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Posted 5/29/15 , edited 5/29/15
And also on how to delve into a mind of stupidity! Read this short article on why this person never tips... it's quite unique.

Enjoy!

http://thoughtcatalog.com/nicole-mullen/2014/03/why-you-shouldnt-tip/
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Posted 5/29/15 , edited 5/30/15
I stopped reading it when the author said $2.37 was a living wage. Lmao. It's probably satire, but the guy is still trash.

I hope he doesn't reproduce.
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The article is a bad piece of satire. Read the whole thing, especially the part about the "waiting lobby" keeping the man down. Yea, it was a bad joke.
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I think tipping is a horrible system. It's been shown that people tip independently of the service they receive and it only serves to make eating out a little less pleasant and to destabilize the waiter's income. In many places, tipping isn't done - it's mainly done in the US, but for a long time even there tipping was seen as unacceptable

That said, I always tip, and I always tip well. The waiters aren't the ones who chose this system and they shouldn't have to suffer.

Whoever wrote that article was surely being satirical (but sucking at it)... I couldn't help but laugh a bit when they started ranting about how evil and greedy waiters are and how they make $600,000 a year.
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Lol is this not mostly shared for chief's/waiters/restaurant? so thats alot they need to cover.
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While the article clearly is a satire i do at least agree with the being trained part to tip.
In the end we the customers are expected to pay part of the wage of the service people in form of tips on top of what we payed for the actual service.
What if they would earn more money would we still need to tip them for doing nothing more than there job?
I worked a couple years in the service industry in a Hotel in Germany and not once did any of my colleges or i expect to get tipped.
Its a nice bonus but it can not and should not be a must.
I do not eat out a lot since i moved to America but the few times i did i never felt like i should tip here (my wife did anyways since she was brainwashed).
You want me to spend more money and just give it to you even tho you did nothing more than your job which you get paid to do than you better do it good.
don't serve from the wrong side, don't touch plates and glasses where you should not, pay attention to me ,i should never have to look for you to get a new drink, hold the wine bottle correctly when you pour it and all this small things.
Do that and you did a good job and if you do i am inclined to tip.

Getting a tip is a reward for doing more than just bring me the food and drinks it should not be part of your wage that should be covered by your boss i do pay him for the food and service after all.
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I don't tip because waiters get paid about the same as the chefs and almost never share the tips with the rest of the staff.
Tipping should be reserved for countries with lower minimum wages.
Posted 5/29/15 , edited 6/4/15
^ the article was satire but you both are assholes.

If you don't like to tip, make your own food and eat at home.
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Ssomething wrote:

^ the article was satire but you both are assholes.

If you don't like to tip, make your own food and eat at home.


I'm not an asshole.
Don't tell me how to spend money.
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:

I don't tip because waiters get paid about the same as the chefs and almost never share the tips with the rest of the staff.
Tipping should be reserved for countries with lower minimum wages.


Back when I waited tables I never received even remotely close to what the chef made. I seriously doubt this has changed at all.

When you walk into a restaurant in the United States, you are in a country with a lower minimum wage, at least for the wait staff. Currently it's at $2.13 per hour.

Technically, the restaurant is supposed to make up the difference if your pay + your tips don't add up to the normal minimum wage. It was my experience that some managers would report higher tips than we were actually getting when business was light, so they didn't have to pay us the difference.

Ever since I graduated from college and started making decent money, I've made it a point to find out the standard local tip percentage for the area (it tends to vary with the cost of living.) Where I live now, it's twenty percent, and I never tip a waitperson or a delivery person any less than that.
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Sir_jamesalot wrote:

I don't tip because waiters get paid about the same as the chefs and almost never share the tips with the rest of the staff.
Tipping should be reserved for countries with lower minimum wages.


Most chefs are paid normally like the rest of us. Waiters/waitresses are paid with $2.xx and tips. There's a large gap between what they make. In many restaurants a small portion of the tips waiters/waitresses make are divided up among people referred to as "food runners."

I know it's different everywhere else but the US though.
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ericthefred wrote:


Sir_jamesalot wrote:

I don't tip because waiters get paid about the same as the chefs and almost never share the tips with the rest of the staff.
Tipping should be reserved for countries with lower minimum wages.


Back when I waited tables I never received even remotely close to what the chef made. I seriously doubt this has changed at all.

When you walk into a restaurant in the United States, you are in a country with a lower minimum wage, at least for the wait staff. Currently it's at $2.13 per hour.

Technically, the restaurant is supposed to make up the difference if your pay + your tips don't add up to the normal minimum wage. It was my experience that some managers would report higher tips than we were actually getting when business was light, so they didn't have to pay us the difference.

Ever since I graduated from college and started making decent money, I've made it a point to find out the standard local tip percentage for the area (it tends to vary with the cost of living.) Where I live now, it's twenty percent, and I never tip a waitperson or a delivery person any less than that.


I understand things are different in USA than where I am, I don't tip because waiters in Aus get paid properly and I don't care that many still expect tips.
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Posted 5/29/15
By not tipping you are just being cheap. You don't tip to help pay their wage, you tip because they did a good job. I would be fine with them adding on 10-15% on the check automatically for the tip. You can then give more if you want or if everything was awful you can talk to the manager and get it back.
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Eh.. I use 15% as a baseline and go up/down from there based on performance.

I'm a generally easy-going guy, so if a waiter/waitress is polite and reasonably prompt about checking on the table periodically they can easily work their way up toward 20%. Very rarely I've had to deal with rude / absentee servers who manage to work their way below the baseline. I've never left nothing, and it's really damn rare that I do tip under 15%, but I did feel obliged to leave a server a single penny once because of how obnoxious they were. I'm sure they were having a crappy night for entirely legitimate reasons, but needless to say, it wasn't a restaurant I ever intended to patronize again after that.
Posted 5/29/15
I don't really go to many places where you would tip but when I do I tip very well unless the service was just horrendous. Give me basic service and you will get a decent tip. If you are rude or inattentive then sorry but you lose out on some of it if not all of it. I can't agree with it ever being added on to the check automatically though. I tip as well as I do because it is my choice. If it were being forced on me I probably wouldn't give anything beyond what the bill was if I went to that kind of place at all.
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