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Post Reply The fat acceptance movement is the only movement that can be defeated by actual movement.
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It hardly seems controversial to suggest that a lower rate of obesity would reduce the risk of cardiovascular disease and diabetes....
People saw fat before they saw someone's medical history..... I wasn't targeting at your comment specifically but the vast majority of the comments speak for itself...and from such a vague OP: people see fat people as a hindrance.
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Honestly most ppl who say they're concern for a fat persons health are full of sh!t tbh
They just don't like how big they are. Not their health.
I had this baby fat I couldn't get rid of for about 5-7 years until I turned 14. I was very active, more active than now actually. Yet people were still telling me I need to get in shape & asking if I was eating healthy at the time. People don't now anymore.
I mostly walk & stretch now but I'm still not exactly in shape. Only reason I lose or maintain my weight is because I don't eat much. My stomach fills up pretty quickly. (like, probably 6 inch subway sandwhich could fill me up. i also drink lots of water so that helps.)
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"fat" (or just having a stomach) =/= out of shape and/or unhealthy.
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A lot of broken records in here going on about the health side of things. On that note, I have my own rules of thumb.

Brocolli is the only vegetable.

Cardio isn't working if you aren't sweating. Do at least 30 minutes or more cardio of some form a day.

Drink nothing but plain water; I do so from two interchangeable A&W mugs (the biggest cups I could find).

Get a minimum of 8 hours of sleep.

Things not to do include the following:

Eating at MacDonalds under any circumstances whatsoever.

Eating fast food of any other sort more than 2-3 times a week, and never, assuming you don't do cardio.

Drinking coca cola, or any other soft drinks.

Drinking coffee, tea, or any other energy drinks (refer to "go to sleep").

Eating sweets.

Eating junk food (not to be confused with sweets or fast food).

I wouldn't call this a diet plan, per se. More like a general list of things I do and don't do in order to increase my lifespan by several decades, potentially. I also enjoy not feeling like I'm going to roll over dead; despite being emaciated my whole life, I still felt lethargic and ill in my earlier years do to not following any of the above rules. Hell, my nosebleeds stopped entirely when I started drinking enough water each day.

That being said, it's always more about the stuff you don't do than most of the things you should do.
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I'm overweight (not by all that much) but I don't want myself nor others to accept that about me. I want to get more fit. I don't consider being overweight something that should be accepted as it seriously does affect health and costs for insurance for everyone. I heard on the radio today about people complaining about a company displaying a slim model with wording "Are you beach body ready?" or something to that effect and that people were insulted by it. I honestly have no problem with it at all. It's a protein shake company and they are just advertising in their own way. If you're overweight and are offended, we all do have the ability to lose that weight, it only takes initiative and perseverance.
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I'm overweight (not by all that much) but I don't want myself nor others to accept that about me. I want to get more fit. I don't consider being overweight something that should be accepted as it seriously does affect health and costs for insurance for everyone. I heard on the radio today about people complaining about a company displaying a slim model with wording "Are you beach body ready?" or something to that effect and that people were insulted by it. I honestly have no problem with it at all. It's a protein shake company and they are just advertising in their own way. If you're overweight and are offended, we all do have the ability to lose that weight, it only takes initiative and perseverance.


It's considered offending because even if some people tried, they can't actually get that body type. That's why. Everyone has a different body type. Not everyone can have a super model body, it's literally impossible if you don't have the genes for them.
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Have you guys noticed that 95% of the Fat Acceptance Movement is women?
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Have you guys noticed that 95% of the Fat Acceptance Movement is women?


Is that a bad thing? Is that why you can't take it seriously? Because it's mostly women?
It's not a surprising thing either. Because it effects them more.
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I'm a huge hater of the day acceptance crap...hehe, that works both ways.

Fat acceptance started as pointing out the difference between being honest about fat but at the same time coming away from the cruelty and bullying. But the main point was being happy to be yourself and self respect. Over the years is turned in to some rallying cry against fitness and every honest attempt to point out "hey, your heart problems are going to skyrocket" is an outright invite to PC rioting.

