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I'll respond to your above comment later, but I just want to talk about Muv Luv for a second here. Do you think the KS campaign will get the 18+ versions or no? Maybe both like Grisaia?

I don't know what you guys mean " that " scene, but whatever it is I would like to experience it. I'll be reading through Muv Luv and Unlimited hopefully soon, but I'd hate for anything to be cut out if I do end up playing Alternative legally. You know me.

Even though I'm playing the fansub version of it, I'd still pay for the games to be supportive.


They have said on Twitter that they intend to release the 17+ version first, then an uncut version later. Plans could change, but that seems to be their intention.

The scene we are talking about is a particularly gory image that occurs, but saying more would spoil things. It might be toned down if they intend it for release outside of the US on Steam, but I don't know for sure.
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Ive finished F/SN and saya no uta.

Most visual novels i played are just build-up and none really capture my interest.
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Anyways, Subahibi, considered by many people who can read Japanese, to be considered to be a "god game", or "kamige". That is, its so fundamentally amazing and mind blowing, that its herald as a masterpiece in fiction, is getting a translation.

Now, someone here explains what to expect and what not to expect from it :

https://www.reddit.com/r/visualnovels/comments/3cdppe/what_to_expect_and_not_to_expect_in_subahibi/

I can't wait.

According to one commenter :

"SubaHibi's a work that requires a great deal of effort in fully appreciating. The plot which it does have is intricately, and excellently told; but I don't think that SubaHibi's a work which is good for its plot (although it has a good plot). It's remembered more for what it tries to convey (which isn't so obvious). Subahibi's not difficult because of its allusions (as these allusions are explained in a fairly simplistic, straightforward way in most instances); it's more difficult in that it has a lot of parts, none of which, are tied to an overtly-obvious goal. It's open-ended, and less straightforward in this way (it's not to say that Subahibi's some artsy-abstract rorschach test though; as mentioned, its contents are very coherent and explainable, it's more so synthesizing its straightforward pieces into some intelligible, less straightforward whole).
I personally think that SubaHibi's probably one of the best visual novels out there. It's a work which makes use of the visual novel medium in itself to tell a fulfilling, complex story (Subahibi wouldn't work with any other medium). It's a work with strong fundamentals (excellent characterization, plot, and aesthetics [music + art]). But more than that, it's a memorable work that'll leave the reader thinking (via its themes, what it tries to convey, and whether or not it's succeeded at doing so)."
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Looking forward to Key's new VN, Harmonia:

https://vndb.org/v16510

Sounds like it has a lot of potential, I love settings like the one it has.


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Umineko is coming to Steam via Mangagamer!!!!!! YAAAA!!!!!
http://mangagamer.org/announcements/


Personally, I've been reading through Killer Queen; almost done with it (it's fairly short). It's decent if you like Battle Royale-type stories with a twist. I also played through two of the routes in Sunrider Academy. The story is pretty good, if a bit simplistic, and the art is a step above Love in Space's previous work. Unfortunately, the gameplay is either super simplistic on easy difficulties, or frustratingly random on harder difficulties, so it makes it really tedious to play through.

It doesn't really count as a VN (it's more of a puzzle game with dating-sim elements), but I also played through Huniepop. It's worthwhile if you like match-3 puzzle games and sexy pictures of anime-style girls, though it has essentially no story. Well, okay, it has a story, but that story is basically "bang as many girls as you can"...which doesn't really count as a story IMO.


Killer Queen seems interesting. It's a short it seems like so I may even get it. Too bad it's not out legally though (or at least the 18+ version isn't).

Sunrider Academy is out on Denpasoft and they have the 18+ version, but they said it's not completely finished yet or something? So only a few routes are out?

HuniePop seems like I'd like it, but it seems like there isn't enough H-content in it so I'm not sure if I'd want to go through all the objectives if there isn't enough reward I'd rather just look up images of the H-scenes online.
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Anyways, Subahibi, considered by many people who can read Japanese, to be considered to be a "god game", or "kamige". That is, its so fundamentally amazing and mind blowing, that its herald as a masterpiece in fiction, is getting a translation.


