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http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-investigating-package-filled-with-cash-dropped-off-at-door-of-slain-family/2015/05/20/a100af9e-ff07-11e4-8b6c-0dcce21e223d_story.html?tid=trending_strip_4



http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/crime/police-search-for-suspect-in-savopoulos-slayings/2015/05/21/3d707c0c-ffa7-11e4-833c-a2de05b6b2a4_story.html?tid=sm_fb

If you read the articles above, do you think the death penalty is enough for criminals like this? To me it seems not harsh enough to get life or "humanely" executed after torturing an entire family, including a 10 year old kid. I know the system makes mistakes but, if there's circumstantial evidence of a horrible crime like this should we just put them away?

Crimes like this against innocent families and people, I can't explain how frustrated these make me knowing that the criminals in these cases get a better treatment than the victims. If it were up to me, people like the suspect in this case, would be tortured beyond what I would care to discuss. To me, criminals that carry out these kinds of acts shouldn't even be recognized as a human anymore and should have all their human rights dropped. Then we can do whatever we want to them until they die.

That's my opinion on the matter and I'm want to know everyone else's take on crimes like this. Is Life Locked Up/ Humane Execution enough? Or should there be more punishment for criminals like this?
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I do think the death penalty is sometimes not enough for the most horrible and inhumane offenders.

However, I think there still can be proportional punishment by law without resorting to outright torture. I'm personally okay if the worst offenders feel pain on their way to death but I still don't think the pain should be intentionally caused. It should be a by-product of the execution and nothing much more than that. This is why I don't have a strong stance against firing squads, hangings, etc. Something inside me tells me that there is a certain point beyond which mere death is not adequate punishment, but I recognize that this voice of vengeance is probably best left unheeded.

The executioner probably wants nothing to do with torture, anyway. If anything, it is the victims and survivors who should have a say when it comes to how the criminal should be put to death.
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die the way they killed.
is that not true justice?
if not, what is?
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sentenced to being a guinea pig till death.
torture is unnecessary and this way they could do at least some good.
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i don't care
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You can always dig em up and kill them again if it fits your cultural view of punishment is necessary. The Death penalty should just be abolished.
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pirththee wrote:
The Death penalty should just be abolished.

^ This.
Posted 5/22/15
And here we go again....
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I could bring up the energy to reply here since it meant I could call some people here a bunch of retards.

Some people won't change. I wont. If I enjoyed killing people I guarantee you I wouldn't stop. Wanna see your daughter in the victim list?
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Not for the death penalty.
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byClear wrote:

Crimes like this against innocent families and people, I can't explain how frustrated these make me knowing that the criminals in these cases get a better treatment than the victims. If it were up to me, people like the suspect in this case, would be tortured beyond what I would care to discuss. To me, criminals that carry out these kinds of acts shouldn't even be recognized as a human anymore and should have all their human rights dropped. Then we can do whatever we want to them until they die.

That's my opinion on the matter and I'm want to know everyone else's take on crimes like this. Is Life Locked Up/ Humane Execution enough? Or should there be more punishment for criminals like this?


That's called revenge, it's not a punishment nor is death a punishment, it's simply getting rid of who you don't like. Call the death penalty what it is, not a punishment. A punishment is what you give to people who you want to improve their behavior, making someone go through aimless suffering is just a plain old crime.
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If it was up to me these types of people already prove they were worthless in regular society by first choosing to commit a crime. While I support capital punishment 100% because we are forced to do it humanly. The only way I would change my stance is if we allowed scientist to tests out diseases and cures on these criminals. Make there worthless lives mean something. OF course that would never happen in the states and that's a shame because imagine how many diseases may be cured if we did this to people who lives had no positive value to society.
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Oh, sure. The state should totally have the power to declare someone a subhuman. That's worked out beautifully in the past.
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Not read the thread, but my .02 cents worth. 1) What more can you do then execute a person? 2) the big problem is that the death penalty is more a threat than actual punishment. If I could wave a magic wand than I would A) have a complete review of every death penalty case. If there are questions/concerns over fairness, evidence than commute the sentence to life in prison without parole, but open to appeal. B ) if the case passes the review than streamline the appeals process and begin to carry out the sentence. Otherwise it's a joke.
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J-POP187 wrote:

If it was up to me these types of people already prove they were worthless in regular society by first choosing to commit a crime. While I support capital punishment 100% because we are forced to do it humanly. The only way I would change my stance is if we allowed scientist to tests out diseases and cures on these criminals. Make there worthless lives mean something. OF course that would never happen in the states and that's a shame because imagine how many diseases may be cured if we did this to people who lives had no positive value to society.


That is actually ingenious. We can't have the crime undone, so might as well punish them while getting some benefit for society out of it. It really is a shame, I'm betting not many other people here would agree with this rather effective approach.
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