Case in point: I'm fat. A tiny bit is genetics, good part is health issues and some is just that cake is delicious. But 90% is what I can control in my life to impact or outright change things. Nothing is going to kill me from someone mentioning my weight to me-I know I'm fat. And my body is my own even if not ideal. But my weight loss and occasional gain is just physical and I'm still me on the inside. The vast majority of people who bring up my weight or weight issues or talk fitness don't do it to be mean but because they worry and care. Plus, I eat far healthier than others often realise and I often have conversations about nutrition with people.

Yeah, you get people who are outright bullies or cruel, that's going to happen. But meh. Life goes on. And the fat acceptance thing only puts fatties, especially us women, on a political pedestal that the majority of us don't want. The sad side is how it's been hijacked over the last few years.

It's one thing to be a jackhole and bully. It's another to honestly face the reality of health impact of being fat.
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Have you guys noticed that 95% of the Fat Acceptance Movement is women?


Yeeep. I think it's a mixture of pweshuss widdle unique snowflake syndrome and this fake ideal that we women are victims of media and society-ironic because the majority of the media and social aspect regarding women's sense of beauty comes from us women ourselves.
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Discrimination is voluntary. Size and weight discrimination is a big thing and it's mainly targeting fat people. It IS a legitimate concern to whine about. People don't see it as a real issue because it's easy to turn it into a punch line of a crappy joke.
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Avvocato wrote:

Have you guys noticed that 95% of the Fat Acceptance Movement is women?


Is that a bad thing? Is that why you can't take it seriously? Because it's mostly women?
It's not a surprising thing either. Because it effects them more.




Yeah, I guess it tends to affect women more. A dude will usually be honest about the fact that he's a fat fuck because he really likes food.
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Discrimination is voluntary. Size and weight discrimination is a big thing and it's mainly targeting fat people. It IS a legitimate concern to whine about. People don't see it as a real issue because it's easy to turn it into a punch line of a crappy joke.


The real truth is that people just don't care that others are being discriminated against, as long as it's not directed their way. They don't - or won't - see how such stereotypes harm both fat and thin people, and contribute to an environment where a recent study of teen girls reveals they'd rather be blinded or lose a limb instead of becoming fat.
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Discrimination is voluntary. Size and weight discrimination is a big thing and it's mainly targeting fat people. It IS a legitimate concern to whine about. People don't see it as a real issue because it's easy to turn it into a punch line of a crappy joke.


Yeah it's a concern....because fat is not good: it's unhealthy, point blank. It's not very ascetic but meh, that's a whole different thing.
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anzn wrote:


Avvocato wrote:

Have you guys noticed that 95% of the Fat Acceptance Movement is women?


Is that a bad thing? Is that why you can't take it seriously? Because it's mostly women?
It's not a surprising thing either. Because it effects them more.




Yeah, I guess it tends to affect women more. A dude will usually be honest about the fact that he's a fat fuck because he really likes food.


You know why that is though? Because of the beauty standards on women. and those beauty standards more often than not, determine their worth.
Fat guys can at least "make up" for being fat & still be taken seriously.
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FlyinDumpling wrote:

Discrimination is voluntary. Size and weight discrimination is a big thing and it's mainly targeting fat people. It IS a legitimate concern to whine about. People don't see it as a real issue because it's easy to turn it into a punch line of a crappy joke.


The real truth is that people just don't care that others are being discriminated against, as long as it's not directed their way. They don't - or won't - see how such stereotypes harm both fat and thin people, and contribute to an environment where a recent study of teen girls reveals they'd rather be blinded or lose a limb instead of becoming fat.


Good point. It seems the other way too because I've heard people bullied because they're skinny. It's considered fine to poke fun at skinny girls or namecall them. But do that to a fat chick and people flip out.

Most of her wife issue comes down to not being a jackhole to other people and having an understanding, to a point, for their feelings. And at the same time someone honestly worried about your health,no matter what your shape, isn't a reason to go ballistic.

It's really just common decency.
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