In theory, the translation should be out in a couple weeks. The date 20 July is apparently important in the game, so the TL group is trying to get the finished version up on that day.

I'm actually impressed they got it finished so quickly; it's apparently a pretty tough story to translate for the reasons you quoted.


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Killer Queen seems interesting. It's a short it seems like so I may even get it. Too bad it's not out legally though (or at least the 18+ version isn't).


It's a bit unfortunate; thankfully I...acquired a copy, so I could read it. From what Lemnisca has said, they mostly did it so that they could translate the sequel, which is supposed to be much better. Of course, now they're working on Root Double, so who knows when they'll get to it.



Sunrider Academy is out on Denpasoft and they have the 18+ version, but they said it's not completely finished yet or something? So only a few routes are out?


It gets confusing, but Sunrider Academy is finished, per the creator's own site. The sequel to the game it's a spin-off of, Sunrider, is still in-progress. Just for reference if you are curious, the Steam version is censored, but the creator has a patch you can install onto the Steam version to include the H-scenes. I'll also say that the H-scenes are actually pretty good.



HuniePop seems like I'd like it, but it seems like there isn't enough H-content in it so I'm not sure if I'd want to go through all the objectives if there isn't enough reward I'd rather just look up images of the H-scenes online.


Basically, the only H-content in the game is a couple of CGs per character. The art is incredibly well done, at least in my opinion, but there really isn't a lot of it. There are no "sex scenes", though; you play a mini-game where you match orbs to get your lady friend off (accompanied by moaning and panting), then, when you win, you see a picture of her post-coitus.

I like match-3 puzzle games, and it only cost $15. The goofy dialogue and sexy pictures were enough to make it worth it in my book, but I sincerely hope the art team works on something more substantial in the future.
Posted 7/8/15 , edited 7/8/15

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HuniePop seems like I'd like it, but it seems like there isn't enough H-content in it so I'm not sure if I'd want to go through all the objectives if there isn't enough reward I'd rather just look up images of the H-scenes online.


As someone who has played through the entirety of HuniePop (for some reason):

The good thing about HuniePop is that it has a complete set of English voices and the voice acting is pretty great. HuniePop has no substance, like at all. But it is fun and the dialogue writing can even be clever at times. And when it is not it's mostly just so ridiculous that you can't help laughing. It also panders to a great deal of fetishes and the lewd art is enjoyable to say the least. Just put it on if you feel like spending half an hour on stupid shit and doing some rather easy but fun puzzle games. I'd say that it's worth the money.
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farispie wrote:

Anyways, Subahibi, considered by many people who can read Japanese, to be considered to be a "god game", or "kamige". That is, its so fundamentally amazing and mind blowing, that its herald as a masterpiece in fiction, is getting a translation.


In theory, the translation should be out in a couple weeks. The date 20 July is apparently important in the game, so the TL group is trying to get the finished version up on that day.

I'm actually impressed they got it finished so quickly; it's apparently a pretty tough story to translate for the reasons you quoted.


LoomyTheBrew wrote:

Killer Queen seems interesting. It's a short it seems like so I may even get it. Too bad it's not out legally though (or at least the 18+ version isn't).


It's a bit unfortunate; thankfully I...acquired a copy, so I could read it. From what Lemnisca has said, they mostly did it so that they could translate the sequel, which is supposed to be much better. Of course, now they're working on Root Double, so who knows when they'll get to it.



Sunrider Academy is out on Denpasoft and they have the 18+ version, but they said it's not completely finished yet or something? So only a few routes are out?


It gets confusing, but Sunrider Academy is finished, per the creator's own site. The sequel to the game it's a spin-off of, Sunrider, is still in-progress. Just for reference if you are curious, the Steam version is censored, but the creator has a patch you can install onto the Steam version to include the H-scenes. I'll also say that the H-scenes are actually pretty good.



HuniePop seems like I'd like it, but it seems like there isn't enough H-content in it so I'm not sure if I'd want to go through all the objectives if there isn't enough reward I'd rather just look up images of the H-scenes online.


Basically, the only H-content in the game is a couple of CGs per character. The art is incredibly well done, at least in my opinion, but there really isn't a lot of it. There are no "sex scenes", though; you play a mini-game where you match orbs to get your lady friend off (accompanied by moaning and panting), then, when you win, you see a picture of her post-coitus.

