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Lately i've been watching some anime series that I believe have some deep rooted themes and its made me question some of my perspectives on life.

e.g Death Parade has me think a lot about my own personal views on certain subjects such as murder, infidelity, and revenge etc.

or Plastic memories, the ethical implications of androids

my questions to you peeps are:

1. are there any animes that have changed your world views? If so, why?

2. do you think animes that have such themes make them more enjoyable?

DISCUSS!! :

respectful convo though thx ^_^
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Trigun changed my worldview alot when I first watched it. Made me think alot about Pacifism.

Evangelion. I dont really know if It taught me anything but any deeper reading of it is hinged on philosophy.
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Nothing so far. The boobs and thongs are distracting.

Err... sex sells?



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Time of Eve covers part of the android issue better, but still doesn't go deep enough. Mainly, what would happen to displaced workers on a mass scale.



It does get me mixed feelings on the subject.
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onibrotonel wrote:

Nothing so far. The boobs and thongs are distracting.

Err... sex sells?





Man it was supposed to be a critic to the modern day girl Prada, but... you got a point.

Now for the original poster, watch any Patlabor movie or Jin Roh, Mnemosyne for a related theme.
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I don't think there have been any anime that have dramatically changed how I view the world, life, or a particular topic, but there are plenty of anime that have deep meanings in them that I enjoy(both the anime and the meanings).

I think that having these themes doesn't make the anime inherently more enjoyable, just like how having fanservice makes an anime inherently worse(or better, depending on what your view on that topic is). I do think it makes them more memorable, but also easier to mess up. Having deeper themes just offers a reason to watch an anime, just like dialogue, art, plot, etc. So while powerful meanings in anime can be a good thing, they don't automatically elevate the anime to a good level, nor do they always make anime more enjoyable.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that having deep themes is just another drawing point of an anime, but like any other drawing point it can be well or poorly executed, misplaced, or just plain bad. Though I guess that makes them more meaningful than some random harem anime, assuming the themes are actually important and delivered well.
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Puella Magi Madoka Magica has me constantly thinking about the laws of the universe and time. The way they explain everything seems so dark. Makes me feel like the root of all life is just some conspiracy or something.
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For me Code Geass for the end justifies the means and Gundam Wing "A war with no civility only gives rise to massacres." Treize

If you have to fight a war have some rules in place. For the most part I believe nations will abide by this unfortunately we see to many groups "terrorists, gangs" have no set rules.

Then Elfen Lied had a big impact on me to wait and see other people actions before judging them from only appearance.
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YES!

To me, ALOT of anime makes me question/relate to about myself, the world, etc.
I def agree on you on Death Parade.

1. are there any animes that have changed your world views? If so, why?
Too many to list tbh, but....

1.) One Piece : I started watching OP when I was in 1st grade in Japan, the day it started airing.
Idk if you've seen OP but as a kid, I LOVED OP because the fighting was the shit, it made me laugh, but it made me cry so hard.
I didn't think deeply about it until I came to America (when I was 11, 12 ish.)
I watched it over many many times from ep. 1 and I started to realize (as I got older) that OP is actually a reflection of what is going on in the world right now.
I love how Oda Eiichiro illustrates the relationship between citizens & the government, and all the secrets that's been hidden from the citizens (Like the Ohara incident.)
And how frugal some ppl are (like if the government says one thing, they believe it in a split second w/o any doubts.)
...I can go on for so long so I'll stop here.


2.)Black Lagoon : I'm sure I don't have to explain much about this show, but man... this show got so real. This show touched subjects that most ppl would hate to think about, etc...


2. do you think animes that have such themes make them more enjoyable?
100% YES. Not that anime always needs that but the ones that do definitely will influence me greatly.
Anime could mean so much than just drawings with dialogue and music, it's insane.
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fullmetal alchemist and fullmetal alchemist brotherhood changed my life, I used to think there was a way for me to get everything I want without working or needing other people you know like magic but the whole law of equivalent exchange changed that whole perspective, it helped me understand death better or at least form my own opinion on it, it also helped me to make sense of what and how things are done in this world and how someone or something no matter what has to pay a price, either directly or indirectly.
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kawaii_gangsta wrote:

Puella Magi Madoka Magica has me constantly thinking about the laws of the universe and time. The way they explain everything seems so dark. Makes me feel like the root of all life is just some conspiracy or something.


