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idk i noticed a lot of characters are a really light tan but when it comes to girl anime characters most are really pale probably because in there characters they aren't into much sports or outside activities some are real light tan tho i have a lot of examples like characters from special A a lot of sports anime have light tan anime characters
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I understand what you are saying but why don't they look Japanese. its just something no one really talks about


What would "looking Japanese" even mean to you?

Surely you aren't suggesting that characters have perversely slanted eyes and yellow skin, like you used to see in the old, racist post-WWII Warner Bros cartoons.

So, unless you're just trolling, you need to be specific. Why do you think that anime characters "look white"? What does it mean--to you--to "look white" as opposed to "looking Japanese"?

Also, why do you believe that Japanese people aren't "white"? What does it mean--to you--to be "white"?
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If you read manga with great art (in which they certainly look Japanese), you can really see how they get transformed into the more cartoony designs (bigger eyes etc) and lose some of the more Japanese, well more realistically human! - features as a result.

To be fair though, in things like DBZ, the skin colours really are quite peachy, I think. I am slightly curious if that is with the Western market in mind.
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mnmike wrote:


deadscreen wrote:

I understand what you are saying but why don't they look Japanese. its just something no one really talks about


What would "looking Japanese" even mean to you?

Surely you aren't suggesting that characters have perversely slanted eyes and yellow skin, like you used to see in the old, racist post-WWII Warner Bros cartoons.

So, unless you're just trolling, you need to be specific. Why do you think that anime characters "look white"? What does it mean--to you--to "look white" as opposed to "looking Japanese"?

Also, why do you believe that Japanese people aren't "white"? What does it mean--to you--to be "white"?


I think youre taking it a bit too far. all I meant was its so obvious for decades that Japanese artists use white skinned characters in their art. ive never understood it. and when I say they don't look Japanese, they don't look Japanese. don't make me have to point that out. im not racist im actually Hispanic. from texas. where the funimation hq are
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If you read manga with great art (in which they certainly look Japanese), you can really see how they get transformed into the more cartoony designs (bigger eyes etc) and lose some of the more Japanese, well more realistically human! - features as a result.

To be fair though, in things like DBZ, the skin colours really are quite peachy, I think. I am slightly curious if that is with the Western market in mind.


ive never read a manga so I guess youre right. not just dbz there are countless other anime with characters having white skin. im a fan of anime and its just something ive never understood even as a kid
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Sometimes it can be confusing when the character is suppose to be from the States they look the same except the voice actors speak in broken English to show they are westerners and English is first language and Japanese is language they are studying
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deadscreen wrote:


mnmike wrote:


deadscreen wrote:

I understand what you are saying but why don't they look Japanese. its just something no one really talks about


What would "looking Japanese" even mean to you?

Surely you aren't suggesting that characters have perversely slanted eyes and yellow skin, like you used to see in the old, racist post-WWII Warner Bros cartoons.

So, unless you're just trolling, you need to be specific. Why do you think that anime characters "look white"? What does it mean--to you--to "look white" as opposed to "looking Japanese"?

Also, why do you believe that Japanese people aren't "white"? What does it mean--to you--to be "white"?


I think youre taking it a bit too far. all I meant was its so obvious for decades that Japanese artists use white skinned characters in their art. ive never understood it. and when I say they don't look Japanese, they don't look Japanese. don't make me have to point that out. im not racist im actually Hispanic. from texas. where the funimation hq are


I wasn't trying to accuse you of racism, merely trying to get you to examine what you mean by "white skin".

Because most anime characters don't actually have pure white skin. They have off-white skin, usually with peach, tan, yellow, or grey tones. If you disagree, post a picture of an anime character with actual "white" skin.

I would argue that you associate those skin tones with people of European dissent, and therefore those characters don't look "Japanese" to you. On the other hand, if you were Japanese, however, you would probably associate those skin tones with being Japanese.

I've known immigrants from Ethiopia who recoil at being called black--because, in their minds, their skin color is "red", whereas they associate being "black" with being from central or southern Africa. That bias shows up in art work--people from East Africa tend to draw themselves as "red". In the same way, both Japanese and Europeans think of themselves as "white" (or close to it). We tend to draw ourselves that way, and when we see cartoons of people with off-white skin, we associate those skin-tones with ourselves.

