technology precisely changes target parts of genetic code.
Unlike other gene-silencing tools, the CRISPR system targets the genome's source material and permanently turns off genes at the DNA level.
The DNA cut – known as a double strand break – closely mimics the kinds of mutations that occur naturally, for instance after chronic sun exposure.
But unlike UV rays that can result in genetic alterations, the CRISPR system causes a mutation at a precise location in the genome.
When cellular machinery repairs the DNA break, it removes a small snip of DNA. In this way, researchers can precisely turn off specific genes in the genome.
The team studied the ability of the CRISPR/Cas9 system to edit the gene called HBB responsible for β-thalassaemia

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3051365/Scientists-tweak-genes-human-embryos-time-Controversial-technique-lead-designer-babies.html

If there money to be made, it will be create. The same with catgirls. The moment there money to be made, corporations will make it happen.
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Yes it can be done. The other day scientist give a rat a disease by activate genes and deactivate gene in the animal. Adding gene to all ready alive animal after it was born too. And that not the only way to do. Also the implants option is available you know.

Well humans like to sexuality everything. I mean they all ready making sex robots and knowing humans, somebody is going to make them self-aware too.

Also that the tip of the iceberg. For example,

Harvard scientists reverse the ageing process in mice – now for humans
Harvard scientists were surprised that they saw a dramatic reversal, not just a slowing down, of the ageing in mice. Now they believe they might be able to regenerate human organs
Scientists claim to be a step closer to reversing the ageing process after rejuvenating worn out organs in elderly mice. The experimental treatment developed by researchers at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, Harvard Medical School, turned weak and feeble old mice into healthy animals by regenerating their aged bodies.

The surprise recovery of the animals has raised hopes among scientists that it may be possible to achieve a similar feat in humans – or at least to slow down the ageing process.

An anti-ageing therapy could have a dramatic impact on public health by reducing the burden of age-related health problems, such as dementia, stroke and heart disease, and prolonging the quality of life for an increasingly aged population.

"What we saw in these animals was not a slowing down or stabilisation of the ageing process. We saw a dramatic reversal – and that was unexpected," said Ronald DePinho, who led the study, which was published in the journal Nature.

"This could lead to strategies that enhance the regenerative potential of organs as individuals age and so increase their quality of life. Whether it serves to increase longevity is a question we are not yet in a position to answer."

The ageing process is poorly understood, but scientists know it is caused by many factors. Highly reactive particles called free radicals are made naturally in the body and cause damage to cells, while smoking, ultraviolet light and other environmental factors contribute to ageing.

The Harvard group focused on a process called telomere shortening. Most cells in the body contain 23 pairs of chromosomes, which carry our DNA. At the ends of each chromosome is a protective cap called a telomere. Each time a cell divides, the telomeres are snipped shorter, until eventually they stop working and the cell dies or goes into a suspended state called "senescence". The process is behind much of the wear and tear associated with ageing.

At Harvard, they bred genetically manipulated mice that lacked an enzyme called telomerase that stops telomeres getting shorter. Without the enzyme, the mice aged prematurely and suffered ailments, including a poor sense of smell, smaller brain size, infertility and damaged intestines and spleens. But when DePinho gave the mice injections to reactivate the enzyme, it repaired the damaged tissues and reversed the signs of ageing.

"These were severely aged animals, but after a month of treatment they showed a substantial restoration, including the growth of new neurons in their brains," said DePinho.

Repeating the trick in humans will be more difficult. Mice make telomerase throughout their lives, but the enzyme is switched off in adult humans, an evolutionary compromise that stops cells growing out of control and turning into cancer. Raising levels of telomerase in people might slow the ageing process, but it makes the risk of cancer soar.

DePinho said the treatment might be safe in humans if it were given periodically and only to younger people who do not have tiny clumps of cancer cells already living, unnoticed, in their bodies.

David Kipling, who studies ageing at Cardiff University, said: "The goal for human tissue 'rejuvenation' would be to remove senescent cells, or else compensate for the deleterious effects they have on tissues and organs. Although this is a fascinating study, it must be remembered that mice are not little men, particularly with regard to their telomeres, and it remains unclear whether a similar telomerase reactivation in adult humans would lead to the removal of senescent cells."

Lynne Cox, a biochemist at Oxford University, said the study was "extremely important" and "provides proof of principle that short-term treatment to restore telomerase in adults already showing age-related tissue degeneration can rejuvenate aged tissues and restore physiological function."

DePinho said none of Harvard's mice developed cancer after the treatment. The team is now investigating whether it extends the lifespan of mice or enables them to live healthier lives into old age.

Tom Kirkwood, director of the Institute for Ageing and Health at Newcastle University, said: "The key question is what might this mean for human therapies against age-related diseases? While there is some evidence that telomere erosion contributes to age-associated human pathology, it is surely not the only, or even dominant, cause, as it appears to be in mice engineered to lack telomerase. Furthermore, there is the ever-present anxiety that telomerase reactivation is a hallmark of most human cancers."
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/nov/28/scientists-reverse-ageing-mice-humans
And this too.

