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I hate censorship of any kind, no matter who is behind it.
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I don't think I have ever seen a sjw be against gay men and women but rather show support. I think it might be homophobic people or the company is scared of people showing the gay undertones. This isn't the first time a game has done this anyway.



I have seen a sjw get MAD at that. So I highly doubt swj are behind this. Get mad at the company, not them.
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and here i thought america had moved on from the sailor moon dub days.....
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marklebid wrote:

Why is everyone overlooking the most obvious answer: the company is trying to market to the widest audience possible, and in their professional opinions believed that would be the way to go.

They probably have lots of statistics about straight male demographics that suggested to them a traditional harem "dating sim" would do better in the U.S.




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Heres the deal despite what ones location says about translations teams personal politics(not much) its a business thing. They didnt feel it would appeal to an american audience so they cut it out. Blaming this on SJW is a pretty big stretch.
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maxgale wrote:

So, Crunchy, it appears our good friends the Morality Police, the Censorial Crusaders, the Social Justice Warrior horde, has now decided that anime and lesbians are "problematic":



This makes me curious, Max, about what your personal definition of SJW is because its probably a bit broader than mine or some of the other commenters' versions.
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maxgale wrote:

So, Crunchy, it appears our good friends the Morality Police, the Censorial Crusaders, the Social Justice Warrior horde, has now decided that anime and lesbians are "problematic":



This makes me curious, Max, about what your personal definition of SJW is because its probably a bit broader than mine or some of the other commenters' versions.


An authoritarian who seeks to have reality mirror the one they have invented, and who uses their ideology as a way to obfuscate their privilege to either seek further power or out of a sense of guilt, in the process demanding all others become disenfranchised. Generally manifests as extreme liberal ideology.
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maxgale wrote:


BlazingRagnarok wrote:


maxgale wrote:

So, Crunchy, it appears our good friends the Morality Police, the Censorial Crusaders, the Social Justice Warrior horde, has now decided that anime and lesbians are "problematic":



This makes me curious, Max, about what your personal definition of SJW is because its probably a bit broader than mine or some of the other commenters' versions.


An authoritarian who seeks to have reality mirror the one they have invented, and who uses their ideology as a way to obfuscate their privilege to either seek further power or out of a sense of guilt, in the process demanding all others become disenfranchised. Generally manifests as extreme liberal ideology.


WTF? Im generally a bit confused how you came to this conclusion.
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Well first, we should ask lesbians what they think of this.

Second, who are the game's target groups?
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megahobbit wrote:


maxgale wrote:

An authoritarian who seeks to have reality mirror the one they have invented, and who uses their ideology as a way to obfuscate their privilege to either seek further power or out of a sense of guilt, in the process demanding all others become disenfranchised. Generally manifests as extreme liberal ideology.


WTF? Im generally a bit confused how you came to this conclusion.



Facts are not on their side,which is why their rhetoric is often an appeal to emotion, not logic: also explains why appeals are made to "be on the right side of history", a tacit acknowledgment that reality does not mirror their claims, so an appeal to authority must be made to some vague sense of what reality should be , the "future." (Explicitly this is what the Italian Futurist movement was based around, as well as Marxism itself, which posited a future uprising among laborers).

Often these individuals are the more privileged ones in their society, and thus wealth is the least deciding factor in constituting whatever imagined institution of oppression haunts society, due to either guilt or by calculated design. As such, seeking outward blame for their guilt and / or to ensure that no one can refer to reality as it is, that they are the most privileged , "justice" becomes a measure of perceived oppression. And now that the legitimate privilege they have is "invalid," now that facts don't matter as much as what can be believed to be true, then it is one show trial after another, disenfranchising one person, group, culture, industry, or alternative belief system (religion, other political parties) until dissent becomes "harassment."

Already this is codified as law in Canada and the UK (for example, their speech laws are revolting) and elsewhere, already this is seen in campus culture in the States.

And in this example, having female relationships in the game that are "male fantasies" must be expunged, regardless of if straight women or lesbian women or gay men desire them, if the fans want them, or of the intent of the original creators.
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Censor my Love Live, I'll censor your life.
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maxgale wrote:

Facts are not on their side,which is why their rhetoric is often an appeal to emotion, not logic: also explains why appeals are made to "be on the right side of history", a tacit acknowledgment that reality does not mirror their claims, so an appeal to authority must be made to some vague sense of what reality should be , the "future." (Explicitly this is what the Italian Futurist movement was based around, as well as Marxism itself, which posited a future uprising among laborers).

Often these individuals are the more privileged ones in their society, and thus wealth is the least deciding factor in constituting whatever imagined institution of oppression haunts society, due to either guilt or by calculated design. As such, seeking outward blame for their guilt and / or to ensure that no one can refer to reality as it is, that they are the most privileged , "justice" becomes a measure of perceived oppression. And now that the legitimate privilege they have is "invalid," now that facts don't matter as much as what can be believed to be true, then it is one show trial after another, disenfranchising one person, group, culture, industry, or alternative belief system (religion, other political parties) until dissent becomes "harassment."

Already this is codified as law in Canada and the UK (for example, their speech laws are revolting) and elsewhere, already this is seen in campus culture in the States.

And in this example, having female relationships in the game that are "male fantasies" must be expunged, regardless of if straight women or lesbian women or gay men desire them, if the fans want them, or of the intent of the original creators.


Wait. I think ive seen this theory espoused before in an essay someone posted on 4chan. I just cant remember the name of it.
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Well I'll be the first official right wing fundamentalist to their in my two cents and say ridiculous to this. Would it comes in to my house or would I support it directly? No. But people who want to, why not?

Actually, from a marketing point of view, why not introduce both? Then you'll have people able to choose which they prefer, more profit to the distributer and greater encouragement to the creative team.
Posted 5/26/15

capt_bunny wrote:

I don't think I have ever seen a sjw be against gay men and women but rather show support. I think it might be homophobic people or the company is scared of people showing the gay undertones. This isn't the first time a game has done this anyway.



I have seen a sjw get MAD at that. So I highly doubt swj are behind this. Get mad at the company, not them.


it's rly dumb.
you'd think they'd realize by now how the US constantly censors things from the original Japanese version or changes it up completely. They have been been doing that ever since they first brought over japanese video games & dubbed anime.
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It's most likely censored to make it all-ages. Anything sexual isn't appropriate for children.

Groping breasts is sexual so that had to be taken out.

Changing the one thing from both girls to scandalous between a boy and girl is wrong. Children don't need to know about any type of romantic love.

Nozomi saying, “You don't want to? If you don't then it'll just be me and Elicchi, the two of us all lovey-dovey heading home.” Again romantic love should be kept away from children.

This game is rated 4+ and we need to keep our children pure and innocent. We need to stop teen pregnancy and censoring video games for these children is one way to keep them pure and innocent.

Also people are too sensitive on the whole censoring thing. Get over it!

Posted 5/26/15 , edited 5/26/15
Meh, it's a free to play game, just don't download it if it's bad(hint: most of them are). I imagine at least on iOS, Apple's notorious and seemingly arbitrary policies probably had a lot to do with it. They probably didn't want to risk getting denied for sexual content.

Also, considering it's super niche and driven by in-app purchases it has at least the potential to be super slimy with obnoxious mechanics design to get you to spend money.
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