I feel you.
I love anime that goes beyond time & space.
I really appreciate anime when they touch the subject of beyond this world shit
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There are plenty of anime that have made me think much more philosophically about things. Recently, I've been rethinking my take on Ergo Proxy in light of some very insightful lectures I've found on YouTube given by both Colin McGinn and Noam Chomsky regarding the philosophy of the mind. I used to think the creators botched the ending of the series, but I'm now reconsidering it. I'll prolly have to watch it again to reach a firm conclusion. Very mild spoilers about this below, albeit lacking detail to the plot.



Evangelion is probably my most favorite anime precisely because of the near endless thought-provoking ideas it poses. That being said, discussing it here would be much too long, and quite frankly I'd prolly need to watch it again (7th time) before discussing it in detail.

Cowboy Bebop seems to me to be another great philosophical anime, but it probably has a more pragmatic way of going about it. The previous two animes really address their issues in very abstract metaphysical terms. Bebop though tends to pose questions much more in a social down-to-earth context like: how do people handle their pasts? What does it mean to have a past? And what does it mean regarding personal identity to handle one's own past in a certain way?

All these questions in Bebop seem to be about personal identity, but are posed in a thematic way that is contingent upon everyday social interaction. These problems aren't posed by talking statues with names of philosophers that most people don't know of, or by 14 year-old angst ridden teenagers. And for that, I think Bebop is probably the most relatable philosophical anime to all audiences of a variety of tastes.

But as to answer the questions:

1.) I wouldn't say they have changed my views, but rather that they make me think about my views more and perhaps revise them.

2.) I enjoy being challenged intellectually, so yes these anime do make it all the more enjoyable.
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yeah, elfin lied really made me think.
rin daugher of menesyne was a cool look at tech and how it evolves.
time of eve was great, the movie added more story but ended up leaving more questions.

edit: and kill la kill was a chilling reminder of the rise of nazi.
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Psycho Pass made me realize that even if our government is corrupt and somewhat idiotic, if someone took down the government our country would most likely fall into chaos and violence and then completely collapse. They may pull some shady stuff in the government but it's all to keep the society in line. Also, I'm starting to get worried as I see all this new technology that is going to start taking over our lives even more in the future.

There were a few other series but this was the first to come to my head.
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Rohzek wrote:

There are plenty of anime that have made me think much more philosophically about things. Recently, I've been rethinking my take on Ergo Proxy in light of some very insightful lectures I've found on YouTube given by both Colin McGinn and Noam Chomsky regarding the philosophy of the mind. I used to think the creators botched the ending of the series, but I'm now reconsidering it. I'll prolly have to watch it again to reach a firm conclusion. Very mild spoilers about this below, albeit lacking detail to the plot.



Evangelion is probably my most favorite anime precisely because of the near endless thought-provoking ideas it poses. That being said, discussing it here would be much too long, and quite frankly I'd prolly need to watch it again (7th time) before discussing it in detail.

Cowboy Bebop seems to me to be another great philosophical anime, but it probably has a more pragmatic way of going about it. The previous two animes really address their issues in very abstract metaphysical terms. Bebop though tends to pose questions much more in a social down-to-earth context like: how do people handle their pasts? What does it mean to have a past? And what does it mean regarding personal identity to handle one's own past in a certain way?

All these questions in Bebop seem to be about personal identity, but are posed in a thematic way that is contingent upon everyday social interaction. These problems aren't posed by talking statues with names of philosophers that most people don't know of, or by 14 year-old angst ridden teenagers. And for that, I think Bebop is probably the most relatable philosophical anime to all audiences of a variety of tastes.

But as to answer the questions:

1.) I wouldn't say they have changed my views, but rather that they make me think about my views more and perhaps revise them.

2.) I enjoy being challenged intellectually, so yes these anime do make it all the more enjoyable.




I need to watch Ergo Proxy again.
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