Scientists genetically modify human embryos for the first time: Controversial technique could lead to designer babies
Chinese scientists tried to tweak gene responsible for a blood disorder
Leading researchers have called for a halt on such research until the implications and safety of the technology can be properly explored
They warn germ line modification is 'dangerous and ethically unacceptable'
Some fear the technique could be misused to create 'designer families'


Chinese scientists have admitted to changing the genes of human embryos for the first time.
The announcement confirms rumors that some researchers have been conducting ethically questionable genetic experiments.
Some scientists have already reacted with horror at the idea, for fear it could be misused to allow parents to 'select' the genes they will pass on to their grandchildren.



Chinese scientists have admitted to changing the genes of human embryos, like the one above, for the first time in history. The announcement confirms rumors that some researchers have been conducting ethically questionable experiments
However, others argue that the technology could also be used to rid families of devastating inherited diseases like cystic fibrosis or certain cancers.
Researchers at Sun Yat-sen University in Guangzho have today published their research in the journal Protein & Cell, according to a report in Nature.
In the paper, researchers led by Junjiu Huang, attempted to downplay concerns by using 'non-viable' embryos, which can't develop into babies.
The team tried to tweak the gene responsible for β-thalassaemia, a potentially deadly blood disorder, using a germ line editing technique known as CRISPR/Cas9.
But the researchers involved said that their results revealed 'serious obstacles' in using the technique on human embryos.
CRISPR technology precisely changes target parts of genetic code.
Unlike other gene-silencing tools, the CRISPR system targets the genome's source material and permanently turns off genes at the DNA level.
The DNA cut – known as a double strand break – closely mimics the kinds of mutations that occur naturally, for instance after chronic sun exposure.
But unlike UV rays that can result in genetic alterations, the CRISPR system causes a mutation at a precise location in the genome.
When cellular machinery repairs the DNA break, it removes a small snip of DNA. In this way, researchers can precisely turn off specific genes in the genome.


HOW WAS IT DONE?
The team tried to tweak the gene responsible for β-thalassaemia, a potentially deadly blood disorder, using a germ line editing technique known as CRISPR/Cas9.
CRISPR technology precisely changes target parts of genetic code.
Unlike other gene-silencing tools, the CRISPR system targets the genome's source material and permanently turns off genes at the DNA level.
The DNA cut – known as a double strand break – closely mimics the kinds of mutations that occur naturally, for instance after chronic sun exposure.
But unlike UV rays that can result in genetic alterations, the CRISPR system causes a mutation at a precise location in the genome.
When cellular machinery repairs the DNA break, it removes a small snip of DNA. In this way, researchers can precisely turn off specific genes in the genome.
The team studied the ability of the CRISPR/Cas9 system to edit the gene called HBB responsible for β-thalassaemia

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3051365/Scientists-tweak-genes-human-embryos-time-Controversial-technique-lead-designer-babies.html

If there money to be made, it will be create. The same with catgirls. The moment there money to be made, corporations will make it happen.


Just a heads up daily mail isnt a good source. But Guardian pretty legit. I understand we have the chance of growing back our old body parts with this which is pretty exciting but like I said there is a large difference between cat ears and organs.

The day we make self aware sex bots I will be horrified.
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I would do something that would piss off a large percentage of people on here. But I've pissed them all off already on a different forum so I don't care.
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What I saying is that the possibility is there and can be done. Yes it will be difficult but with enough time and money it will happen. Also I know right now is a dream but 25 years or more it could happen. Then again somebody could make a breakthrough in genetics and all sort of body genetics become real.
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What I saying is that the possibility is there and can be done. Yes it will be difficult but with enough time and money it will happen. Also I know right now is a dream but 25 years or more it could happen. Then again somebody could make a breakthrough in genetics and all sort of body genetics become real.


Nah id give it at least 50
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I will embark on my campaign to conquer Mars!

I don't want to conquer the world honestly, too much responsibility. I suppose if I did I'd think about how I could make the world a more prosperous and progressive place for everyone... Unfortunately, I predict that the realization of that goal may force me to do some unethical things. Competition is necessary to motivate individuals into accomplishing extraordinary feats... however it also causes individuals to try to obtain monopolies and maintain the status quo afterwards causing the inhibition of progress. I'd have to put in a system that prevents people from becoming super rich, which of course would provoke attempts on my life... You see, it's no fun trying to be a benevolent ruler.
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KarenAraragi wrote:



What I saying is that the possibility is there and can be done. Yes it will be difficult but with enough time and money it will happen. Also I know right now is a dream but 25 years or more it could happen. Then again somebody could make a breakthrough in genetics and all sort of body genetics become real.


Nah id give it at least 50


That way I say a breakthrough in genetics. Otherwise is going to be a long ass time.
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Well that would be a libertarian government in the same way that Russia was a communist one.


Most libertarians would agree with you, right or left. I was simply pointing out that the perspective exists within libertarianism.
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I think I'll finally have Japan make ash 11 (which will automatically start tremors in the earth for some reason) so won't ever have any of this:


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easy, 1st I would get seattle a basketball team, 2nd I would get the best game makers to make SAO but without the whole you know "negative side" and 3rd bring back bleach, 4th make sure catgirls never get created ever lord no
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I'll force valve into making Portal 3 or Making the AmuSphere and not nerver gear!! Oh and games for it too
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easy, 1st I would get seattle a basketball team, 2nd I would get the best game makers to make SAO but without the whole you know "negative side" and 3rd bring back bleach, 4th make sure catgirls never get created ever lord no


And them you get assassinated by trying to prevent the greatest creation that are catgirls.
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