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I think the kid needs a mental evaluation before anything else.

If he's a genuine threat to the society and the state, he needs to be treated like an adult because the damage that would be caused and the threat level is no different just because he is a minor.
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I won't look it up. But to me the easiest solution would be to get rid of the "dark web" so they can't find this stuff.


This is extremely off topic to the kid... But it goes into detail of the deep web.

Easy to say almost impossible to do. First of all to access the deep web you need to be connected to the onion router or use software like tor, the onion router and tor's main functionality is to hide your IP on an extreme level that not even a VPN (virtual private network) or Proxy can do. The main reason people use tor and the onion router is 'cause they want to hide their IP and to make online activists able to help citizens who live in countries where freedom of speech isn't a thing.

And the deep web started on tor and the onion router as a place where big corporations dumped their files due to how secure and hard it was to track. This meant that it would almost be impossible for corporate secrets to get leaked and if it did then they could pin down who leaked it easy... However criminals started to use it soon after corporations started to use it, and now it's basiclly just a shit hole filled whit corporate files and illegal stuff.

And the problem whit the deep web is that you never know where something is stores due to the fact that everything is hosted throught the onion router, this means you never know where you should look if you want to stop something. And even if someone stops something on the deep web then 5 new versions of the same thing will pop up again. The only way to shut down the onion router and deep web is if we destroy every device connected to it. And let's be honest, that's not really easy to do...



Even with TOR it's not impossible to track someone down, just far far harder to do so. And while tons of bad stuff does happen it's mostly for the free exchange of honest information to those who are in censored area. Sometimes it's a treatsie on militia tactics to a guy in China, occasionally uncensored Kurosawa movies in Saudi Arabia and even banned modern fiction in Iran.

You can blame whatever crime you like on a knife but it's the person in whose hands it is that determines if it's used to rob a guy or defend a guy against being robbed. Yes, there's going to be a dark side of humanity,certainky. But there going to be a better side at play as well.

Onion/Tor is just a tool, it's the person behind it that determines things.
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Posted 5/27/15 , edited 5/27/15
What the heck...
Who on earth is the Judge that is clearly against the Criminology principle that "The Minor is conscious of what he is doing, yet still malleable from external agents in term of penal responsibility and such minor shall not imputed with charge of crimes"

I don't know what the heck their legislation dictates. The one that should be imputed by administrative negligence of the minor must be their parent; the child did not factory that Videogame console by his own, nor got the free time to get in contact with real terrorist.
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Posted 5/27/15 , edited 5/27/15

eclair-lumiere wrote:



I won't look it up. But to me the easiest solution would be to get rid of the "dark web" so they can't find this stuff.


I take issue with this kind of thinking. It is well meaning but keep in mind the dark web usually refers (at least to how some politicians want to define it) to any site that doesn't appear in search results. By eliminating these you are essentially blocking freedom of legal and legitimate hosts. The nature of the web is such that any blocking attempts for illegal operations will be worked around by those with ill will.

It is very similar to how implementing always online DRM in software only hurts legal users while the pirates remove the DRM and distribute. Enforcement of such widespread blocking will similarly be futile while inhibiting freedom.

Bombs require very little knowledge and can be made with materials easily found on Amazon; anyone determined to make one can still easily do so. Perhaps data driven prediction would be best to automatically flag anyone found digging around for the specific information to that. The NSA has attempted to do this by their mass collection of data, but it has proven ineffective as they sort through it all after collection. They need more specificity in collection practices to actually serve their purpose.

This all of course brings up another topic entirely... Would you sacrifice your privacy for a likely 1% increase in security?
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Two years for the plans? Damn, I think I might be in real big trouble since I think I have rough blueprints to Fatman and Little Boy somewhere.
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I hope this is just a phase....the parents need a serious evaluation as well
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I don't know about the Austrian (don't know why I wrote UK) but in the U.S people who end up in prison end up back in prison within 3 - 5 years (68% and 77% respectively). At very least I think someone should try to figure out why he want join and make bombs. Jailing him for two years is a stop gap at best and may actually reinforce his criminal proclivities.


As for bomb making info, probably the most well known source, the Anarchist Cookbook has been available online since the BBS days. It's not like information is secret, the author William Powell, reportedly did all his research at public libraries.
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Posted 5/27/15
That's why Xbox is better.
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Strange kid...
Posted 5/28/15

IngramIV wrote:

What the heck...
Who on earth is the Judge that is clearly against the Criminology principle that "The Minor is conscious of what he is doing, yet still malleable from external agents in term of penal responsibility and such minor shall not imputed with charge of crimes"

I don't know what the heck their legislation dictates. The one that should be imputed by administrative negligence of the minor must be their parent; the child did not factory that Videogame console by his own, nor got the free time to get in contact with real terrorist.


That a very unfair and unreasonable thing to say. There no way you can know what your child is doing a all times. No matter how well you rise your child, sometimes they are just bad and no amount of parenting will change that.

You do the crime you must be prepare to face the music. If we change the kid to adult you will probably be saying something else entirely.

The kid should get check in the head to see if this a mental problem or he just a normal person who decide to try to do something wrong.

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Posted 5/28/15
Austrian prison is not the same as American prison. He will probably get the help he needs while incarcerated.
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anikevin wrote:

That's why Xbox is better.


Stop being such a fanboy, things like this can happen anywhere and everywhere. Remember, he downloaded this from some website. Therefore meaning you can download the files on your console, PC, phone, tablet and everything else whit a web browser installed
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severticas wrote:


TheOmegaForce70941 wrote:


severticas wrote:

i think he could have even found it on the surface web. it's him contacting the terrorists that set off the alarms. depending on him downloadng the manual first.

i bet it's all these violent games that psychologically fuck up their mind.


Bing, bing, wrong, wrong. That's something the media wants you to belicae, but they never have anything to back themselvs up whit. If you look up how many bought all the violent games out there then you'll learn that they've sold millions upon millions of copies. And if you look up the amount of killed people in a game that the number will be up towards billions. So therefore games does not make you psychologically fucked up, if you're mental then you were that before you started playing your first game


And arguing that millions are sold doesn't prove me wrong.


It's clear that you've not played many games based on your piss poor arguments.

Yes it does, who is it that claims that video games makes you into a violent psychopath? Media, whitout any scientific studies to back them up whit. Meanwhile there's been countless of studies done on video games and not a single one have proven to lead to any kind of effect on the person playing the game. If anything then it's been proven that video games allow you to escape from your daily life and unleash your anger in the game instead of on another person.

The only bad scientific study that's been done thus far is one that proves violent video games might lead to bad memory NOT psychological stuff
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Posted 5/28/15 , edited 5/28/15

DanteVSTheWorld wrote:

I say that's a good thing, especially if he went that far. It's so sad how someone that young can be deluded, living in a free country, with the qualities of technology and taking everything for granted and for what, so he can live out his dream of living in the shit-hole middle east?

Maybe he does need psychological help, what about his parents? I mean someone is telling him this stuff.


Don't call it as shit hole, because not everyone in the middle east is a terrorist.

The middle east has great places with great people like every other country.
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Posted 5/28/15

Alsaer wrote:

Not everyone in the middle east is a terrorist. So, please don't call it a shit hole.

There are parts of the middle east that are really awesome with great people.


Nobody said any such things 'cause we all know that there are great places down there
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