I like match-3 puzzle games, and it only cost $15. The goofy dialogue and sexy pictures were enough to make it worth it in my book, but I sincerely hope the art team works on something more substantial in the future.


I actually heard that the prose itself in Subahibi is easy to translate, since it uses simple langauage, but the hard part is conveying the symbolic meaning of some things. As opposed to other kamige like Full Metal Muramasa that uses ancient and flowery language.
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imaginarycreatures wrote:


farispie wrote:

Anyways, Subahibi, considered by many people who can read Japanese, to be considered to be a "god game", or "kamige". That is, its so fundamentally amazing and mind blowing, that its herald as a masterpiece in fiction, is getting a translation.


In theory, the translation should be out in a couple weeks. The date 20 July is apparently important in the game, so the TL group is trying to get the finished version up on that day.

I'm actually impressed they got it finished so quickly; it's apparently a pretty tough story to translate for the reasons you quoted.


I actually heard that the prose itself in Subahibi is easy to translate, since it uses simple langauage, but the hard part is conveying the symbolic meaning of some things. As opposed to other kamige like Full Metal Muramasa that uses ancient and flowery language.


I think it has more to do with the style of writing that the writer uses. The impression I got was that it's kinda like a translation of "The Hobbit", where the words themselves and their meanings aren't complex, but the book is written to specifically evoke the concept of a tale told as an oral tradition. Translating it incorrectly would lose the style, even if the meaning was intact.

In other words, the text itself isn't complicated, but the subtext would be lost without an effective translation.

I'm interested in the game, though it sounds pretty brutal. Generally, I try to avoid things like ryona, futa, yaoi rape, bestiality, and necrophilia. I suppose if the story's as good as people say, I guess I'll have to deal with it. The actual story seems really up my alley, and I'm going to assume that all that is in there for a reason.
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farispie wrote:


imaginarycreatures wrote:


farispie wrote:

Anyways, Subahibi, considered by many people who can read Japanese, to be considered to be a "god game", or "kamige". That is, its so fundamentally amazing and mind blowing, that its herald as a masterpiece in fiction, is getting a translation.


In theory, the translation should be out in a couple weeks. The date 20 July is apparently important in the game, so the TL group is trying to get the finished version up on that day.

I'm actually impressed they got it finished so quickly; it's apparently a pretty tough story to translate for the reasons you quoted.


I actually heard that the prose itself in Subahibi is easy to translate, since it uses simple langauage, but the hard part is conveying the symbolic meaning of some things. As opposed to other kamige like Full Metal Muramasa that uses ancient and flowery language.


I think it has more to do with the style of writing that the writer uses. The impression I got was that it's kinda like a translation of "The Hobbit", where the words themselves and their meanings aren't complex, but the book is written to specifically evoke the concept of a tale told as an oral tradition. Translating it incorrectly would lose the style, even if the meaning was intact.

In other words, the text itself isn't complicated, but the subtext would be lost without an effective translation.

I'm interested in the game, though it sounds pretty brutal. Generally, I try to avoid things like ryona, futa, yaoi rape, bestiality, and necrophilia. I suppose if the story's as good as people say, I guess I'll have to deal with it. The actual story seems really up my alley, and I'm going to assume that all that is in there for a reason.


Well apparently its more disturbing than Saya no Uta and MLA, so that should be fun. I am still interested it in heavily.
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Well apparently its more disturbing than Saya no Uta and MLA, so that should be fun. I am still interested it in heavily.


The same. I'm pretty into denpa stories. The stereotypical gory horror story doesn't do much for me, but this type of psychological horror is something in my wheelhouse.