For example, The Simpsons have actual yellow skin--chances are good, however, you think of them as being of European dissent, even though their skin colors look nothing like real European skin colors. (If you saw a person with that skin tone in real life, you would assume that they had a liver disease--whatever their ethnicity was.)

That's why I asked the questions I did, because we all (that is, humans) view the world through the lens of our cultural biases.
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This conversation reminds me of an old joke, I first heard in the movie What About Bob!?

A psychiatrist shows a man a series of ink blots. "What does this remind you of"

"Sex", the man answered.
"And this one?"
"Sex"
"This one?"
"Sex."

After a while the psychiatrist stopped: "You seem to be obsessed with sex".
The man answered "Hey, you're the one showing me all the dirty pictures!"
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mnmike wrote:

This conversation reminds me of an old joke, I first heard in the movie What About Bob!?

A psychiatrist shows a man a series of ink blots. "What does this remind you of"

"Sex", the man answered.
"And this one?"
"Sex"
"This one?"
"Sex."

After a while the psychiatrist stopped: "You seem to be obsessed with sex".
The man answered "Hey, you're the one showing me all the dirty pictures!"


Ha.
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mnmike wrote:


deadscreen wrote:


mnmike wrote:


deadscreen wrote:

I understand what you are saying but why don't they look Japanese. its just something no one really talks about


What would "looking Japanese" even mean to you?

Surely you aren't suggesting that characters have perversely slanted eyes and yellow skin, like you used to see in the old, racist post-WWII Warner Bros cartoons.

So, unless you're just trolling, you need to be specific. Why do you think that anime characters "look white"? What does it mean--to you--to "look white" as opposed to "looking Japanese"?

Also, why do you believe that Japanese people aren't "white"? What does it mean--to you--to be "white"?


I think youre taking it a bit too far. all I meant was its so obvious for decades that Japanese artists use white skinned characters in their art. ive never understood it. and when I say they don't look Japanese, they don't look Japanese. don't make me have to point that out. im not racist im actually Hispanic. from texas. where the funimation hq are


I wasn't trying to accuse you of racism, merely trying to get you to examine what you mean by "white skin".

Because most anime characters don't actually have pure white skin. They have off-white skin, usually with peach, tan, yellow, or grey tones. If you disagree, post a picture of an anime character with actual "white" skin.

I would argue that you associate those skin tones with people of European dissent, and therefore those characters don't look "Japanese" to you. On the other hand, if you were Japanese, however, you would probably associate those skin tones with being Japanese.

I've known immigrants from Ethiopia who recoil at being called black--because, in their minds, their skin color is "red", whereas they associate being "black" with being from central or southern Africa. That bias shows up in art work--people from East Africa tend to draw themselves as "red". In the same way, both Japanese and Europeans think of themselves as "white" (or close to it). We tend to draw ourselves that way, and when we see cartoons of people with off-white skin, we associate those skin-tones with ourselves.

For example, The Simpsons have actual yellow skin--chances are good, however, you think of them as being of European dissent, even though their skin colors look nothing like real European skin colors. (If you saw a person with that skin tone in real life, you would assume that they had a liver disease--whatever their ethnicity was.)

That's why I asked the questions I did, because we all (that is, humans) view the world through the lens of our cultural biases.


I didn't mean totally white skin but I think you know what I meant. and I hear what youre saying. its just the light skin thing is weird. I know there are light skinned Japanese out there but even they don't look like the mc from Food Wars or characters from Bleach. especially if the hair is any other color than black. even Ash from Pokémon doesn't look Japanese and I hate that cartoon
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coz it looks kawaii with shiro color ><
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coz it looks kawaii with shiro color ><
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Tanabe and his B.O. from Ping Pong Club.

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What actual explicitly "White" (Caucasian) characters usually look like in Anime.

If they were trying to draw their characters as white, the picture above is how they would do it because those are the features (the face shape and features and hairiness at least) that Japanese associate as being indicative of someone who is Caucasian.



Japanese are drawn with no distinguishing features because it's unnecessary as that's the default setting when no specific stereotypical distinguishing traits are present. That's also the same reason you assume they are drawing them as white, because your view of default is of a white American
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We have so many of theses types of threads.
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