Unrelated: I read through eden* this last weekend. It's another short one (took me all of about 5 hours to read), but it's incredibly well done. Minori's works usually have impressive visuals, but this was even above ef in my opinion. I liked it; it's a fairly low key sort of light sci-fi story, but the synopsis for the story also pretty much tells you how it's going to end. For that matter, the subtitle of the story gives you a big hint. It isn't really the type of story that has a surprise ending, though, so it doesn't really matter.

eden* is on Steam, and it's pretty cheap ($20). It's also available from Mangagamer (for $25, but it's currently on sale for about $19). The game itself has no sex, so the Steam version is complete; the MG version does have "bonus content", which are just some sex scenes tacked on in the "Extras" option in the menu, and one character doesn't have a swimsuit on when she's bathing. They aren't really canonical, and most of them don't even make any sense in the context of the story, so they're basically just there for fan service. It is a Minori title, so be warned that mosaics are still present, even in the U.S. version.
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farispie wrote:

Well apparently its more disturbing than Saya no Uta and MLA, so that should be fun. I am still interested it in heavily.


The same. I'm pretty into denpa stories. The stereotypical gory horror story doesn't do much for me, but this type of psychological horror is something in my wheelhouse.

Unrelated: I read through eden* this last weekend. It's another short one (took me all of about 5 hours to read), but it's incredibly well done. Minori's works usually have impressive visuals, but this was even above ef in my opinion. I liked it; it's a fairly low key sort of light sci-fi story, but the synopsis for the story also pretty much tells you how it's going to end. For that matter, the subtitle of the story gives you a big hint. It isn't really the type of story that has a surprise ending, though, so it doesn't really matter.

eden* is on Steam, and it's pretty cheap ($20). It's also available from Mangagamer (for $25, but it's currently on sale for about $19). The game itself has no sex, so the Steam version is complete; the MG version does have "bonus content", which are just some sex scenes tacked on in the "Extras" option in the menu, and one character doesn't have a swimsuit on when she's bathing. They aren't really canonical, and most of them don't even make any sense in the context of the story, so they're basically just there for fan service. It is a Minori title, so be warned that mosaics are still present, even in the U.S. version.


I just finished eden* two days ago! I thought what was most impressive was the visuals, but I did like the story, it made me a bit somber at the end.

Anyways I can't wait for the denpa hype train~, herkz needs to hurry up with editing !
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i have been playing through several, most of which are H-games, but i have gotten Steins;Gate recently. i think the big difference is that animes can only follow 1 plotline and the ending is only 1 ending, with the visual novels you have the opportunity to see other story arcs and see a complete and more detailed story.

ie. bible black anime is a very short 6ish ep series, but the game last a LONG time and there are 2 main story arcs in the game i have seen so far, whereas the anime only follows one of the paths.
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So the "Unrated Version" of Grisaia no Kajitsu finally got its official release this week. I read through it when it was originally translated, but I'm gonna go through it again, seeing as I already committed a not insignificant sum of money to the project.

Two things I can note at this point:

1) Yep, that common route sure is long

and

2) That common route is also really funny

Haven't noticed too many changes to the translation so far, outside of maybe a bit of additional editing. Still, anyone who hasn't read it and likes this sort of thing should really pick it up. It's quite lengthy, so the $40 isn't a bad value at all. I think the H-Scenes are uncensored, though it will probably be a while before I get to them, so I don't know if it's a de-mosaic job or re-draws, not that it really matters too much.
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So the "Unrated Version" of Grisaia no Kajitsu finally got its official release this week. I read through it when it was originally translated, but I'm gonna go through it again, seeing as I already committed a not insignificant sum of money to the project.

Two things I can note at this point:

1) Yep, that common route sure is long

and

2) That common route is also really funny

Haven't noticed too many changes to the translation so far, outside of maybe a bit of additional editing. Still, anyone who hasn't read it and likes this sort of thing should really pick it up. It's quite lengthy, so the $40 isn't a bad value at all. I think the H-Scenes are uncensored, though it will probably be a while before I get to them, so I don't know if it's a de-mosaic job or re-draws, not that it really matters too much.


Oh awesome! I'm definitely going to buy it then! And let me know when you get to an H-scene.
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What do I think the medium offers that others don't? Simply put, choice. Interactivity. The ability to guide the story as one sees fit. Now, obviously the options presented won't always coincide with what one desires, but it's a far sight better than relatively passive media such as ordinary anime offer. It's this in which I think School Days truly shines, because you're offered a full anime experience with near-total control of the main protagonist's decisions. More of that, if you will.
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